+HerNibs Posted July 9, 2009 #526 Share Posted July 9, 2009 No I didn't sidestep anything. I said that I do not accept as a premise any ridiculous thing that you think people would vote for. I find it to be a ridiculous that you can claim that as a serious issue. Why? I find that you thinking WE THE PEOPLE can vote the limitations of right to a section of the human beings in our country ridiculous and offensive. My statement is just an illustration of how ridiculous and narrowminded your stance on it is. You're non answer is telling. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #527 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Did you even suggest you were a father? when I said it doesnt look like you were a father due to your horrid statement on it has nothing to do with loving a child did you even remotely try and defend this by stating you are a father? NOPE and she-ra I believe asked you this... It isn't any of your business whether or not I am a father in regards to this discusion. As I said loving a child has nothing to do with this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted July 9, 2009 #528 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Yes again why dont you pat yourself on the back because you think that you are the only one who is making serious points that would stand up in a formal debate. You really make me laugh with your arrogance. Im streets ahead of you mate...because I read other posts over...and If I make a post claiming certain things.....and someone posts up a big fat FACT...<-----------I do not read it and go WHATEVER.........how in the world makes that mature is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #529 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Why? I find that you thinking WE THE PEOPLE can vote the limitations of right to a section of the human beings in our country ridiculous and offensive. My statement is just an illustration of how ridiculous and narrowminded your stance on it is. You're non answer is telling. Nibs The point you continually seem to ignore is that we are voting on a type of behavior and not on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #530 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Im streets ahead of you mate...because I read other posts over...and If I make a post claiming certain things.....and someone posts up a big fat FACT...<-----------I do not read it and go WHATEVER.........how in the world makes that mature is a joke You haven't posted any facts. You posted studies. I also posted a study back to you. You seem to want to play games. You even claimed that you can post 3 times as many studies as I can. So what? As I said none of these studies claim to prove anything. They only claim "maybe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted July 9, 2009 #531 Share Posted July 9, 2009 It isn't any of your business whether or not I am a father in regards to this discusion. As I said loving a child has nothing to do with this discussion. Put it this way.if you thought my post was cockey assumming you were not a father......just to rub my face in it.ohh yea, you would have made sure I saw you were a father......... And you claim loving a child has NOTHING to do with this thread? ha ha yet you find that talking about gays being wrong has? Dude listen up....the thread is about how one man found out his partner was a transexual.and he MURDERED HER <---------------that.is what the thread is about mate So care to step back on topic and answer me this......... Did she deserve to be murdered? If so, explain how her muder can be justified?.......................Key words being IF SO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted July 9, 2009 #532 Share Posted July 9, 2009 The point you continually seem to ignore is that we are voting on a type of behavior and not on people. No, I'm not ignoring it at all. What I am saying is that the behavior is not illegal, doesn't prevent them from voting, doesn't prevent them from getting a licesne or holding office in many states. WE THE PEOPLE have no issue with collecting taxes from them or anything else. So it appears that disallowing a section of the citizens the same rights you have based on a non-illegal "behavior" (using your phrase) is just as ridiculous as denying a woman with bottle blond hair the right to drive. Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted July 9, 2009 #533 Share Posted July 9, 2009 You haven't posted any facts. You posted studies. I posted up a FACT on Iraq, on how their culture is against gays and how they STILL HANG GAYS <----your big reply to this fact was..........WHATEVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #534 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Put it this way.if you thought my post was cockey assumming you were not a father......just to rub my face in it.ohh yea, you would have made sure I saw you were a father......... And you claim loving a child has NOTHING to do with this thread? ha ha yet you find that talking about gays being wrong has? Dude listen up....the thread is about how one man found out his partner was a transexual.and he MURDERED HER <---------------that.is what the thread is about mate So care to step back on topic and answer me this......... Did she deserve to be murdered? If so, explain how her muder can be justified?.......................Key words being IF SO Did she? Sorry but it was a he. But I will still answer your question about his murder. Absolutely no. The transexual did not deserve to be murdered for his lies about his gender. This man did lie about his true gender and it is not suprising that he got murdered for lying about his gender to another man but still he should not have been murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #535 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I posted up a FACT on Iraq, on how their culture is against gays and how they STILL HANG GAYS <----your big reply to this fact was..........WHATEVER No that is not what my 'whatever' response was about. It was about the other junk that you claim to be true when it is not. I think if you read back you could see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted July 9, 2009 #536 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Did she? Sorry but it was a he. But I will still answer your question about his murder. Absolutely no. The transexual did not deserve to be murdered for his lies about his gender. This man did lie about his true gender and it is not suprising that he got murdered for lying about his gender to another man but still he should not have been murdered. She didnt deserve to be killed for it.............many men and women lie to people...even pretend they are not married, get someone pregnant, and when the woman finds out she was greatly decieved by her man being married with kids the whole time.....it can cause a LOT of damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #537 Share Posted July 9, 2009 No, I'm not ignoring it at all. What I am saying is that the behavior is not illegal, doesn't prevent them from voting, doesn't prevent them from getting a licesne or holding office in many states. WE THE PEOPLE have no issue with collecting taxes from them or anything else. So it appears that disallowing a section of the citizens the same rights you have based on a non-illegal "behavior" (using your phrase) is just as ridiculous as denying a woman with bottle blond hair the right to drive. Nibs So then you have no problem with letting "We the People" legislate in regards to this type of behavior any way we see fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted July 9, 2009 #538 Share Posted July 9, 2009 She didnt deserve to be killed for it.............many men and women lie to people...even pretend they are not married, get someone pregnant, and when the woman finds out she was greatly decieved by her man being married with kids the whole time.....it can cause a LOT of damage Yes. I have already conceded that point. The transgendered man did not deserve to be murdered for lying about his gender to another man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted July 9, 2009 #539 Share Posted July 9, 2009 As this thread has been cleaned up three times because of hostility and flaming I think it time to close it down and put it to rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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