questionmark Posted August 13, 2009 #1 Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Germany and France have become the first of the major G7 powers to emerge from the Great Recession of 2008-2009, surprising markets with growth of 0.3pc in the second quarter.Read more... hmmm... who was saying that the US would be first out of recession because it started there? Edited August 13, 2009 by questionmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Danger Posted August 13, 2009 #2 Share Posted August 13, 2009 well done to germany and france. it doesnt suprise me that britain hasn't got out of this recession yet. but i think it's about time britain does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudo Intellectual Posted August 13, 2009 #3 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Yay conservatism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted August 13, 2009 #4 Share Posted August 13, 2009 this is a bit premature is it not? can't really comment much on it though as i don't have time to read the article. i still think there's a way to go yet before europe pulls itself out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted August 13, 2009 #5 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I'm not surprised Germany have gotten out of the recession first. Heck, they've been in TWO (the first one was the worst for them) in just over half a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted August 13, 2009 #6 Share Posted August 13, 2009 so how did this happen? People get together round a table and decare simply we are out of the recession But we will make england last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Danger Posted August 13, 2009 #7 Share Posted August 13, 2009 But we will make england last *cough* england AND wales thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted August 13, 2009 #8 Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) *cough* england AND wales thank you very much and scotland! bastrds! Edited August 13, 2009 by expandmymind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Danger Posted August 13, 2009 #9 Share Posted August 13, 2009 and scotland!bastrds! you got your own currency! you can get out of it yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted August 13, 2009 #10 Share Posted August 13, 2009 you got your own currency!you can get out of it yourself! Unfortunatly, it's still one Scottish pound to the English pound . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted August 13, 2009 #11 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Yes, & you know what'll be coming out of the mouths of our polititians next, something along the lines of...........''if only we switched to the euro...blah blah blah...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted August 13, 2009 #12 Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Unfortunatly, it's still one Scottish pound to the English pound . unfortunately!?! unfortunately!?! seriously i would love to know how a 0.3% rise could be seen as germany and france pulling themselves out of this? could this just be a false reading, so to speak, as a result of stimulus'? and itsnotoutthere, you've hit the nail on the head right there. that's exactly what they'll be saying... and what they'll be pushing for even more heavily than they have. Edited August 13, 2009 by expandmymind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted August 14, 2009 #13 Share Posted August 14, 2009 and scotland!bastrds! sorry, but don't apologise to the dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted August 14, 2009 #14 Share Posted August 14, 2009 The Europhiles are all over this story like flies around ****. what a utter crap, yet again the media sensationalise what is a none event, its not even 1%. you wouldn't even write home about it. Italy Spain, Greece and all the other mickey mouse countries Latvia, Slovenia, Slovakia, in the Euro are all still slipping down the slope with the rest of the turds. We need to get things into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted August 14, 2009 #15 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I don't mean this to be offensive, but these Nazi's and garlic eating frogs (that's code), have really taken things too far this time... Too far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted August 14, 2009 #16 Share Posted August 14, 2009 unfortunately!?! unfortunately!?! If it was higher, I'd be asking to be paid in Scottish pounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 14, 2009 #17 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Who read the entire article? [Germany's economy minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said it was too early to tell whether the recovery is firmly entrenched given the surge in unemployment expected over the next year. "There are no grounds for euphoria. It is going to be a long slog to get our economy back to the level it was at last year." Germany's economy suffered a cliff-fall over the Winter as world demand for cars and industrial machines collapsed. Output is still down 5.9pc from a year ago. Officials are concerned that the economy may stall later this year as companies exhaust a scheme known as Kurzarbeit that pays them to keep idle workers on their books. The key German institutes expect unemployment to rise another million to 4.5m by late 2010.] ------------------- They talk about recovery... when people are still losing there jobs this does not mean recession recovery.... 'If' and 'when' unemployment begins to go down then it will mean jobs are being created and there is recovery.. Next they're going to be showing boosts in stock market at GDP levels and they're going to call it "A Jobless Recovery".... that's like calling somebody 'half-pregnant'. ...without creation of jobs there is NO recovery. ---2-3 weeks back the Canadian federal government announced the recession over in Canada..... To me and many who are paying attention to rising un-employment levels and record breaking bankruptcies this is not the time for false and dis-honest information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted August 14, 2009 #18 Share Posted August 14, 2009 (edited) When people lose everything and they have nothing left to lose... they lose it.. and people are one job away from losing everything --Gerald Celente Edited August 14, 2009 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted August 14, 2009 #19 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Well I personally think it's too soon to declare everything is fine but this is without a doubt good news. So what ever happened to the collapse of Western civilization that some members believed was going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted August 14, 2009 Author #20 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Well I personally think it's too soon to declare everything is fine but this is without a doubt good news.So what ever happened to the collapse of Western civilization that some members believed was going to happen? Western civilization will not collapse...but I would not be surprised if its power center would shift a little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowdy Posted August 15, 2009 #21 Share Posted August 15, 2009 notice one thing about those 2 countries - they didn't waste hundreds of billion of dollars fighting the Iraq and Afgan war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted August 15, 2009 #22 Share Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) notice one thing about those 2 countries - they didn't waste hundreds of billion of dollars fighting the Iraq and Afgan war Also they didn't tie in their economies to the financial sector as much as say the UK or the US. Western civilization will not collapse...but I would not be surprised if its power center would shift a little... Its power centre might shift!. i hope you don't mean a power shift towards the EuroZone. because if you do your living in hope. Edited August 15, 2009 by stevewinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted August 15, 2009 Author #23 Share Posted August 15, 2009 notice one thing about those 2 countries - they didn't waste hundreds of billion of dollars fighting the Iraq and Afgan war No, they did not pass out "recovery plans" with the hose method and hardly wasted any money in saving banks (compared to the US and Britain). The employment continuation programs, where an employer can opt for reducing work to less time and the government pays the difference instead of firing also helps (and comes cheaper than having people on the dole). And yes, both countries are wasting billons fighting in Afghanistan, in Kosovo, Congo and so on. That is not the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Farmer Posted August 16, 2009 #24 Share Posted August 16, 2009 The master plan unfolding for the Western economies is as follows: 1. Export all the manufacturing jobs to countries where labour is cheap and regulation can be circumvented (India, China, The Phillipines etc.) 2. Dirty up the environments in those countires and reintroduce the old Victorian child labour (murder) practices. 3. Back in the west, put all agricultural production in the hands of the mega corporations and further divorce people from the land. 4. Encourage the governments and the people in the west to become debtors and therefore debt slaves. 5. Temporarily prop up these false, making nothing economies with a bubble of weird and unfathomable debt instruments whilst you pick them clean. 6. When the **** hits the fan, let the people think that recovery is coming so that you can fleece them still further.(Now) 7. Then crash their economies. They'll have nothing to sell, nothing to eat, their cureencies will become valueless. 8. Institute the third world war as a cruel distraction, to begin in September 09 with a false flag attack on Jerusalem of some size, blamed on Iran. 9. Add to the fear with a nice pandemic, offer a solution of a poison vaccine. 10. Watch as the world falls into a time of butchery and carnage never before witnessed. Then pick up the pieces with your new slave world government, your new world currency which you lend to the new world government, et voila! Robert est son Oncle! Such is the thumbnail guide to the history we are living through. Want to do it differently? Join the family of humanity http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted August 16, 2009 #25 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Join the family of humanity http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com Great, can I come over and live on your Olive farm? The NWO believes in land ownership, we don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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