Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #101 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I can. I would be disgusted by a family member that betrayed a person to this degree. While I would be absolutely outraged that she had been killed I would be even more outraged at the betrayal perpetuated by my family member. I would be ashamed that she had misled someone to such a degree and feel horrified that the man felt so devastated that he had killed her and tried to commit suicide. I would be angry at my family member for doing something so utterly immoral. So you are saying you would be horrorfied if he killed a family member of yours because your family member lied? wow thats isnt exactly loving of you .....for the question proposed to atom was ........if that transsexual was a family memver he loved and was KILLED......due to a lie........how would he feel then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom286 Posted June 28, 2009 #102 Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) So you are saying you would be horrorfied if he killed a family member of yours because your family member lied? wow thats isnt exactly loving of you .....for the question proposed to atom was ........if that transsexual was a family memver he loved and was KILLED......due to a lie........how would he feel then? Again I cant answer this without getting in trouble. Edited June 28, 2009 by atom286 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #103 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Yes. And I don't blame him for it because as you said, he had issues serious enough to seek professional help, that is how damaging this lie was. It is inexcusable that she didn't tell him. To you think him killing was excusable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #104 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I would feel quite happy. OMG.............you would feel quite happy knowing that the girl murdered was your family member? WOW that is so wrong and immoral..........good lord.........I have seen it all now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexler Posted June 28, 2009 #105 Share Posted June 28, 2009 To you think him killing was excusable? If we are using not guilty by reason of insanity. No killing is "excusable" to me. You are playing semantics wording the words just so. I'm saying I would find him not guilty by reason of insanity, in a court of law. I don't think anyone is saying that it was "excusable" but that the entire situation is a tragedy caused by the woman who lied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom286 Posted June 28, 2009 #106 Share Posted June 28, 2009 OMG.............you would feel quite happy knowing that the girl murdered was your family member? WOW that is so wrong and immoral..........good lord.........I have seen it all now How did ou do that? I never wrote such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #107 Share Posted June 28, 2009 If we are using not guilty by reason of insanity. No killing is "excusable" to me. You are playing semantics wording the words just so. I'm saying I would find him not guilty by reason of insanity, in a court of law. I don't think anyone is saying that it was "excusable" but that the entire situation is a tragedy caused by the woman who lied. If NO killing is excusable.....then why are you forever going on about how she lied? he did not need to kill her PERIOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #108 Share Posted June 28, 2009 How did ou do that? I never wrote such a thing. Now there is a lie LOL you sure did and you made a fast edit Again I cant answer this without getting in trouble. This post has been edited by atom286: Today, 10:52 PM <-----------I scrolled back and look eee here you edited it LMAO..... nice try atom...lies are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom286 Posted June 28, 2009 #109 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Now there is a lie LOL you sure did and you made a fast edit Again I cant answer this without getting in trouble. This post has been edited by atom286: Today, 10:52 PM <-----------I scrolled back and look eee here you edited it LMAO..... nice try atom...lies are bad Not as bad as the transexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #110 Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) Not as bad as the transexuals. But I could see how you lied about a post....you went in and edited it I saw it LMAO...it took you 9 mins to make the edit LOL for you know you said you would be happy....it makes it look worse to lie and edit it out then claim you didnt LMAO ohh boy....... Edited June 28, 2009 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom286 Posted June 28, 2009 #111 Share Posted June 28, 2009 But I could see how you lied about a post....you went in and edited it I saw it LMAO ohh boy....... I didnt see anyhing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexler Posted June 28, 2009 #112 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Now there is a lie LOL you sure did and you made a fast edit Again I cant answer this without getting in trouble. This post has been edited by atom286: Today, 10:52 PM <-----------I scrolled back and look eee here you edited it LMAO..... nice try atom...lies are bad too bad I tell them all the time! You can certainly edit someone's post. I just did. That's one of the simplest things to do on the internet. You can also edit the time, date and year. As I did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom286 Posted June 28, 2009 #113 Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) lol. Edited June 28, 2009 by atom286 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #114 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I didnt see anyhing. It took you 9 mins from when you made the post...read my post and then scrolled back to make the edit....atom you know I am right on that...so please spare me LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #115 Share Posted June 28, 2009 You can certainly edit someone's post. I just did. That's one of the simplest things to do on the internet. You can also edit the time, date and year. As I did as well. Go to post 102.........read the time at the top of the post when he posted it 1st......then look at the bottom where it reads this post was edited............you will see a 9 min gap between the 2 times slots.............now explain how anyone on this site can mess with the edit times scales? how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexler Posted June 28, 2009 #116 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Yes he edited it to put in the asteriks. It always said CENSORED. He just added the asteriks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 28, 2009 #117 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Yes he edited it to put in the asteriks. It always said CENSORED. He just added the asteriks. He totally changed his post.and he knows it and finds it all funny anyhoo this is OFF TOPIC Back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skeptic Eric Raven Posted June 28, 2009 #118 Share Posted June 28, 2009 He is a murderer plain and simple. No execuses, BUT I would be pretty p***ed if I found out I was dating a male. It would screw me up in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted June 28, 2009 #119 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'm secure in my masculinity, I'd sleep with a woman, who used to be a man. Although I expect a discount, I'm not paying full whack again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 29, 2009 #120 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I'm secure in my masculinity, I'd sleep with a woman, who used to be a man. Although I expect a discount, I'm not paying full whack again. Ohh way too funny........love your humour as always Bill LMAO......that would make a great joke actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted June 29, 2009 #121 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Now if you do not mind.......try explaining HOW it is a form of rape? It's a violation of himself. That's rape. How is it not rape? BS. Killing someone because your insecure ? no excuse. She put herself to get left , sued even ... but not killed. so you advocate murder ? so if you were dating a woman that was cheating on you ? would you kill her ? Can you explain how he's insecure? Heterosexual men don't have sex with other men to feel secure in their sexuality... However the hell you got that crazy idea, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 29, 2009 #122 Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) It's a violation of himself. That's rape. How is it not rape? As far as I am concerned the only real thing that got to him.was the idea of him sleeping with what he thought was a girl and in reality was a male from birth <---the idea of sleeping with a man turned hum off and messed him up because he so never ever saw himself ever doing that....and for all we know has a thing aganst gays....so he claims he was violated......still dont make that rape...the only thing he was a victim of was a lie..he is guilty of murder one!!.....I view rape completely differently... Besides rape is only rape if one party doesnt give his or her consent.................AND technacially it was a female by science (as it was science that corrected the persons body making it female) My question is..how the heck did he not notice her adams apple? Edited June 29, 2009 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted June 29, 2009 #123 Share Posted June 29, 2009 As far as I am concerned the only real thing that got to him.was the idea of him sleeping with what he thought was a girl and in reality was a male from birth <---the idea of sleeping with a man turned hum off and messed him up because he so never ever saw himself ever doing that....and for all we know has a thing aganst gays....so he claims he was violated......still dont make that rape...the only thing he was a victim of was a lie..he is guilty of murder one!!.....I view rape completely differently... Besides rape is only rape if one party doesnt give his or her consent.................AND technacially it was a female by science (as it was science that corrected the persons body making it female) My question is..how the heck did he not notice her adams apple? It wasn't informed consent, she lied to him. That's a violation. He didn't even claim he was violated...that's implied by his own suicide attempt. When a female rape victim can't handle it, she's given pity but this guy is treated like crap by the people in this threat. Sexist views is what I see. Adams apple isn't limited to guys... Many women have them. It all depends on your body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted June 29, 2009 #124 Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) It wasn't informed consent, she lied to him. That's a violation. He didn't even claim he was violated...that's implied by his own suicide attempt. When a female rape victim can't handle it, she's given pity but this guy is treated like crap by the people in this threat. Sexist views is what I see. Adams apple isn't limited to guys... Many women have them. It all depends on your body. Question did he attempt before it or after it? to kill himself.......if it were before.why didnt he seek help? he could have sued her too .................ohh I dunno.........anyhoo he is still now a murderer...he just made matters for himself a lot worse.... As for informed consent..she by science...was female..it was science that made it possible with the corrective surgery...had the body and mind of a female Edited June 29, 2009 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted June 29, 2009 #125 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Question did he attempt before it or after it? to kill himself.......if it were before.why didnt he seek help? he could have sued her too .................ohh I dunno.........anyhoo he is still now a murderer...he just made matters for himself a lot worse.... As for informed consent..she by science...was female..it was science that made it possible with the corrective surgery...had the body and mind of a female After. I don't consider killing your rapist as murder. I consider that justice. Umm, no she is not. No matter how much they want to try to do it, she would have never been truly female. She was still a man by birth. It's sad that people are born into the wrong body but you can't ignore the biological facts that she had a y chromosome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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