Alienated Being Posted October 12, 2009 #1 Share Posted October 12, 2009 There are quite a few ancient references to "space men", depictions of rockets in hieroglyphic form, pictures of people dressed in space suits... so I must ask, do you really think that ETs created the pyramids? It has always been theorized that the blocks of the pyramids were much too heavy for individuals to actually lift and carry to such great heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 12, 2009 #2 Share Posted October 12, 2009 See here: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=133772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortie Posted October 12, 2009 #3 Share Posted October 12, 2009 There are quite a few ancient references to "space men", depictions of rockets in hieroglyphic form, pictures of people dressed in space suits... so I must ask, do you really think that ETs created the pyramids? It has always been theorized that the blocks of the pyramids were much too heavy for individuals to actually lift and carry to such great heights. I think theres an awful lot of ancient culture that refer to "aliens" or "gods" or higher races. Mayans have A LOT of referral to that, ancient peru, easter island, i mean theres tons. It shouldnt be rules ot a possiblilty, the pyramids would have been extremely tough to build with the technolgy they used. Could they... sure, but dang, why? Too tough. Even today we have high ranked witnesses, pilots, military even astronauts, famous killin their reputations. I dont know for sure, but very possible, seems easier for sure. I watched a Dan Akroyd film on aliens and was amazing, very credible and believable. "they are here, we just need to deal with it" is the theme, what an extrodinary day that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyB Posted October 12, 2009 #4 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The aliens either built the pyramids all by themselves or with very little human help. It would be absolutely impossible to build the Great Pyramid today. Not only does it have an incredible number of 50 ton blocks of stone on the outside, it's got some a lot bigger than that on the inside. The limestone casing left on the outside is fitted together so close, you can't stick a razor blade between any 2 blocks. It was built before 10,000 BC. IMHO, Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 12, 2009 #5 Share Posted October 12, 2009 First, there's a lengthy thread on this already. Secondly, not being able to stick a raxor blade between the blocks isn't a incredible feet. Third, they could then, and we can now, move the blocks and build them. Kee in mind, the great Pyramids are the last in a chain of pyramids leading up the them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted October 12, 2009 #6 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) If aliens built the pyramids, why didn't they do a better job? Looking at the older pyramids it appears that the aliens had issues with structure and simple angles. Looks like it took a bunch of practice to get it right. Oh, and why did the aliens have to make humans do all the hard work? The aliens flew here...couldn't they have done much of the building without having those poor workers break their backs? Another thing...why? Intergalactic aliens build pyramids on a backwater, non-technological planet? Why? Nibs Edited October 12, 2009 by HerNibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 12, 2009 #7 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) This has been discussed at length and neither side is happy with any of the answers from the other side. The scientific fact is that the pyramids could have been built using only men, sand and ropes. Much larger blocks have been moved in just the same way within the last hundred years. It is only a matter of applying the manpower to the block. The only argument is what method the ancient Egyptians used and how long it took. Edited October 12, 2009 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 12, 2009 #8 Share Posted October 12, 2009 If aliens built the pyramids, why didn't they do a better job? Looking at the older pyramids it appears that the aliens had issues with structure and simple angles. Looks like it took a bunch of practice to get it right. Oh, and why did the aliens have to make humans do all the hard work? The aliens flew here...couldn't they have done much of the building without having those poor workers break their backs? Another thing...why? Intergalactic aliens build pyramids on a backwater, non-technological planet? Why? Nibs See, they really wanted to do a better job... but the Nibblers forgot their ACME super build it all machine at home and had to borrow some bronze chisels and wood mallets from the locals. Then they discovered they had left the ACME super levitation machine at home too and had to buy some slaves... naturally there was a steep learning curve involved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HerNibs Posted October 12, 2009 #9 Share Posted October 12, 2009 See, they really wanted to do a better job... but the Nibblers forgot their ACME super build it all machine at home and had to borrow some bronze chisels and wood mallets from the locals. Then they discovered they had left the ACME super levitation machine at home too and had to buy some slaves... naturally there was a steep learning curve involved... DAMN THOSE NIBBLERS!!! Nibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted October 12, 2009 #10 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The aliens either built the pyramids all by themselves or with very little human help. What a weenie race of aliens. It would be absolutely impossible to build the Great Pyramid today. Technically true, but misleading. Today, the Great Pyramid could be designed by any first-year engineering student. The only obstacles would be financial and logistic. The actual construction would be relatively simple work. Not only does it have an incredible number of 50 ton blocks of stone on the outside, it's got some a lot bigger than that on the inside. False. The heaviest stones in the pyramid are the 40 ton lintels in the relieving chamber above the Kings Chamber. The outer infrastructure blocks weigh an average of two tons. The casing stones would have been lighter than that, to keep from sliding down the side of the pyramid.. The limestone casing left on the outside is fitted together so close, you can't stick a razor blade between any 2 blocks. That's true. The limestone was very well finished, with the same masonry technology that was so simple it was discovered all around the world by multiple civilizations. The reason why you can't get a razor blade in there though, isn't so much because of the finish, as it is because of the stones fusing together over the millenia. It was built before 10,000 BC. IMHO, Kenny A heck of an opinion based on incorrect information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 12, 2009 #11 Share Posted October 12, 2009 This has been discussed at length and neither side is happy with any of the answers from the other side. The scientific fact is that the pyramids could have been built using only men, sand and ropes. Much larger blocks have been moved in just the same way within the last hundred years. It is only a matter of applying the manpower to the block. The only argument is what method the ancient Egyptians used and how long it took. Dang. I wanted to agree with everyone in this thread. I don't believe there has been an answer at all from the orthodox camp concerning the many mysteries and the lack of evidence for ramps. Science has established beyond any measure of refute that the only pos- sible means to build the great pyramids were with ramps. One day some- one looked up and said "damn, that's big; they mustta used ramps since there's no other primitive technology". Well we're stuck with it now and nothing is put forward seriously except ramps. Unfortunately ramps as a means of lifting stone on the pyramid has been wholly debunked and proof cited. This leaces only alienn technology. This isn't rocket science. If ramps were the only possible means and the great pyramids do exist and ramps are disproven then it simply follows it had to be aliens as there was no other advanced technology on the planet. Like the guy said when he first saw ramps, "Duh". The existence of aliens is even supported by the words of the builders. How else to explain the ships that flew with the sun and even traveled to the stars. It appears hey even worshipped these aliens and gave them names like Osiris or Thot. The tomb of the alien captain is even at Giza. I'd guess it was the biggest of all the pyramids which they called G1. This was the alien known as Osiris/ Seker/ Khufu. He was Osiris on the ground but when he got in his spaceship that was named the []nw-boat he was called Seker. It would seem that "Seker" is alien for captain. He was chief of "pdws" so this was the name of his boat. When he died it was alien custom to remove his name and just call him "corpse". Khufu is alien for corpse and he rots as to his lenght, girth, and width. It's all pretty simple if you just look at the known facts and read the Pyramid Texts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 12, 2009 #12 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Just wondering all this talk of aliens and such, if they were around in them times(as if they are now) When Kepler,Copernicus,Tycho,s painstaking observations of fixed stars and even Diggs, were looking up at the heavens between the 1500 and the 1600.Surely if they would have seen some sort of ''craft'' they would have wrote about it ,no? Like Tycho and diggs spend there whole lives looking up Edited October 12, 2009 by danydandan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 12, 2009 #13 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Just wondering all this talk of aliens and such, if they were around in them times(as if they are now) When Kepler,Copernicus,Tycho,s painstaking observations of fixed stars and even Diggs, were looking up at the heavens between the 1500 and the 1600.Surely if they would have seen some sort of ''craft'' they would have wrote about it ,no? L Hmmm... if you see that dot going by that is the ISS, do you think about ISS or shooting star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 12, 2009 #14 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hmmm... if you see that dot going by that is the ISS, do you think about ISS or shooting star? A telescope would sort that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 12, 2009 #15 Share Posted October 12, 2009 A telescope would sort that out If you have a vague idea what a star/planet looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted October 12, 2009 #16 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think that humans did create the pyramids but with help from outside sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 12, 2009 #17 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I think that humans did create the pyramids but with help from outside sources. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted October 12, 2009 #18 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Just wondering all this talk of aliens and such, if they were around in them times(as if they are now) When Kepler,Copernicus,Tycho,s painstaking observations of fixed stars and even Diggs, were looking up at the heavens between the 1500 and the 1600.Surely if they would have seen some sort of ''craft'' they would have wrote about it ,no? Like Tycho and diggs spend there whole lives looking up Common sense would seem to say so, but you forget that the Vague Society of Nebulous Meanies has actively been covering up such things for pointlessly vague but nevertheless nefarious reasons for centuries, maybe even millennia, so nothing that you ever learned was true and common sense is a positive detriment in understanding anything. Your best hope is repeatedly beat yourself over the head with a large stick until you believe anything anyone tells you. Except the people telling you what not to believe. On a more serious note, I'm not aware of any legitimate mythical tradition describing their gods as "space aliens". That usually takes somebody that both lacks an education in the traditions and conventions of whatever society they claim to speak for and possess a book they want to sell to you. --Jaylemurph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 12, 2009 #19 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Why? I'm not trying to answer for Stevemagegod but will for myself. The pyramids were built 4800 years ago which was well before modern inventions and all the things we take for granted. They were built on an unimaginable scale to a perfection that would still be difficult to duplicate. They were built by a people who were still developing the rudiments of farming and simple food storage. They were built at tremendous cost by people who couldn't even farm during the peak growing season because their crops were underwater. They were built by a people who not only needed to generate 55 HP but to apply it in a single location for two decades. There has been no proposal forthcoming how this kind of work can be applied to the task by primitive people. Looking at the pyramid and saying it's there so the primitives must have built it is a non sequitor. Ascribing means without evidence or contradictory to the extent evidence is unscientific and probab- ly in error. We can believe primitives toiled in the blistering desert heat drag- ging stones up ramps that couldn't habve been there while their fam- ilies and lives were at risk or we can believe they had help. When it's observed that the "workmen's village" supported only 5000 permanent residents then it becomes a certainty they had help. It would likely take nearly 5000 men just to keep the quarries and ad- ministrative jobs filled. There's just no question they had help. The qustion os was the help from other Egyptians or was it something they invented. Was it native to this planet or a priest who could create ramps out of thin air. The simple way to answer all these questions is to figure out how the great pyramids were actually built. This means getting rid of ALL the preconcieved notions and looking at the EVIDENCE. This might mean di- reacting some RESEARCH or EXPERIMENTATION to gaiin more data. It might even mean diging in the sand to find more evidence of aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyB Posted October 12, 2009 #20 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dany, If any of the old astronomers had seen a spaceship the size of Texas, the last thing they would have done was go around talking about it. That would mean a quick trip to a stake and plenty of fire. Look what happened to Galileo. It's nearly that bad now. KennyB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 12, 2009 #21 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Dany, If any of the old astronomers had seen a spaceship the size of Texas, the last thing they would have done was go around talking about it. That would mean a quick trip to a stake and plenty of fire. Look what happened to Galileo. It's nearly that bad now. KennyB Crap, only those who never bothered to learn anything about Galileo can say that. Fact, as proven by his published letters, is that he was exchanging information with other astronomers, such as Keppler, even after the inquisition put him under house arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 12, 2009 #22 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Dany, If any of the old astronomers had seen a spaceship the size of Texas, the last thing they would have done was go around talking about it. That would mean a quick trip to a stake and plenty of fire. Look what happened to Galileo. It's nearly that bad now. KennyB Nothing happend to Galileo, Poor Bruno on the other hand , Now thats Bad So do some reading Edited October 12, 2009 by danydandan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number444 Posted October 12, 2009 #23 Share Posted October 12, 2009 The pyramids were built by an ancient humanoid race from Earth that acheived space flight before we even knew how to start a fire. They went out to explore space and now occasionally return to study our progress. So the answer is - no, aliens did not create the pyramids because they are not aliens; they are originally from Earth. As the body of the Sphinx suggests water damage by years of water flow, it was built in a time when Egypt was a jungle and we were still swinging from the trees by our tails. Back then - the head of the Sphinx was different - ancient human Egyptians had changed the head to appear as our human species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted October 13, 2009 #24 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Nothing happend to Galileo, Poor Bruno on the other hand , Now thats Bad So do some reading Yeh, but he did not get burned because of astronomy but because he denied the virginity of the Virgin Mary, did not agree with the teachings on the Trinity and last, but not least believing in metempsychosis and in the transmigration of the human soul into brutes. Besides, the guys the inquisition really wanted were Keppler, Mercator and Copernicus. The last was dead and the other two out of reach in Protestant lands, so in want of hitting the donkey they hit the sack on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted October 13, 2009 #25 Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) The pyramids were built by an ancient humanoid race from Earth that acheived space flight before we even knew how to start a fire. They went out to explore space and now occasionally return to study our progress. So the answer is - no, aliens did not create the pyramids because they are not aliens; they are originally from Earth. As the body of the Sphinx suggests water damage by years of water flow, it was built in a time when Egypt was a jungle and we were still swinging from the trees by our tails. Back then - the head of the Sphinx was different - ancient human Egyptians had changed the head to appear as our human species. Yeap i agree Evidence, it all adds up The people of this world are getting stupider and stupider Eventually all this stupid is gona mass together and create a black hole of stupidity which no enlightened thought can escape Edited October 13, 2009 by danydandan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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