preacherman76 Posted May 21, 2009 #426 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, there is a case against many of those "million Americans"? Unless I see direct evidence against them, and do process of law, then HELL NO. If there is a case, then bring it forth. If not, let them be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1CKY D1AMOND Posted May 21, 2009 #427 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Unless I see direct evidence against them, and do process of law, then HELL NO. If there is a case, then bring it forth. If not, let them be free. It's not hard to find out which people are at a high risk to kill or attempt to kill... You don't need a judge to tell you this just people who earn a living understanding the human mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 21, 2009 #428 Share Posted May 21, 2009 It's not hard to find out which people are at a high risk to kill or attempt to kill... You don't need a judge to tell you this just people who earn a living understanding the human mind. Its even easyer than you think according to home land security. All you have to do is believe Abortion should be illegal. Or that we should enforce imigration laws, or BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, or any number of other POLITICAL beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHuman Posted May 21, 2009 #429 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Its even easyer than you think according to home land security. All you have to do is believe Abortion should be illegal. Or that we should enforce imigration laws, or BELIEVE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, or any number of other POLITICAL beliefs. Are we talking about the gov't intelligence labeling people as POTENTIAL terrorists? Because you do know that they did a report on the left too yeah? Or is this the "no fly no buy" list.. in which case... no, believe abortion is illegal will NOT have your guns taken away. Calm down and smell the fear mongering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 21, 2009 #430 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Are we talking about the gov't intelligence labeling people as POTENTIAL terrorists? Because you do know that they did a report on the left too yeah? Or is this the "no fly no buy" list.. in which case... no, believe abortion is illegal will NOT have your guns taken away. Calm down and smell the fear mongering. Of course it will, Home land security has already labled such POTENTIAL TERRORIST's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trancelikestate Posted May 21, 2009 #431 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well as a American let me be the first to tell you we dont give a rats *** what you think. once again. typical american... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Umbarger Posted May 22, 2009 Author #432 Share Posted May 22, 2009 preacherman76 @ May 21 2009, 12:48 PM) Well as a American let me be the first to tell you we dont give a rats *** what you think. once again. typical american... So, which countries put the interests of non-nationals above the interests of their own citizens? Of course, to be perfectly honest, no one cares what Americans think anyhow so, why should we start caring about the thoughts and wishes of other countries? If "Little Johnny" doesn't care about "Little Janet", then why would "Little Janets" thoughts worry him so? Just saying..... It just sort of irks me when people from other nations are depicted as hating this president or that one. I mean, are we supposed to elect a leader based on rather the French will like him or not? Do you think that the people of (Insert countries name here) vote for a leader based on how the man in the street over in the U.S. is going to feel about him? Of course not! So, that being said, why should we care if someone in another country likes us, the POTUS, our love of fast food? (O.K. I just realized that I went off topic on a thread that I started that was side tracked several posts ago.! Damn! I LOVE the UM!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 22, 2009 #433 Share Posted May 22, 2009 once again. typical american... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS-One Posted May 22, 2009 #434 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) once again. typical american... So, which countries put the interests of non-nationals above the interests of their own citizens? Of course, to be perfectly honest, no one cares what Americans think anyhow so, why should we start caring about the thoughts and wishes of other countries? If "Little Johnny" doesn't care about "Little Janet", then why would "Little Janets" thoughts worry him so? Just saying..... It just sort of irks me when people from other nations are depicted as hating this president or that one. I mean, are we supposed to elect a leader based on rather the French will like him or not? Do you think that the people of (Insert countries name here) vote for a leader based on how the man in the street over in the U.S. is going to feel about him? Of course not! So, that being said, why should we care if someone in another country likes us, the POTUS, our love of fast food? (O.K. I just realized that I went off topic on a thread that I started that was side tracked several posts ago.! Damn! I LOVE the UM!) It seems incredibly naive to dismiss a persons opinion simply because of their current geographical location. I hate to use a trite analogy, but as a Packer fan, when Favre left I didn't counter the fans of other teams with "Well you're a Cowboys fan so screw you and your worthless opinion!". I did not do this because they have access to the same information and sources that I do to form their opinions and ideas. In the arena of global politics, I see no problem with people providing their opinions, ideas, and arguments regardless of their origin. Having a perspective on many issues in another country often puts you ahead of even the local "man on the street" as you put it, since Joe (or Jose, or Yosef, or Jooseppi) Six-Pack is just as likely to give you a glazed over "huh?" when asked about the issue being spoken of in his own country. Edited May 22, 2009 by KRS-One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted May 22, 2009 #435 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Unless I see direct evidence against them, and do process of law, then HELL NO. If there is a case, then bring it forth. If not, let them be free. What about the rest of the questions I asked, preacherguy? Or did you only want to answer this one because then you could sound outraged when answering it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadetak Posted May 22, 2009 #436 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Irony is bitter sweet. I just find it odd and ironic that the same people who want there guns cheap and easy are the same who don't want to legalize marijuana or prostitution. Or for the extreme righties who cry wolf everytime anything even mentions the 2nd Amendment but when it comes to the 1st or seperation or church and state...it's F that bibles in school, in God we trust on the money, and no gay marriage. Obama suggests some legislature that has to do with the right to bear arms everybody screams foul...Busch's Patriot Act? "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about" loved that line because the logic doesn't work in my favor when I say "if you pass through all regulations and restrictions then you will have nothing to worry about" Or Founding Fathers this, Founding Fathers that...like they were infallible gods of myth and legend. The same guys who first thought "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" also owned slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 22, 2009 #437 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Irony is bitter sweet. I just find it odd and ironic that the same people who want there guns cheap and easy are the same who don't want to legalize marijuana or prostitution. Im against the fake war on drugs. Or for the extreme righties who cry wolf everytime anything even mentions the 2nd Amendment but when it comes to the 1st or seperation or church and state...it's F that bibles in school, in God we trust on the money, and no gay marriage. The only thing the constitution says about church and state, is the state shall make NO LAW regarding it. Obama suggests some legislature that has to do with the right to bear arms everybody screams foul...Busch's Patriot Act? "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about" loved that line because the logic doesn't work in my favor when I say "if you pass through all regulations and restrictions then you will have nothing to worry about" As I already said in this thread, Bush is the guy who woke me up to the evils of goverment, And I will go WAY further in pointing out his crimes than YOU. Or Founding Fathers this, Founding Fathers that...like they were infallible gods of myth and legend. The same guys who first thought "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" also owned slaves. Hey, Im not the one who stands every 4 years and pretends defend the document "so help me God". Why even pretend? Im mean 200 years ago there were slaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadetak Posted May 22, 2009 #438 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Im against the fake war on drugs. The only thing the constitution says about church and state, is the state shall make NO LAW regarding it. As I already said in this thread, Bush is the guy who woke me up to the evils of goverment, And I will go WAY further in pointing out his crimes than YOU. Hey, Im not the one who stands every 4 years and pretends defend the document "so help me God". Why even pretend? Im mean 200 years ago there were slaves I was making a generalized point and not specific to anybody here. The second amendment is "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I'm agreeing with the 'well regulated' part of that amendment...and also the fact that none of us are in a Militia. I already have two arms on my body...that could technically count. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"...having in God we trust and so help me God is giving a lot of respect, as do tax breaks and everything else. I'm prohibited in practicing my religious exercise of walking around nude... The fist and second amendment are weak in my opinion, not detailed nearly enough for a legal document. My insurance papers cross every T and dot every i...but my constitution doesn't. Also the law makers now didn't have foresight or knew how their law would apply or if it would still apply a couple hundred years in the future(hence ratifications). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgolly Posted May 22, 2009 #439 Share Posted May 22, 2009 so the second amendment isn't about our right to protect ourselves from the coming attack from the revenge of the planet of the apes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjadude Posted May 22, 2009 #440 Share Posted May 22, 2009 so the second amendment isn't about our right to protect ourselves from the coming attack from the revenge of the planet of the apes? The "Planet of the Apes" was fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1CKY D1AMOND Posted May 22, 2009 #441 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Im against the fake war on drugs. It's not a war on drugs it's a war on freedom of mind and expression.... Here we agree anyway though. The only thing the constitution says about church and state, is the state shall make NO LAW regarding it. But there have been laws enforced in the US regarding this issue though, Kansas is a perfect example of this where science teachers can no longer teach only science and instead also have to teach creationism. Prohibiting same sex couples based on religious bias as well and even allowing religious lobbying is absurd. As I already said in this thread, Bush is the guy who woke me up to the evils of goverment, And I will go WAY further in pointing out his crimes than YOU. My mom did this for me so did reading history books and learning about the machine. Hey, Im not the one who stands every 4 years and pretends defend the document "so help me God". Why even pretend? Im mean 200 years ago there were slaves I know someone who owns several slaves... They are called Mexicans now and will do whatever you want them to for like $2 an hour, even wipe your *** probably. The "Planet of the Apes" was fiction. True but if you watch those movies in different context other then just purely entertainment they really parallel real world politics and sociology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted May 22, 2009 #442 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Hey, Im not the one who stands every 4 years and pretends defend the document "so help me God". Why even pretend? Im mean 200 years ago there were slaves If you want to demonized everyone by linking them from the past, then that includes yourself. So we might not prosecute anyone anymore and to each his own since we are all bad anyway base on your mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted May 22, 2009 #443 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) It's not a war on drugs it's a war on freedom of mind and expression.... Here we agree anyway though. Here we go, demonize eveyrthing and everyone except DRUGS.LOL Edited May 22, 2009 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS-One Posted May 23, 2009 #444 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Here we go, demonize eveyrthing and everyone except DRUGS.LOL Yes. Certainly the legal and ethical conundrums encountered with the policies used by state agencies against the public are worthy of absolutely no consideration because "EW DRUGS LOL!". How insightful of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 23, 2009 #445 Share Posted May 23, 2009 If you want to demonized everyone by linking them from the past, then that includes yourself. So we might not prosecute anyone anymore and to each his own since we are all bad anyway base on your mindset. The past? The man swore to defend the document just over 100 days ago. I dont understand what you are trying to say here AR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now