Elementary my dear Watson

[The Proposer 1]

lets assume that there is no ultimate creator.

and a new discovery as just been made,magnetism.

we notice that this is a universal occurence atomic shells have a magnetic component as do planets,these are dynamic magnets and a pattern of force lines exist,there are also earth magnets which have these same pattern fields,now using our detective skills we can discuss how these patterns of force have come into being,things that i will note/ask is,

there are many many instances of magnetic patterns,why are they all the same,or very similar.

what age are the earth magnets,.

which came first in planetary terns,the magnetic component of the planets body or the material of thy body.

we know that molds such as jelly molds,sancastle buckets,coin minting machines etc were created and designed,so the mystery now is how did these magnetic molds/set patterns come into being.(or indeed how did the mold of individual species come into being)........there are probably a lot more questions or observations ,but i cant think of any at moment..

[aquatus1 7,093]

You had me up until the last two paragraphs.

which came first in planetary terns,the magnetic component of the planets body or the material of thy body.

If the body wasn't first, then how would the magnetic component become present? If we notice that atoms have a magnetic field, and then we notice that planets have a magnetic field, then we notice that pretty much everything that has mass has a magnetic field, the first thing we would do is try to find the common denominator, which in this case is density.

we know that molds such as jelly molds,sancastle buckets,coin minting machines etc were created and designed,so the mystery now is how did these magnetic molds/set patterns come into being.(or indeed how did the mold of individual species come into being)........there are probably a lot more questions or observations ,but i cant think of any at moment.

What do molds have to do with it? How did they get into this conversation?

Edited April 25, 2004 by aquatus1

[X~File_Agent 0]

Ok, starting a new thread Proposer isn't going to help your cause. You could of easily posted this on your original thread. Which ended up going around in circles. This is absurd.

Man i just grew some gray hair

[Seraphina 2]

What do molds have to do with it? How did they get into this conversation?

If you'll read the "proving the obvious" thread...which this seems to be a rehash of, in an attempt to escape the utterly flawless arguements by Mr Penguin, who I will continue to mark out for to my dying day you will discover that Mr Proposer is under the impression that the fact that buckets are created on an essembly line, somehow miraculously means the universe was created by an intelligent being.

[PsychicPenguin 0]

Mr Penguin, who I will continue to mark out for to my dying day

You know you shouldn't bow to any other God but me

[Magikman 8]

Merging this thread with the original would throw off the oh so delicate continuity that is barely being maintained in that one, so I'll just close this one. Proposer, there's nothing substantially different offered in this thread that justifies its continuation, don't clog the forum with threads that address the same topic, irregardless of whatever inept analogies you choose to apply to your arguement.

Magikman