chemical-licker Posted May 15, 2009 #1 Share Posted May 15, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...P-leaflets.html Postmen 'threatened with sack' for refusing to deliver BNP leaflets BNP leader Nick Griffin, whose party is predicted to make gains in the upcoming European elections Dozens of postal workers are refusing to deliver British National Party election leaflets because they do not want to promote its right-wing 'rubbish', it emerged today. Around 100 workers in the West Country have told union leaders they will not carry the leaflets, which bear an anti-immigration message. They have accused Royal Mail bosses in Bristol and Somerset of 'bullying' over delivering material with one office allegedly threatening workers with the sack if they do not comply. The Communication Workers Union claims Royal Mail is breaking a 'conscience clause' agreed four years ago which allows staff to refuse to deliver literature they find offensive. Dave Wilshire, spokesman for the Bristol and District Branch of the CWU, said today: 'Over the past 48 hours I've had around 32 calls from individual members and those speaking on behalf of groups, saying they don't want to deliver the material. 'That is fair enough. We have a national agreement, known as the 'conscience clause', between the union and the Royal Mail. The clause says members don't have to deliver material if they feel threatened or if it is against their personal beliefs. 'In Bristol we have the St Paul's area which has a very high density of those from ethnic backgrounds. Anyone being expected to post BNP stuff through there is going to feel at risk. 'What's happening is that managers in Bristol are effectively bullying people. Someone from Thornbury said to me, 'if we don't deliver it we will get the sack'. 'That is outrageous.' He estimated that around 100 people in the region were refusing or protesting at the leaflet delivery. One postal worker, who has a round in the Fishponds area of Bristol, said the route bordered two ethnic minority areas and it was 'concerning' to be made to drop off inflammatory material. He told the Western Daily Press: 'We are being forced by management to give out the BNP material even though it's against my beliefs - everyone knows what they stand for. 'We are being made to dish out this rubbish. I've read the BNP literature and although there isn't anything racist or fascist on it, it does say 'No to immigration''. Workers were asked to start delivering the material this week ahead of the European elections next month. BNP spokesman Simon Darby said today: 'We have a contract with the Royal Mail to deliver some 29 million BNP leaflets. Some will be binned by Labour--supporting postmen who want to corrupt the democratic process, but it is a question of cutting that down. 'People will make up their own minds about the Communication Workers Union telling people what to do. This is the sort of thing that is happening in Zimbabwe. 'The Royal Mail have been quite good - if some of their workers don't want to deliver our leaflets, other postmen who are more professional can do it as overtime.' A Royal Mail spokesperson said today: 'Where possible we will try to be flexible and sensitive to individual personal circumstances or beliefs. 'However, we need to balance this with Royal Mail's legal obligations under the Representation of People Act, to deliver election material.' Like as if a leaflet ever changes anyones mind, geeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Light Posted May 15, 2009 #2 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Presumably they knew, when applying for their positions that even the BNP use Royal Mail, who would be in a very sticky position if they were to discriminate against certain organisations etc. They have two options... suck it up, or change careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 15, 2009 #3 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Did they pay the post office to have the flier delivered? If so, who the hell is a mailman to say what they will and will not deliever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted May 15, 2009 #4 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Facts are the BNP are a legitimate political party playing by the rules. The Postmen should just deliver the leaflets. I would like to think the Great British electorate are cleverer enough not to be persuaded by BNP propaganda leaflets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted May 15, 2009 Author #5 Share Posted May 15, 2009 this might be why, i found the real agenda for why people are not delivering bnp leaflets linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted May 15, 2009 #6 Share Posted May 15, 2009 'We are being made to dish out this rubbish. I've read the BNP literature and although there isn't anything racist or fascist on it, it does say 'No to immigration''. huh, I swear, these people are mental... 'That is fair enough. We have a national agreement, known as the 'conscience clause', between the union and the Royal Mail. The clause says members don't have to deliver material if they feel threatened or if it is against their personal beliefs. Banks are against my personal beliefs, therefore I won't deliver any bank statements or credit cards, or any bills.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal Light Posted May 15, 2009 #7 Share Posted May 15, 2009 'However, we (Royal Mail) need to balance this with Royal Mail's legal obligations under the Representation of People Act, to deliver election material.' Exactly! 'Nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted May 15, 2009 #8 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I love how people declare they'll thwart all BNP 'facist' events and leaflets. Claiming this is a democracy and not a facist state. Yet, in doing so, they're more facist and anti-democratic than the BNP themselves. By declaring they can't be a political party because the person doesn't agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted May 16, 2009 #9 Share Posted May 16, 2009 Sack them all, there's plenty of people looking for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted May 16, 2009 #10 Share Posted May 16, 2009 So presumably the ZaNu Labour supporting posties will trash all the Tory leaflets & vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted May 16, 2009 #11 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I got mine in the post, as anyone not had theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted May 16, 2009 #12 Share Posted May 16, 2009 I got mine in the post, as anyone not had theirs. Only one I've seen on the front floor - under the letter-box - is a UKIP flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted May 16, 2009 #13 Share Posted May 16, 2009 mail is mail ... the only thing required is the worker deliver it ... he was not hired for his opinion of it. this is like Pharmacists here in the states refusing to give out birth control and what not on 'religious beliefs' ... your job is to fill a prescription not to refuse to because of your personal beliefs. Can't do the job ? find a new one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Danger Posted May 16, 2009 #14 Share Posted May 16, 2009 good for them i say they shouldnt have to post anything about the BNP's racist bollucks anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted May 16, 2009 Author #15 Share Posted May 16, 2009 good for them i say they shouldnt have to post anything about the BNP's racist bollucks anyway! i got a feeling you need to come out of the closet, hey! only thinking what ripley was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Danger Posted May 16, 2009 #16 Share Posted May 16, 2009 i got a feeling you need to come out of the closet, hey! only thinking what ripley was thinking. well think about it. would you want any leaflet coming through your door saying what the BNP party will do for you if you vote them in? "send everyone back from where they came from" "no people allowed into the country" "pure brittish only" you get the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted May 16, 2009 Author #17 Share Posted May 16, 2009 well think about it. would you want any leaflet coming through your door saying what the BNP party will do for you if you vote them in? "send everyone back from where they came from" "no people allowed into the country" "pure brittish only" you get the picture... only the descent people who benefit the country only. get where im coming from? Only today i was on the bus and a advertisment said A rape happens every 24 hrs its ugly but the truth, phone this number, cant remeber the number get it now???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted May 17, 2009 #18 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Only one I've seen on the front floor - under the letter-box - is a UKIP flyer. The BNP one is a bit predictable, not very good really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted May 17, 2009 #19 Share Posted May 17, 2009 well think about it. would you want any leaflet coming through your door saying what the BNP party will do for you if you vote them in? "send everyone back from where they came from" "no people allowed into the country" "pure brittish only" you get the picture... At this rate England will look like Iran in 25 years. Do you really want to become a islamic nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted May 17, 2009 #20 Share Posted May 17, 2009 The UKIP one is pretty good. i'll be voting for them, they tick most of the boxes. http://www.ukip.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted May 17, 2009 Author #21 Share Posted May 17, 2009 the uk independence party, sounds like the bnp to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted May 17, 2009 #22 Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) the uk independence party, sounds like the bnp to me. No just a good old traditional British type Party. one of the few parties that seem to believe in ourselves as a Country. Edited May 17, 2009 by stevewinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted May 17, 2009 Author #23 Share Posted May 17, 2009 No just a good old traditional British type Party. one of the few parties that seem to believe in ourselves as a Country. like the bnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted May 17, 2009 #24 Share Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) well think about it. would you want any leaflet coming through your door saying what the BNP party will do for you if you vote them in? "send everyone back from where they came from" "no people allowed into the country" "pure brittish only" you get the picture... err....yes. (well considering what all the other shitesters have 'done for us'). Edited May 17, 2009 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd Reign Posted May 17, 2009 #25 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I feel If you want to protest,do it in other ways;don't use something that is going to hurt everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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