Karlis Posted June 13, 2009 #1 Share Posted June 13, 2009 It is the first time one has been seen using a tool to hunt. The extraordinary image, a world exclusive, was taken in Borneo on the island of Kaja, where apes are rehabilitated into the wild after being rescued from zoos, private homes or even butchers' shops. Read more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted June 13, 2009 #2 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hunting fish with spears? That's mere mechanical work. Some work as librarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behaviour??? Posted June 13, 2009 #3 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Orangutans are said to be a bit more brainy than monkeys.....so a spear hunting ???Just facinating Thankyou for sharing this Karlis Thanks B??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Amethyst Posted June 13, 2009 #4 Share Posted June 13, 2009 This is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted June 13, 2009 #5 Share Posted June 13, 2009 evolution at work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted June 13, 2009 #6 Share Posted June 13, 2009 (IP: Staff) · I wonder if he managed to spear one Good article Karlis....thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormalcy Posted June 14, 2009 #7 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Dammit to hell I have been preaching this for freaking years! I've seen documentaries and read about primates using sticks to probe into termite mounds and trees, using human-like "flushing" hunting techniques on *other primates* then eating them, wild primates that hang out at a lake with humans and help wash clothes and dishes *with soap* in exchange for fish, and a few that have even been taught martial arts! I for one welcome our new hairy, knuckle-dragging, super-strength overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsnmbr1 Posted June 14, 2009 #8 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Hunting fish with spears? That's mere mechanical work. Some work as librarians. Ha! I love it. I remember I laughed so hard when I first read about the librarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted June 14, 2009 #9 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I refuse to believe any of this until our in house expert Mattshark, better known as one half of the duo, of itchy and scratchy. confirms it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueguardian Posted June 14, 2009 #10 Share Posted June 14, 2009 They'll be building swords and castles next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieChecker Posted June 14, 2009 #11 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Psyche101 post a pic of an orangutan spear fishing, to prove some point of his, about a month ago. Huh... Oh. The article is dated April 09 so I guess that meshes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 14, 2009 #12 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I wonder if he managed to spear one Good article Karlis....thank you. They said he was able to spear one in a net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Buzzkill Posted June 15, 2009 #13 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I thought baboons with clubs were used to help the equivilant of the police in ancient eygpt. So using weapons is not limited to orangutans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentsinger Posted June 15, 2009 #14 Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) This thing seems a bit fishy to me (sorry for the bad pun lol), where did it get such a straigth spear? I am not saying that the picture is faked, and not saying orangutans arent smart... but most likely its a tame orangutan that have been tought to do this, and not a wild one that learned it by itself. Edit: And the article does state its a rehabilitated orangutan, so has problebly learned it from humans somewhere. Edited June 15, 2009 by mutationman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted June 15, 2009 #15 Share Posted June 15, 2009 The article does state that the orangutan observed humans spear fishing, then tried to mimic it. Unfortunately, it seems that accurately thrusting a spear is yet to come. Reminds me of that article about the wild dolphin that was brought to a sea park for rehabilitation, and upon it's release, was observed waterwalking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 15, 2009 #16 Share Posted June 15, 2009 The article does state that the orangutan observed humans spear fishing, then tried to mimic it. Unfortunately, it seems that accurately thrusting a spear is yet to come. Reminds me of that article about the wild dolphin that was brought to a sea park for rehabilitation, and upon it's release, was observed waterwalking. question who on here can spear a fish. I can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac E Posted June 15, 2009 #17 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Dammit to hell I have been preaching this for freaking years! I've seen documentaries and read about primates using sticks to probe into termite mounds and trees, using human-like "flushing" hunting techniques on *other primates* then eating them, wild primates that hang out at a lake with humans and help wash clothes and dishes *with soap* in exchange for fish, and a few that have even been taught martial arts! I for one welcome our new hairy, knuckle-dragging, super-strength overlords. That is good! This means we will not need robots to do all of our lower level work for us in the future, thus removing the threat of a robot apocalypse. Now all we have to worry about is a planet of the apes scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted June 15, 2009 #18 Share Posted June 15, 2009 question who on here can spear a fish. I can't It takes some skill. And it helps to understand the concept of refraction. But I think the primary problem was the lack of fine motor control to keep the spear straight while thrusting. The orangutan was more swatting the water with the pole than actually spear fishing. He did a lot better with the non-moving targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 15, 2009 #19 Share Posted June 15, 2009 It takes some skill. And it helps to understand the concept of refraction. But I think the primary problem was the lack of fine motor control to keep the spear straight while thrusting. The orangutan was more swatting the water with the pole than actually spear fishing. He did a lot better with the non-moving targets. The article said that he was able to spear a fish in a net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted June 15, 2009 #20 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Like I said, he was able to do a lot better with a non-moving target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 15, 2009 #21 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Like I said, he was able to do a lot better with a non-moving target. first you have to learn how to use a spear then you have to learn how to spear a fish. we know how to use a spear not because we have used one but because we have seen them in use or told how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted June 15, 2009 #22 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Probably. Not sure where you're going with this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielost Posted June 15, 2009 #23 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Probably. Not sure where you're going with this... just that in a couple of years he will probable be as good a fisherman as any humans he has watched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted June 15, 2009 #24 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Maybe. I'm still not sure if the orangutan is physically capable of thrusting a spear. It may take more motor control than it has available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: Posted June 17, 2009 #25 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Although fascinating, I don't think the Orangutan would have behaved this way if he/she hadn't seen a human doing it. As the old saying goes: "Monkey see, monkey do." If anything seeing this squirrel in action just to get a peanut is more amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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