but don't vote for the BNP, plead Archbishops

[Admiral Danger]

So, what are your experiances the authority teachers used in the 80s ?

well from what my parents told me, it was the cane

[Bill Hill]

It's all too much... on street level people know what's going on and who's responsible,

I've tried so hard to fight it, but in the end you're fighting yourself.

all the parties have so far demonstrated their incompetence

it's gonna take a revolution to sort it out.

BNP, it is...

let's shake things up a bit.

and if things get messy, so what...I mean, it can't get any worse.

[Bill Hill]

What you said about the average BNP member not realising the implications of their choice is very true.

huh? mmmh Like that's not partonising..

like if the BNP did get into power what do you think would happen?

Nick Griffin would declare himself 'mein further' dictator of the UK!?

They'd set up concentration camps?

Please.. and you go on about conspiracy theories..

Everything is tainted to support this right-wing, fearful and xenophobic ideology.

sorry that is BS,

how you have the Scottish national party? and they're considered 'rosy'

how come you have Sinn Féin for southern island and they're ok.

Why are some people in UK so hung up of being proud to be part of the United Kingdom?

wet middle class guilty trip.

oh sorry, for being a white male born in the United Kingdom, throw me to the wolves..

crime of the century..

**** em all,

[hetrodoxly]

No, they truly don't have any authority any more.

Anyway I better make an on-topic point; I fail to see why the BNP actually still exists. It should be completely revoked as a political party. Every party deserves equal rights, so discriminating against any party is wrong. The fact is, the BNP should not be a political party and they're a taint upon our country. It's not the policies, it's the people involved. The leaders of the BNP are holocaust deniers and Nazis. They are against everything Britain fought for during the war, and to support them is an insult to the heroes who fought and died to protect us during the world wars. Fortunately most people that support the BNP do not realise this, and so do not agree with the Nazi ideals that the party leaders actually follow. So hopefully if they actually manage to do a little bit of research into the party they will find it to be abhorrent and withdraw their support. It would be a sad day if the BNP ever gained power.

The majority of nazis today are left of centre or in Islam, the people voting BNP know very well what they're voting for, it's a bit patronising for you to say otherwise and arrogant to think you know better, if the solders from WW1 & WW2 came back and saw the state the UK was in they'd vote BNP to a man, the electorate will decide who B ritains N ext P arliament will be.

[Bill Hill]

They are against everything Britain fought for during the war, and to support them is an insult to the heroes who fought and died to protect us during the world wars.

To be honest I think most soldiers of that old skool generation... would now say with hindsight..

what the **** was I fighting for? Look at what the UK has become.

Ask old people what they think of the UK now..

too scared to walk the streets...

[TheResearcher]

huh? mmmh Like that's not partonising..

like if the BNP did get into power what do you think would happen?

Nick Griffin would declare himself 'mein further' dictator of the UK!?

They'd set up concentration camps?

Please.. and you go on about conspiracy theories..

Do you think Hitler wasn't subtle? Playing on the fears at the time, and via propaganda he achieved his sick ideals. I doubt Nick Griffin would be competant enough at these to do so, but lets not give them a chance to try it.

sorry that is BS,

how you have the Scottish national party? and they're considered 'rosy'

how come you have Sinn Féin for southern island and they're ok.

Why are some people in UK so hung up of being proud to be part of the United Kingdom?

wet middle class guilty trip.

oh sorry, for being a white male born in the United Kingdom, throw me to the wolves..

crime of the century..

**** em all,

From what I've seen of the SNP, their leaders don't seem to have the same thug like mentality as the BNP.

The majority of nazis today are left of centre or in Islam, the people voting BNP know very well what they're voting for, it's a bit patronising for you to say otherwise and arrogant to think you know better, if the solders from WW1 & WW2 came back and saw the state the UK was in they'd vote BNP to a man, the electorate will decide who B ritains N ext P arliament will be.

No, truly the overwhelming majority of those who consider voting BNP don't realise the people they're voting for. They might have a few rough ideas about policies and may agree with them, some of which do have sense to them. But they don't look at the backgrounds of the people they would actually be electing. They're basically a bunch of thugs, many of which are Nazis - holocaust deniers et cetera. Everyone I have spoken to who was considering voting BNP had no true understanding of the actual people involved. Sure, they might have glossy policies and a nice patriotic feel on the surface, but if you dig a little deeper you see something far nastier. I'm completely certain that our soldiers from the world wars would not have voted BNP. The people that witnessed the attrocities of the holocaust and fought against Hitler are not likely to put someone in power who denies it's very existance.

[TheResearcher]

To be honest I think most soldiers of that old skool generation... would now say with hindsight..

what the **** was I fighting for? Look at what the UK has become.

Ask old people what they think of the UK now..

too scared to walk the streets...

I agree, but the BNP in power would make it even worse. Then they truly would have fought for nothing; to see the country they died to defend taken control of by Nazi scum like Griffin.

Edited May 25, 2009 by TheResearcher

[chemical-licker]

I agree, but the BNP in power would make it even worse. Then they truly would have fought for nothing; to see the country they died to defend taken control of by Nazi scum like Griffin.

have you met him personally?

[TheResearcher]

have you met him personally?

Here's something he said:

I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated and turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the world is flat ... I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch-hysteria.

- Source

That's all I need to know about him.

[hetrodoxly]

No, truly the overwhelming majority of those who consider voting BNP don't realise the people they're voting for. They might have a few rough ideas about policies and may agree with them, some of which do have sense to them. But they don't look at the backgrounds of the people they would actually be electing. They're basically a bunch of thugs, many of which are Nazis - holocaust deniers et cetera. Everyone I have spoken to who was considering voting BNP had no true understanding of the actual people involved. Sure, they might have glossy policies and a nice patriotic feel on the surface, but if you dig a little deeper you see something far nastier. I'm completely certain that our soldiers from the world wars would not have voted BNP. The people that witnessed the attrocities of the holocaust and fought against Hitler are not likely to put someone in power who denies it's very existance.

You can make up all the story's you like, but like all political parties you have to go by their manifesto. don't tell no one but if NL get back into power all white people have to black their faces before leaving the house as it offends muslims, keep it to yourself.

[chemical-licker]

Here's something he said:

- Source

That's all I need to know about him.

wow, i hate to be drunk around you

[Bill Hill]

Here's something he said:

- Source

That's all I need to know about him.

well he can't be too anti-semitic because..

BNP Jewish win

by: Leslie Bunder

A Jewish woman has won a council seat in Essex for the far right British National Party.

Patricia Richardson (nee Feldman) won her seat in Epping Forest and will now be a councillor for the Loughton Fairmead ward. Her husband, also a BNP candidate won the nearby ward of Loughton Broadway.

"It is a good result for us. We are not supposed to get anyone in anywhere, are we? We are very pleased with the Epping result," said BNP national press officer Dr Phil Edwards.

link

Edited May 25, 2009 by Bill Hill

[hetrodoxly]

Here's something he said:

- Source

That's all I need to know about him.

Current stance

Griffin went on record in 2005 stating "This party has finally cast off the leg iron of anti-Semitism and not a moment too soon."[citation needed] The BNP currently has a Jewish councillor, Patricia Richardson, and has stated that it has Jewish members

He also said (from your link)

On 6 March 2008, he was interviewed by Kirsty Wark on BBC Two's Newsnight. He blamed Muslim immigrants, particularly Pakistanis, for the country's hard drugs problems,

That's because it's true, we need politicians with the ball's to tell the truth.

[chemical-licker]

That's because it's true, we need politicians with the ball's to tell the truth.

so true and im dreaming of the day it happens

[hetrodoxly]

so true and im dreaming of the day it happens

There's more of us dreaming than "they" realize.

[Wyvernkeeper]

well he can't be too anti-semitic because..

BNP Jewish win

by: Leslie Bunder

A Jewish woman has won a council seat in Essex for the far right British National Party.

Patricia Richardson (nee Feldman) won her seat in Epping Forest and will now be a councillor for the Loughton Fairmead ward. Her husband, also a BNP candidate won the nearby ward of Loughton Broadway.

"It is a good result for us. We are not supposed to get anyone in anywhere, are we? We are very pleased with the Epping result," said BNP national press officer Dr Phil Edwards.

link

woop de doo... they have a jewish candidate, but I can't imagine a practicing jew going along with them...

and this doesn't suddenly mean the party is now void of anti-semitism

[Bill Hill]

woop de doo... they have a jewish candidate, but I can't imagine a practicing jew going along with them...

and this doesn't suddenly mean the party is now void of anti-semitism

well it demonstrates it's not policy

same with the Green party, probably plenty of anti semites in there.. but it's not their policy.

[ExpandMyMind]

it's a shame... people actually think it matters who we vote for....

said this before... the only way to clean out our system would be to NOT VOTE... then after they try again... we dont vote again... until eventually our government gets the damned message and clears house.

[ExpandMyMind]

That's because it's true, we need politicians with the ball's to tell the truth.

i doubt that would happen with this system. after all, all a politician is, is a paid liar.

[Wyvernkeeper]

well it demonstrates it's not policy

same with the Green party, probably plenty of anti semites in there.. but it's not their policy.

yep, well, actively pursuing something as policy makes a big difference... and it doesnt demonstrate its not policy, it just demonstrates that Nick Griffin is clever enough to realise that having a jewish counseller allows him to claim against charges of anti-semitism, lapped up by those such as yourself... it doesnt mean these people have actually changed on the inside.

[Bill Hill]

yep, well, actively pursuing something as policy makes a big difference... and it doesnt demonstrate its not policy, it just demonstrates that Nick Griffin is clever enough to realise that having a jewish counseller allows him to claim against charges of anti-semitism, lapped up by those such as yourself... it doesnt mean these people have actually changed on the inside.

er right, so according to you, they've been fooled then?

The Jewish counseller is less intelligent than you, the jewish community who voted for her are less intelligent than you,

but Nick Griffin is clever... about same intelligence as you? higher or lower..

[itsnotoutthere]

er right, so according to you, they've been fooled then?

The Jewish counseller is less intelligent than you, the jewish community who voted for her are less intelligent than you,

but Nick Griffin is clever... about same intelligence as you? higher or lower..

Bill, I think 'Wyvernkeeper' just wants us all to vote for the same deadwood MPs that have got us into this mess in the first place. ...lets not rock the boat.....god forbid we should try something different......good god befor you know it we'll be invading Poland.....& it was empty.

[Bill Hill]

Bill, I think 'Wyvernkeeper' just wants us all to vote for the same deadwood MPs that have got us into this mess in the first place. ...lets not rock the boat.....god forbid we should try something different......good god befor you know it we'll be invading Poland.....& it was empty.

yeah deadwood MP's.

I say let's try something different, things can't get any worse..

besides, as least things will be interesting.

[itsnotoutthere]

yeah deadwood MP's.

I say let's try something different, things can't get any worse..

besides, as least things will be interesting.

Yep, well the ice caps are melting & we're all gonna die anyway....

[Wyvernkeeper]

er right, so according to you, they've been fooled then?

The Jewish counseller is less intelligent than you, the jewish community who voted for her are less intelligent than you,

but Nick Griffin is clever... about same intelligence as you? higher or lower..

Bill, I think 'Wyvernkeeper' just wants us all to vote for the same deadwood MPs that have got us into this mess in the first place. ...lets not rock the boat.....god forbid we should try something different......good god befor you know it we'll be invading Poland.....& it was empty.

What's all this about intelligence,? Apart from being a loaded question its also something that by answering I would have just come across as arrogant... you honestly believe that I'm gonna say that Nick Griffin is cleverer than myself? The only was point I was making was that for the BNP to claim her as jewish when she has said that she does not practice means the definition is somewhat cloudy, she does not identify as a jew therefore the BNP get the best of both worlds. On one hand she is technically jewish so the BNP can claim that they are not racist, however as she doesnt practice they can claim to their own supporters that they are not selling out by associating with jews. Its not about intelligence, its just politics, the science of manipulation, something the BNP seem to be rapidly getting better at.

Sorry itsnotoutther, ive never voted for a mainstream party member, its always been green or independents... so i dont think i am 'responsible' for what you claim... We can try something 'different' but why does it have to be the BNP way?

and your poland comment has gone completely over my head, no idea what you are banging on about there.

So you guys vote for whoever you want, i think its sad but if thats how you feel, go for it... I dont think the parties in power atm are anywhere near what any of us would choose, but if it comes down to a contest between a party that thrives on sleaze and a party that thrives on hate, well.... im with sleaze any day... its simply the lesser of two evils.

Can I ask you guys a question, do you guys 100% honestly believe the BNP rhetoric about immigrants, white workers and the EU to be the truth?

Edited May 27, 2009 by Wyvernkeeper