SHaYap Posted February 22, 2013 #2101 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Maybe it was a typo. "...look up the huge Poles in north and south..." Harte That's a mighty fine way of putting Poles in the holes, even if in bold ..... Like to see you try your hand on this 'un Mr Harte ... The supposed huge holes don't actually exist. I believe he is referring to the ones reffered to by the hollow earth proponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted February 22, 2013 #2102 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The hollow Earth used to be a true concept but it all got filled in by debris taken away during the construction of the Panama Canal. Harte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted February 25, 2013 #2103 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Kmt, I told that I even dont know how to read Egyptian Hieroglyphs at all. I just conclude things on some people who can read them. Maybe they say that not realizing how much effort they put in that task in the first place. Every work on world is trivial in some sense. Even operation of brain is easy to well trained doctor. But to me is science fiction. Im sure you put much effort in learning it. Just maybe one day you will say as Champollion "You get better results if you dont think about it too much." Edited February 25, 2013 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted February 25, 2013 #2104 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Alas, except the holes in your view of the world, there are no holes to be found in the poles. Besides, Atlantis and the hollow earth bovine manure are two unrelated things. Was is an ancient text written by Plato, the other is excrement. That is not true Searcher... Most maps of the Hollow world will show Atlantis marked on it. Lots of fringies are still trying for the Unified Theory of everything weird, and putting Atlantis and Hollow world is a natural. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted February 25, 2013 #2105 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Our Flat, Hollow, Atlantean mind controlled, geyser powered, alien conspiracy world would not be in the shape it's in if the those meddling Illuminati had just left things alone and hadn't sent back their agent to the past with the 386 computer. Edited February 25, 2013 by Quaentum 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted February 28, 2013 #2106 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Our Flat, Hollow, Atlantean mind controlled, geyser powered, alien conspiracy world would not be in the shape it's in if the those meddling Illuminati had just left things alone and hadn't sent back their agent to the past with the 386 computer. Damn, that about sums it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted February 28, 2013 #2107 Share Posted February 28, 2013 ...if the Illuminati are giant, intelligent basset hounds from Space. Which, as it happens, they are. --Jaylemurph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted March 5, 2013 Author #2108 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Atlantis, as written and described by Plato, was not real. I Dont think this thread would get 141 Pages of debate if it wasn't real, or worth discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 5, 2013 #2109 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I Dont think this thread would get 141 Pages of debate if it wasn't real, or worth discussing. Well you know my take on it the only thing that relates to the Atlantis tale is the kings of Athens of the 1500 hundreds bc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 5, 2013 #2110 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I Dont think this thread would get 141 Pages of debate if it wasn't real, or worth discussing. That's not much of an argument. Case in point, the Oera Linda thread is 1000 or so pages long as STILL no one has shown it's original premise is an historical fact. The length of a thread has no bearing on its validity. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted March 5, 2013 Author #2111 Share Posted March 5, 2013 That's not much of an argument. Case in point, the Oera Linda thread is 1000 or so pages long as STILL no one has shown it's original premise is an historical fact. The length of a thread has no bearing on its validity. cormac Except that this thread has been around longer. And is in fact one of my most popular threads that i have started on the internet, and is still alive. I started this thread in like 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 5, 2013 #2112 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Except that this thread has been around longer. And is in fact one of my most popular threads that i have started on the internet, and is still alive. I started this thread in like 2008. It doesn't matter if it's been around longer it still doesn't make Atlantis real which is what you appeared to be implying in Post #2108. Discussing the validity or lack thereof of a subject, even over the long term, does not make it true. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted March 5, 2013 Author #2113 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) It doesn't matter if it's been around longer it still doesn't make Atlantis real which is what you appeared to be implying in Post #2108. Discussing the validity or lack thereof of a subject, even over the long term, does not make it true. cormac Even if it is real or not, i have been watching America Unearthed on the History Channel every Friday night and that show has rekindled my interest in Atlantis type Civilizations. And it just bugs me that there are so many unsolved anomalies right here in America. Edited March 5, 2013 by stevemagegod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted March 5, 2013 #2114 Share Posted March 5, 2013 That is not true Searcher... Most maps of the Hollow world will show Atlantis marked on it. Lots of fringies are still trying for the Unified Theory of everything weird, and putting Atlantis and Hollow world is a natural. Allow me to rephrase this then.....for people living in the real world.....etc etc. You get the drift though. At the beginning the two things were unrelated. If I recall correctly, Plato didn't mention the hollow earth..... Even if it is real or not, i have been watching America Unearthed on the History Channel every Friday night and that show has rekindled my interest in Atlantis type Civilizations. And it just bugs me that there are so many unsolved anomalies right here in America. Out of curiosity, what mysteries are those? I have never watched America Unearthed, so I have no idea what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted March 5, 2013 #2115 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Out of curiosity, what mysteries are those? I have never watched America Unearthed, so I have no idea what you mean. An overview of the first episode of the series from December should give you an idea Geologist and adventurer Scott Wolter explores a government-restricted site, and makes a startling discovery connecting the ancient Mayans with rural Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.A.D CapeBretoner Posted March 7, 2013 #2116 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Holy sheepshit that long since 09 then i must of said before on this one about my view of this topic. Edited March 7, 2013 by M.A.D CapeBretoner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted March 8, 2013 #2117 Share Posted March 8, 2013 An overview of the first episode of the series from December should give you an idea Dear gods of Kobol, tell me you're joking.........but since it's History Channel, I doubt you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaentum Posted March 8, 2013 #2118 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Dear gods of Kobol, tell me you're joking.........but since it's History Channel, I doubt you are. The post was not a joke though the show certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted March 9, 2013 #2119 Share Posted March 9, 2013 It doesn't matter if it's been around longer it still doesn't make Atlantis real which is what you appeared to be implying in Post #2108. Discussing the validity or lack thereof of a subject, even over the long term, does not make it true. cormac Are you actually saying that if you keep repeating a mistake it won't eventually become a fact? Perish the thought! Beating dead horses is ever so enjoyable. There's no doubting that the subject of Atlantis has a hell of a lot of staying power at UM and any number of other internet forums out there. But to strike a balance, internet forums do not represent actual academic inquiry and it's exceedingly rare when a real historian even takes part in such internet discussions. We might benefit from the input of a Classicist or other specialist in ancient Mediterranean history. That being said, regardless of how often fringe and alternative proponents continue to bring up Atlantis, it won't make Atlantis any more real. I've basically just parroted what you wrote, cormac, but it's late and I'm about to go to bed, and I'm too lazy right now to be original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proclus Posted March 29, 2013 #2120 Share Posted March 29, 2013 There is a new Web page with introductory literature on Plato's Atlantis under an academic perspective: http://www.atlantis-scout.de/atlantis_introduction.htm Maybe interesting for some of you! _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitegandalf Posted April 13, 2013 #2121 Share Posted April 13, 2013 http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/poached-walrus-tusks-1471-pictures.htm Could the tales from atlantis be second hand tales from a place far away which they only had trading relation with? Could it be that there were no elephants there after all? That atlantis only traded with tusks from the walrus. Which is almost identical material, shape,, colour and size. We know that these tusks was heavily traded by the peoples of the north sea from ancient stoneage until today. The north sea should not be ruled out yet as a serious candidate. Their seafearing skills and technology and trading routes was surpassed by none. Who knows what really happened 12000 years ago. As every single city and village of this culture lies underwater today and not discovered yet, it is foolish to rule it out. The north sea invaded and settled in the mediterian 1300 years ago and a period during bronseage. Why not in stoneage too? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Viking_Expansion.svg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted April 13, 2013 #2122 Share Posted April 13, 2013 http://www.alaska-in...71-pictures.htm Could the tales from atlantis be second hand tales from a place far away which they only had trading relation with? Could it be that there were no elephants there after all? That atlantis only traded with tusks from the walrus. Which is almost identical material, shape,, colour and size. We know that these tusks was heavily traded by the peoples of the north sea from ancient stoneage until today. The north sea should not be ruled out yet as a serious candidate. Their seafearing skills and technology and trading routes was surpassed by none. Who knows what really happened 12000 years ago. As every single city and village of this culture lies underwater today and not discovered yet, it is foolish to rule it out. The north sea invaded and settled in the mediterian 1300 years ago and a period during bronseage. Why not in stoneage too? There exist no "tales from Atlantis." There exists one "Tale of Atlantis." It is an allegorical tale which admonishes the Greek society in the times of Plato. Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted April 13, 2013 #2123 Share Posted April 13, 2013 ... It is an allegorical tale which admonishes the Greek society in the times of Plato. Harte Now, why can't the Atlantis crowd ever seem to see the simple truth behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted April 14, 2013 #2124 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I found Atlantis .... and I have woof ... I mean proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitegandalf Posted April 14, 2013 #2125 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Now, why can't the Atlantis crowd ever seem to see the simple truth behind that? Since you seem 100 percent sure it dident exist, why dont you tell me your undisputable hard evidence (or your best) that the atlantis story is not inspired by a real story? Have you explored the entire ocean floor everywhere to rule atlantis out? Or are you a "special" person with magic powers that just know everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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