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Gay marriage continues to threaten society...

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The Silver Thong

Funny that this thread has almost 80 posts and the only one that seems to be in the dark is a guy by the name of preacherman76, how ironic is that. Gays don't go out recruiting people so maybe thats where your confusion stems from.

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Drego
Funny that this thread has almost 80 posts and the only one that seems to be in the dark is a guy by the name of preacherman76, how ironic is that. Gays don't go out recruiting people so maybe thats where your confusion stems from.

I noticed that too, seems to mirror our society in general. :lol:

Also, in another thread like this, (same subject matter) the only "opponent" was named something like (liberate)mymind

() = changed name to protect user's identity.

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The Silver Thong
WOW.

I guess I have more than proven my point here. Good day folks.

You have proven nothing except that you think the bible speaks to you on a personal level. Most Christians don't have a problem gay marriage. Most Christians if they are Christians know that they should not Judge !!

Those Canadians in jail are there for a reason and if you choose to ignore why, than this is hopelessly lost on you.

YOU have no more rights than anyone else, until you infringe on another's rights. That is what you are saying, that Christianity supercedes personal rights and you are wrong...

If religion is taught in school so should the real world. Teaching kids myths and lies will only leed to further miss understanding of the world we live in today. Gays are here to stay as they always have been, better get use to it.

I have a tinny question, what would you do if one of your children came to you and told you they were gay ?

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You have proven nothing except that you think the bible speaks to you on a personal level. Most Christians don't have a problem gay marriage. Most Christians if they are Christians know that they should not Judge !!

Those Canadians in jail are there for a reason and if you choose to ignore why, than this is hopelessly lost on you.

YOU have no more rights than anyone else, until you infringe on another's rights. That is what you are saying, that Christianity supercedes personal rights and you are wrong...

If religion is taught in school so should the real world. Teaching kids myths and lies will only leed to further miss understanding of the world we live in today. Gays are here to stay as they always have been, better get use to it.

I have a tinny question, what would you do if one of your children came to you and told you they were gay ?

The OP states that these folks fear that thier rights will be taken from them. You said with your own words you have no problem violating freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. Striaght said you are glad people are in prison cause they believe and openly speak thier beliefs. You right, I didnt prove anything, YOU proved them right.

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I noticed that too, seems to mirror our society in general. :lol:

Also, in another thread like this, (same subject matter) the only "opponent" was named something like (liberate)mymind

() = changed name to protect user's identity.

I noticed Im the only one talking about this NOT from a emotional point of view.

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The Caspian Hare

gay people just want to have the benefits of marriage ... that does not threaten anyone's rights or well being, society has survived much greater things

I am mostly conservative but I also believe in leaving people alone, just as I wish to be left alone. There is no compelling reason to prevent gays getting married

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I noticed Im the only one talking about this NOT from a emotional point of view.

I disagree.

You "FEAR" the gays and the things they will do to hurt your children and family (like get married to each other.. WOOOOWHOOWOWO!)

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Because I didn't, though, just to clarify, not on account of being an ignorant fascist nazi.

Now, do you honestly, for some reason, believe that STD's, drugs, etc. (all of which occur regardless of homosexuality) cvan be blamed on gay culture?

Edit for spelling... <_<

I never blamed the homosexual community for those things. I just understand that they lead the way in those things, and dont feel its a path we should be teaching our children to condone. Even more to the point, if you want your child taught that, then God bless it, but dont stand in my way when I dont want my child taught that.

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gay people just want to have the benefits of marriage ... that does not threaten anyone's rights or well being, society has survived much greater things

I am mostly conservative but I also believe in leaving people alone, just as I wish to be left alone. There is no compelling reason to prevent gays getting married

Thats ALL Im trying to say.

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Drego
I noticed Im the only one talking about this NOT from a emotional point of view.

That's right. If you can't get passionate about fighting for something, there's no point in fighting whatsoever.

I never blamed the homosexual community for those things. I just understand that they lead the way in those things, and dont feel its a path we should be teaching our children to condone. Even more to the point, if you want your child taught that, then God bless it, but dont stand in my way when I dont want my child taught that.

But you are using them as a scapegoat for those things. If, statistically, homosexuals "lead the way" in STD's, it's NOT okay to lump the entire community in with that one negative aspect of culture.

If I'm reading your logic right (and I sorely hope I'm not...) your point seems to be: Homosexuals are leading the way in drug abuse, AIDS and other STDs, therefore, homosexuality is harmful to the community.

Correlation does NOT imply causation.

Edited by Drego

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The Silver Thong
The OP states that these folks fear that thier rights will be taken from them. You said with your own words you have no problem violating freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. Striaght said you are glad people are in prison cause they believe and openly speak thier beliefs. You right, I didnt prove anything, YOU proved them right.

This is not an emotional thread, unless we look at your posts of anti gay and lesbianism lol is that a word lol

The right to free speech is perfectly fine as long as that tone does not hide behind a bible and claim to be the victim as so many do. I think the reason your so upset is that religion as a whole is on the down turn and you feel you must do the work of Jesus befor his return.

You never did answer me. What would you do if one of your children came to you and told you that they were gay?

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That's right. If you can't get passionate about fighting for something, there's no point in fighting whatsoever.

Hang on... editing, as you've already responded to this post...

I dont need passion, when I have facts.

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The Silver Thong
I never blamed the homosexual community for those things. I just understand that they lead the way in those things, and dont feel its a path we should be teaching our children to condone. Even more to the point, if you want your child taught that, then God bless it, but dont stand in my way when I dont want my child taught that.

See this is what you don't get and I mean you really don't get it.

Children, teens, adults are NOT taught how to be gay, why don't you get that !!!! Being gay isn't learning about what homosexuality is, you are or you arn't. There is no choice, you are what you are. It's you that has a problem not the gay community.

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BlindMessiah
No one is challenging you're right to freedom of speech, only freedom of dumb speech. Please explain this concept of "homosexual lies"...

See, I'd love to take your side, but it's comments like this that force me to play the devil's advocate. How the hell do you outlaw dumb speech? Who determines what dumb speech is? People have a problem with hate crimes, because they don't target crimes, they target ideologies and free speech. Christians have as much right to say homosexuals are an abomination as I have to say that Yahweh is a genocidal b******.

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This is not an emotional thread, unless we look at your posts of anti gay and lesbianism lol is that a word lol

The right to free speech is perfectly fine as long as that tone does not hide behind a bible and claim to be the victim as so many do. I think the reason your so upset is that religion as a whole is on the down turn and you feel you must do the work of Jesus befor his return.

You never did answer me. What would you do if one of your children came to you and told you that they were gay?

perhaps if you linked the anti-gays to gay porn (lesbiens come under this category right) perhaps they will get turned on by the pics and cant think of anything to prove their point :P

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This is not an emotional thread, unless we look at your posts of anti gay and lesbianism lol is that a word lol

The right to free speech is perfectly fine as long as that tone does not hide behind a bible and claim to be the victim as so many do. I think the reason your so upset is that religion as a whole is on the down turn and you feel you must do the work of Jesus befor his return.

You never did answer me. What would you do if one of your children came to you and told you that they were gay?

I see, so basicaly people are free to say what they want, unless you disagree. Then they should be put in jail. That isnt free speech, not by ANY stretch of the imagination.

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

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The Silver Thong
I dont need passion, when I have facts.

Your facts are yours alone, sad to say. Or are you talking about the facts in the bible LOL now that would be rich ;)

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BlindMessiah
LOL, I see, your of the crowd that thinks its ok to silence people who dont agree with you. Sorry we dont live in Nazi Germany.

You manage to bring up Nazis in every damn thread.

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The Silver Thong
I see, so basicaly people are free to say what they want, unless you disagree. Then they should be put in jail. That isnt free speech, not by ANY stretch of the imagination.

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

You see when it comes to religion free speech is an oxymoron, why don't you get that. You claim false hoods as fact and condemn others for not believing you. Guess who attacks first in this situation? the religious right, thats who.

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preacherman76
See this is what you don't get and I mean you really don't get it.

Children, teens, adults are NOT taught how to be gay, why don't you get that !!!! Being gay isn't learning about what homosexuality is, you are or you arn't. There is no choice, you are what you are. It's you that has a problem not the gay community.

Because you DONT know whether or not that is true at all. When you find a ligit homosexual gene, you will have a argument. Till then, no one really knows why people are gay, and we for damn sure dont have any studies on what may or may not happen to 5 year olds who are taught this.

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You see when it comes to religion free speech is an oxymoron, why don't you get that. You claim false hoods as fact and condemn others for not believing you. Guess who attacks first in this situation? the religious right, thats who.

Free speech is free speech, to any and to all. Stay in Canada if you dont like it, cause here in America we value such things.

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You manage to bring up Nazis in every damn thread.

Well when Im told I should be in prison for this very conversation, what other conclution could I draw??

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Drego

Reposted for convenience:

I never blamed the homosexual community for those things. I just understand that they lead the way in those things, and dont feel its a path we should be teaching our children to condone. Even more to the point, if you want your child taught that, then God bless it, but dont stand in my way when I dont want my child taught that.

But you are using them as a scapegoat for those things. If, statistically, homosexuals "lead the way" in STD's, it's NOT okay to lump the entire community in with that one negative aspect of culture.

If I'm reading your logic right (and I sorely hope I'm not...) your point seems to be: Homosexuals are leading the way in drug abuse, AIDS and other STDs, therefore, homosexuality is harmful to the community.

Correlation does NOT imply causation.

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