questionmark Posted July 16, 2009 #1 Share Posted July 16, 2009 From Times Online July 16, 2009 Murder rate at its lowest for 20 years Richard Ford Murders in England and Wales have fallen to their lowest level for 20 years, according to official crime figures published today. The number of killings fell 17 per cent by 136 to 648 in the year to the end of March. Attempted murders also fell according to the annual crime figures for 2008-09, which overall showed that the level of crime remains broadly stable. However, there are signs that the recession is starting to have an effect, with increases in domestic burglary, shoplifting, pickpocketing and handbag theft and a rise in fraud including credit card fraud. There was also a a 313 per cent increase to 818 in frauds by company directors, which may indicate that the squeeze is also being felt higher up the social scale. Overall, police-recorded crime fell by 5 per cent to 4.7 million offences while offending measured by the British Crime Survey, which interviewed people about their experience of crime, remained stable. Violence against the person involving an injury fell by seven per cent to 421,000 and incidents where no injury occurred fell by 5 per cent to 480,000. Sexual offences fell by 4 per cent to 51,000, but within that figure the number of rapes of women increased by 5 per cent to 12,000. More detailed figures on murders will be published in January next year but Chris Kershaw, a Home Office researcher, suggested that one reason why the number of murders is at its lowest level since 1989 is that medical advances have resulted in more victims of potentially fatal attacks being saved. He also suggested that a fall in the number of firearms offences was also behind the reduction in murders. Domestic burglaries recorded by police rose by one per cent to 284,000, the first increase in six years. But there were wide regional variations, with some areas experiencing rises in double figures. Full story, source: The Times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent X Posted July 16, 2009 #2 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) No. It's probably due to the UK being the most watched nation on earth with cameras on just about any street corner. This article is from 2006: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm Which states that: There are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people. And that was three years ago. Note: I do NOT support such a thing happening here in America. Edited July 16, 2009 by Agent X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted July 16, 2009 #3 Share Posted July 16, 2009 i don't believe government statistics. for the simple reason they don't reflect the reality of the situation on the ground. Gun crime round my way is on the increase. at least once a month someone gets shot usually in the knees or leg area. i guess serving as a warning. has for recorded crime half the time the police don't even turn up. the last time i was in need of police assistance it took them 1 hour to turn up. a bloody disgrace and their investigation was p*** poor, and i mean poor. anyone who watches the bill could have done better. This is the problem with governments. the Home office minister will sit at their desk read these statistics and then go on national Radio, TV etc. and defend these statistics to the hilt. because to them in the bubble the statistics are true and accurate. yet a five minute conversation with the populous will set them straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARAB0D Posted July 17, 2009 #4 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Come on, guys - this is a CRISIS. The crooks simply do not have money to buy ammo, hence the relaxation. Family comes first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted July 17, 2009 #5 Share Posted July 17, 2009 i don't believe government statistics. for the simple reason they don't reflect the reality of the situation on the ground. Gun crime round my way is on the increase. at least once a month someone gets shot usually in the knees or leg area. i guess serving as a warning. has for recorded crime half the time the police don't even turn up. the last time i was in need of police assistance it took them 1 hour to turn up. a bloody disgrace and their investigation was p*** poor, and i mean poor. anyone who watches the bill could have done better. This is the problem with governments. the Home office minister will sit at their desk read these statistics and then go on national Radio, TV etc. and defend these statistics to the hilt. because to them in the bubble the statistics are true and accurate. yet a five minute conversation with the populous will set them straight. Agreed. If the statistics pass through government hands, you can pretty much dissmiss them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted July 17, 2009 #6 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Suddenly, I feel safe again after reading that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway Posted July 17, 2009 #7 Share Posted July 17, 2009 people can't afford knives or guns from the black market, it's the credit crunch innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResearcher Posted July 17, 2009 #8 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Doesn't this just show that the police force are catching/finding out about less murders? Which isn't a very good thing ... People will always kill other people, be it with guns or with knives; there will always be something. As you can probably tell I'm against the gun ban, because it punished the majority who were responsible with guns at shooting clubs et cetera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted July 17, 2009 #9 Share Posted July 17, 2009 something like only 3% of crime is actually reported... taking this into account, statistics mean absolutely nothing. steve is correct. gun crime is rising in places like london, glasgow and especially liverpool and the surrounding areas... but this isn't enough to create a total increase in it.. nowhere near it in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbarosso Posted July 17, 2009 #10 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Come on, guys - this is a CRISIS. The crooks simply do not have money to buy ammo, hence the relaxation. Family comes first! lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted July 17, 2009 #11 Share Posted July 17, 2009 The same survey shows that almost every other crime figure has risen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted July 17, 2009 #12 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Gun ban? What a spin. But point taken, if we had easier access to guns in the UK, I'm sure the gun crime figures would increase.. And I think, we all know who would be boosting those figures up. I like the way they've spilt street crime into robbery with or without violence. So the without violence 'meaning the victim didn't resist' can be lump with credit card fraud. ah HAAAAA HA Yep, yep very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted July 17, 2009 #13 Share Posted July 17, 2009 It has nothing whatsoever to do with the ban on hand gun ownership, criminals didn't have licences so a ban was completely irrelevant to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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