Scorpius Posted April 9, 2004 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Which countries are actually assisting US with war on Terrorism? Please list them, I'm very much interested. Unfortunately Canada is off this list. We Canadians should help, instead of hiding behind the US. We should at least send what remaining troops we have... There is a large painted poster on a wall in my city, Winnipeg, Manitoba, that says something like this: We stand with the United States of America. What hypocracy!!! It sure doesn't show on the War on Terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearfulone Posted April 11, 2004 #2 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Blue Scorpion, i commend you for the stance you have on Canada's involvement in the war on terror. Fortunately, the US does have the assistance of a large number of countries. While i don't recall all the countries and i wouldnt know where to get a list (although you could prolly run a search on google or yahoo)... these are some of the major ones: England, Spain (although not for much longer), Australia, Bulgaria, Japan, and Poland...there are many more, just cant seem to find the list. As far as i know...most of the former "eastern bloc" of europe have troops over in iraq...there are over 60 countries last i heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bleeding_heart> Posted April 11, 2004 #3 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) Sorry got to pick you up on one point the UK supports the war on terror. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as the whole. Theres a couple of lists here; (some of the info is fairly old but mostly accurate, should give you an idea) List Another List Edited April 11, 2004 by <bleeding_heart> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicPenguin Posted April 11, 2004 #4 Share Posted April 11, 2004 For some unknown reason we have UK = England in everybody's mind Anyway, if it is just war against terrorism (not Iraq), wouldn't all world governments are going to support it? A lot of governments have been fighting terrorists for quite a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpius Posted April 11, 2004 Author #5 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Thanks for the links, Bleeding Heart. The second link gave a more detailed account of each countries assistance on the War on Terrorism. The Canadian Forces did a fine job, especially being the first to offer Naval support on the War on Terrorism. I guess I was wrong to say that we Canadians did not help. "The United States began building the coalition on September 12, 2001, and there are currently 70 nations supporting the global war on terrorism. To date, 21 nations have deployed more than 16,000 troops to the U.S. Central Command’s region of responsibility. This coalition of the willing is working hard every day to defeat terrorism, wherever it may exist. " Source: United States Central Command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted April 11, 2004 #6 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) Here is a list I posted in another thread in this forum called Terrorists Win. United States 120,000 Britain 11,000 Albania 70 Australia 1,000 Azerbaijan 150 Bulgaria 470 Czech Rep. 92 Denmark 496 Dominican Rep. 300 ElSalvador 360 Estonia 55 Georgia 70 Honduras 370 Hungary 300 Italy 3,000 Japan 250 (750 on the way) Kazakhstan 25 Latvia 120 Lithuania 105 Macedonia 28 Moldova 25 Mongolia 180 Netherlands 1,100 NewZealand 60 Nicaragua 230 Norway 150 Philippines 95 (175 on the way) Poland 2,400 Romania 400 Singapore 200 Slovakia 69 (120 on the way) South Korea 675 (3,000 on the way) Spain 1,300 (may be pulled out soon) Thailand 443 (30 on the way) Ukraine 2,000 These are the quite current numbers of troops provided by all nations involved in Iraq. Gazz Edit: Added comments Al Qaeda made it clear in a recent memo that ALL of the nations listed above are targets for future attacks of terrorism. Maybe Canada has a reason to avoid being involved. I am not defending them or saying Canadians are cowards. Its just the reality of the world we live in. There are many nations re-thinking their involvment in Iraq. Spain for one has made it clear that they are soon going to pull out their troops from Iraq. After the bombings of 3/11/04 changed the results of their elections. Can you really blame them? If you pick a fight and ask your buddies to come with you to back you up, can you really count on all of them to show up? Edited April 11, 2004 by Gazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cufflink Posted April 11, 2004 #7 Share Posted April 11, 2004 By war on terrorism, we're actually talking war on Islamic terrorism. Britain and Spain having been putting up with terrorism for decades. Fat lot of help we got from anyone. Below, my home city of Manchester in 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted April 11, 2004 #8 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Terrorism is more of a disease than it is a group of people . In the eighties we would have refered to them as Libyians these days we refer to them as Islamic , neither answer is corect . Terrorists are found in all sorts of places as Cufflink pointed out , 1996 was not that long ago and the picture looks like something out of WW2 . But really I wanted to adress this ... New Zealand 60 Yes NZ sent 60 SAS troops to assist in finding Sadam and relaying information . These troops are no longer in use in Iraq , we now have a much larger peace keeping force aiding in rebuilding . The only job the NZ army is really ever used for. George Bush went into this war with Iraq without our support , and I'm still O.K. with that . As are the magority of New Zealanders . I still don't get the whole concept of it . Also all Kiwi troops are getting prepared to be pulled back out of Iraq , they are only there for Peace Keeping and re-building they will not be used to fight the people of Iraq . With the situation over there at the moment worsening , there is a much greater chance that they will be . So there for a huge Horah for Helen Clark for sticking to her guns . Gazz your list is impressive , but does it show the actuall number of troops sent over the past year or just the initial deployments . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted April 11, 2004 #9 Share Posted April 11, 2004 By war on terrorism, we're actually talking war on Islamic terrorism. Britain and Spain having been putting up with terrorism for decades. Fat lot of help we got from anyone. Below, my home city of Manchester in 1996. Well said cufflink. BTW fearfulone , i detest it when people refore to the whole of My country as "england" its like me refering to america as alabama. There are four home nations, england (being only one albeit the largest) , scotland, wales and Nothern Ireland and we make ONE entire country called Great Britain. PLease in future refer to us as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted April 11, 2004 #10 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Anyway, if it is just war against terrorism (not Iraq), wouldn't all world governments are going to support it? A lot of governments have been fighting terrorists for quite a while... George Bush went into this war with Iraq without our support , and I'm still O.K. with that . As are the magority of New Zealanders . I still don't get the whole concept of it . By war on terrorism, we're actually talking war on Islamic terrorism. Britain and Spain having been putting up with terrorism for decades. Fat lot of help we got from anyone. Just a short answer to you all: For years Islamic Terrorists have been 'terrorizing' us all, here and there. Past administrations dealt with the problem from a position of 'find those responsible and bring them to justice' as Condi Rice said a "tit for tat approach". President Bush is waging war against the terrorists. This has not been done before.....it is a first. It is a strategic war and Iraq is just part of the strategery. While Britain and Spain have been dealing with 'other' terror threats over the years ....this one is different. These terrorists want to destroy Western culture in total and replace it with something like we found in Afghanastan. Iraq seems worse now because the terrorists are losing and therefore giving it everything they've got. We all will win eventually......or we all will lose. It really depends on the leaders we all choose to guide us through the rest of this war....or the leaders we choose who will abandon the war and let the terror network reform and come back stronger, more sophisticated and nuclear powered. I love you all. joc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted April 11, 2004 #11 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Iraq seems worse now because the terrorists are losing and therefore giving it everything they've got. We all will win eventually......or we all will lose. It really depends on the leaders we all choose to guide us through the rest of this war....or the leaders we choose who will abandon the war and let the terror network reform and come back stronger, more sophisticated and nuclear powered. I love you all. joc I was wonderin where youd been joc. Ok are you talking about the fighting in fallujah joc? Because the people fighting in fallujah arent terrorists!!!!! Why do u think we are having peace talks with them?? Do you think that if they were anything like terrorists we would be having peace talks with them?? Ill look forward to you usual soundbite retort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunarmdscissor Posted April 11, 2004 #12 Share Posted April 11, 2004 (edited) While Britain and Spain have been dealing with 'other' terror threats over the years ....this one is different. Oh is that a fact Joc. So what your saying is that the thousands killed in here and in spain by ETA and the IRA werent as bad as when islamic fundamentalists killed americans????????? Whatever the cause they still killed and maimed thousands does it really make a difference what the cause is?? All terrorism is wrong what cufflink is gettin at is we didnt see much of a response from america in helping us did we?? I mean look at the casualties in the UK through terrorism yet you disregard it with an off the cuff remark as if to say "yeh but when we got attacked i was much worse". Edited April 11, 2004 by wunarmdscissor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bathory Posted April 11, 2004 #13 Share Posted April 11, 2004 whether or not America help you out when the IRA was bombing is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Posted April 12, 2004 #14 Share Posted April 12, 2004 Quick question: WHAT THE HELL HAS THE IRAQ WAR GOT TO DO WITH THE WAR ON TERRORISM? Setting aside the fact that it has alientated even more Muslims from the side of the West and sent them into the arms of Islamic fundamentalists. I have yet to see any credible evidence linking Saddam with Al Quida, 911, the Taliban or anything else to do with Islamic terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearfulone Posted April 12, 2004 #15 Share Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) BTW fearfulone , i detest it when people refore to the whole of My country as "england" its like me refering to america as alabama. There are four home nations, england (being only one albeit the largest) , scotland, wales and Nothern Ireland and we make ONE entire country called Great Britain. I mentioned England, the country, as supporting the war on terror, although i know i have shown the ignorance of calling the entire country of Great Britain, England, in other threads, and i do apologize for offending you and any of your country men. I too, Cufflink, think that this is a great point. Terrorism went on in Ireland between protestants and catholics for many years and it was not of any importance to the US or anyone until Islamic terrorism attacked us...i feel with you in the UK and Spain, and i apologize for the selfishness of this country... WHAT THE HELL HAS THE IRAQ WAR GOT TO DO WITH THE WAR ON TERRORISM? I don't believe Blue Scorpion mentioned iraq and i unknowingly did in my post on the involvement of other nations (i'm just so used to mentioning iraq with the war on terror). Iraq could be assossciated with the war on terror, however, because of the horrible atrocities Saddam comitted against his people. Halabja (warning: graphic images...look at your own risk; bleeding heart, thanks for the link Edited April 12, 2004 by fearfulone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Posted April 12, 2004 #16 Share Posted April 12, 2004 I don't believe Blue Scorpion mentioned iraq and i unknowingly did in my post on the involvement of other nations (i'm just so used to mentioning iraq with the war on terror). True, fearfulone, but Gazz was talking about troop numbers in Iraq, so I guess, like you, I slipped back into that zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearfulone Posted April 12, 2004 #17 Share Posted April 12, 2004 True, fearfulone, but Gazz was talking about troop numbers in Iraq, so I guess, like you, I slipped back into that zone. do i feel a hug coming on...yep, yep, yeah i do...oh, yeah...ok *pats on back* there ya go buddy....nice hug for a fellow UM forumer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted April 12, 2004 #18 Share Posted April 12, 2004 (edited) Quick question: WHAT THE HELL HAS THE IRAQ WAR GOT TO DO WITH THE WAR ON TERRORISM? The war in Iraq has been said to be over after the fall of Saddam, what we see now is indeed a war on terrorism. If you can't see this you missed my point. If you read my post after the list of nations you will see what I mean. Al Qaeda sent out a memo.. see my post in this forum called "terrorist memo". In that memo they (Al Qaeda) named all of the nations in the list as targets. But not one nation that is NOT on that list. The first post in this thread was about Canada and how that person wished her country (Canada) would do more. I made an example and gave my opinion as to why I believe Canada chose to stay out of it. Now to say that Iraq is not a part of the war on terrorism would be foolish. If we had not had the attacks of 9/11/01 We would not even be having this discussion. There would have been no war in Iraq. But because we did go to war in Iraq and removed Saddam from power, it created a nation void of leadership, the goal of the radical Islamic Shiites in Iraq is the same as Al Qaeda. They want to rule Iraq the same as the taliban did in Afghanistan. They would have Iraq become another nation where Islamic law and radical Islamic faith is not an option. Iraq would become a greater threat than Afghanistan ever was. Make no mistake the main focus in this war on terrorism is in Iraq now. And that is on all sides. If you can't see the Radical Islamic agenda at work in Iraq now you must be blind. If we lose or back up one inch in Iraq it will be a victory for terrorism. so YES Iraq is a major part of the war on terrorism. and all the nations in my list have been put on notice. France, Germany, and Canada can sit back and Realax for now, but soon even they will have to convert to Islam or die like the rest of us. Gazz Edited April 13, 2004 by Gazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearfulone Posted April 13, 2004 #19 Share Posted April 13, 2004 France, Germany, and Canada can sit back and Realax for now, but soon even they will have to convert to Islam or die like the rest of us. ...or they can defend themselves like the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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