Atlantis

[Harte]

I don't know Harte but the older version of you seemed to be a bit more charismatic.

Yeah, it rubbed off, didn't it.

Too much crapola - could haoppen to anyone, I sez.

Harte

[Abramelin]

This was the thread you were looking for, Qoais (Gobekli Tepe /sphynx)

http://www.unexplain...0entry3170840

I will copy and paste what you posted in the other thread:

Qoais said:

http://www.guardian....haeology.turkey

See near the bottom of the article, where it says:

Quote:

Vecihi Ozkaya, the director of a dig at Kortiktepe, 120 miles east of Urfa, doubts the thousands of stone pots he has found since 2001 in hundreds of 11,500-year-old graves quite qualify as that. But his excitement fills his austere office at Dicle University in Diyarbakir.

"Look at this", he said, pointing at a photo of an exquisitely carved sculpture showing an animal, half-human, half-lion. "It's a sphinx, thousands of years before Egypt. South-eastern Turkey, northern Syria - this region saw the wedding night of our civilisation."

Well, I was trying to reach Prof. Vecihi Ozkaya and sent off an e-mail but only now received an answer, and as usual, the material in the e-mail is copywrited so I can't even post it here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is all I can post:

First of all, Körtik Tepe is a prehistoric settlement dated beginning 10 000 BC. Since 2000, excavations have been made. Findings will change the results about the cultural history has known. So, excavation results raises a global excitement. Concerning sphenx:

The picture that you send belonging Göbekli Tepe is alion relief, not a sphenx. Sfenx, by definition, is a mythological creature means a mixed creature. The best examples of it is Egytian sphenxes. The example of Körtik Tepe which carved on a stone vessel has not yet been published. But I'll make an exception for you and I will send you a picture of a mixed creature not a sphenx. Please note that all rights of this image are reserved.

Best wishes

V. ÖZKAYA

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Edited November 25, 2009 by Abramelin

[Qoais]

Thanks Abe I appreciate your help.

[stevemagegod]

All of you guys bring up very good points. But i think that Atlantis was destroyed by a Ancient nuclear War that was with the ancient land known as Lemuria. According to Ramtha is the entity that JZ Knight claims to channel. According to Ramtha, he was a Lemurian warrior who fought the Atlanteans over 35,000 years ago.Ramtha speaks of leading an army over 2.5 million strong (more than twice the estimated world population at about 30,000 BC) for 63 years, and conquering three fourths of the known world (which was going through cataclysmic geological changes). According to Ramtha, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed. This war that Ram was in could explain why Atlantis disappeared.

[stevemagegod]

The reason why it is so hard to find Atlantis is because it was nuked. Which could explain the tsunami and volcanic eruption afterward which wiped out any survivors unless the remaining ones went to Egypt afterwards. Now according to UFO Hunters the U.S. Navy Base known as AUTEC is located in the same exact spot where Atlantis was which is wright in the middle of the Bermuda triangle. The Bermuda Triangle is also where the Bimini Road is located which is a coincidence since Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would be found around that area of the ocean.

[Ikki]

All of you guys bring up very good points. But i think that Atlantis was destroyed by a Ancient nuclear War that was with the ancient land known as Lemuria. According to Ramtha is the entity that JZ Knight claims to channel. According to Ramtha, he was a Lemurian warrior who fought the Atlanteans over 35,000 years ago.Ramtha speaks of leading an army over 2.5 million strong (more than twice the estimated world population at about 30,000 BC) for 63 years, and conquering three fourths of the known world (which was going through cataclysmic geological changes). According to Ramtha, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed. This war that Ram was in could explain why Atlantis disappeared.

In my earlier life I was a turtle and I have returned to tell you that I personally gathered three trillion of my kin to crawl onto the island of Atlantis and jump up and down repeatedly until it sank.

What? You don't believe me? But I'm saying it!

[Ikki]

Another point: Lemuria never existed. It was an early 19-century theory proposed to explain the similar fossils found on Madagascar and in India. With the theory of plate tectonics being slowly accepted, lost continents fell into disfavor. Lemuria has no historical basis; it was even named after the creature whose fossils the theory sought to explain. I haven't heard of this Ramtha person, but he's obviously a liar or nuts.

[stevemagegod]

Google Ramtha and tell me what you found

[Ikki]

Google Ramtha and tell me what you found

"Ramtha's School of Enlightenment - The Original School of Consciousness & EnergySM

Ramtha's School of Enlightenment (RSE) is a remarkable academy of the mind created by Ramtha the Enlightened One that offers Retreats and Workshops internationally to students from all over the world and from all walks of life. Using ancient wisdom and the latest discoveries in neuroscience and quantum physics, RSE teaches you how to access the extraordinary abilities of your brain to Become a Remarkable Life®"

*tries hard not to laugh*

[stevemagegod]

If we want to find the location of Atlantis i think that we need to look under the Sphinx. Because Edgar cayce said that the Sphinx contains the Hall of Records which tells the origin of man kind and possible the secret of where Atlantis is.

[Ikki]

If we want to find the location of Atlantis i think that we need to look under the Sphinx. Because Edgar cayce said that the Sphinx contains the Hall of Records which tells the origin of man kind and possible the secret of where Atlantis is.

I think we need to look in the Pegasus Galaxy because that's where the Stargate series said it was.

[Qoais]

[Abramelin]

All of you guys bring up very good points. But i think that Atlantis was destroyed by a Ancient nuclear War that was with the ancient land known as Lemuria. According to Ramtha is the entity that JZ Knight claims to channel. According to Ramtha, he was a Lemurian warrior who fought the Atlanteans over 35,000 years ago.Ramtha speaks of leading an army over 2.5 million strong (more than twice the estimated world population at about 30,000 BC) for 63 years, and conquering three fourths of the known world (which was going through cataclysmic geological changes). According to Ramtha, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed. This war that Ram was in could explain why Atlantis disappeared.

Ramtha was an imposter, didn't you know?

If you didn't, and gobbled up all she said, I give up hope for humanity.

Jesus F C.

The one and only real "Unexplained Mystery" is that there are lots of people who just accept this bs.

Did something go wrong during our evolution? Some death-ray that killed of braincells of some of our ancestors, changed their genetic make-up and made us believers in every bs someone cooked up??

Edited November 30, 2009 by Abramelin

[ShadowSot]

Did something go wrong during our evolution? Some death-ray that killed of braincells of some of our ancestors, changed their genetic make-up and made us believers in every bs someone cooked up??

Nope, fantasy to some people is just infinitely more interesting than reality.

S'why I keep pointing out Lemuria was a disproved theory pre-Plate tectonics, and the Baghdad batteries more likely saw life as jars of religious scrolls.

[cormac mac airt]

Nope, fantasy to some people is just infinitely more interesting than reality.

S'why I keep pointing out Lemuria was a disproved theory pre-Plate tectonics, and the Baghdad batteries more likely saw life as jars of religious scrolls.

Yet many won't believe the evidence, as it's not as exciting or as easy to come by as fiction. "It sounds true" seems to be a valid argument in fringe theories, whereas researching the evidence or context thereof apparently requires too much effort, so must be wrong. The quest for answers has taken a nose dive.

cormac

[TheSearcher]

I think we need to look in the Pegasus Galaxy because that's where the Stargate series said it was.

Yeah I'm looking for the weapons platform in Antartica right now, so that we can defend against those pesky meddling nibblers......

[jules99]

Intuitive knowledge has always played a major role in human developement. The fact is we at times let our imaginations run away a bit, and those fantasy ideas can become a form of popular belief. I mean look at Velokovsky, he was proven wrong at every step, yet....if nothing else he pushed catastrophism into the public conciousness. I think "capitalising" on intuition speaks as much about our morals, economy and the way we disseminate information as of the intellect of those taken in.

[+DieChecker]

I think we need to look in the Pegasus Galaxy because that's where the Stargate series said it was.

The Stargate: Atlantis show (Its a documentary, don't you know.) clearly details how and why Atlantis was built and what happens when it sinks under the ocean. (Hint: The Shields come on.)

Is there perhaps part of the South coast of Briton or Ireland that matches the description of Atlantis? It would make more sense geographically and Plato might actually have known there were large islands there.

[lightly]

my very own personal Atlantis is an 'advanced' semi physical civilization that existed at some point when the continents were joined together... it "broke apart and was' swallowed 'up by the sea. remember that? lol

[TheSearcher]

The Stargate: Atlantis show (Its a documentary, don't you know.) clearly details how and why Atlantis was built and what happens when it sinks under the ocean. (Hint: The Shields come on.)

Is there perhaps part of the South coast of Briton or Ireland that matches the description of Atlantis? It would make more sense geographically and Plato might actually have known there were large islands there.

I don't know about that, neither Briton, nor Ireland are really "in front of the Pillars of Hercules" as such and I'm not sure they would be considered a continent even then. But I like the idea, worth pursuing anyway.

[Abramelin]

my very own personal Atlantis is an 'advanced' semi physical civilization that existed at some point when the continents were joined together... it "broke apart and was' swallowed 'up by the sea. remember that? lol

But that was so long ago, many millions of years ago, that the only 'civilization' you might find is the one of the dinosaurs.

Oh, what did you say? 'Semi physical'? Like in creatures not being totally physical, some kind of spirits? Or a civilization based on philosophy, thought, but not creating stone/wood works?

[Abramelin]

The Stargate: Atlantis show (Its a documentary, don't you know.) clearly details how and why Atlantis was built and what happens when it sinks under the ocean. (Hint: The Shields come on.)

Is there perhaps part of the South coast of Briton or Ireland that matches the description of Atlantis? It would make more sense geographically and Plato might actually have known there were large islands there.

There was a Russian guy who asumed exactly that, and suggested that the city of Atlantis was located on "Little Sole Bank", at the south western edge of the European continental plateau.

[lightly]

But that was so long ago, many millions of years ago, that the only 'civilization' you might find is the one of the dinosaurs.

Oh, what did you say? 'Semi physical'? Like in creatures not being totally physical, some kind of spirits? Or a civilization based on philosophy, thought, but not creating stone/wood works?

yup, i know Abramelin... i just like to consider the extremely remote possibility... most would say IMpossibility... of human or human-like beings evolving on this Orb ..before. Many millions of years ago... i Know .. there is NO evidence of that. ... But .. how many other animals/beings that have come and gone is there NO evidence of??? Consider it a personal Fantasy i guess. Same with the semi physical beings thing... i happen to believe.. with no evidence that i can produce, that Spirituality (awareness) Preceded Physicality (matter) and that physical life materialized, by choice, from spiritual life... and that somewhere along the 'line' were In-between, 'semi physical' stages.... with matter being less dense and still somewhere in between thought and matter.. occupied by beings that were not yet locked into this dimensional construct.. but could still come and go between this and other dimensional constructs. Now we are to Dense to consider such things . Probably all very silly and not meant to upset anyone .. just something i enjoy thinking about. .. not really even original thoughts... i have read similar ideas .

i always bring up the Australian aboriginal 'Dream Time' as an example of a belief in a 'time' before existence Materialized. There are others.

[Qoais]

Well lightly, that's what Edgar Cayce said as well. That spiritual beings became trapped in the dense atmosphere of earth.

[Abramelin]

yup, i know Abramelin... i just like to consider the extremely remote possibility... most would say IMpossibility... of human or human-like beings evolving on this Orb ..before. Many millions of years ago... i Know .. there is NO evidence of that. ... But .. how many other animals/beings that have come and gone is there NO evidence of??? Consider it a personal Fantasy i guess. Same with the semi physical beings thing... i happen to believe.. with no evidence that i can produce, that Spirituality (awareness) Preceded Physicality (matter) and that physical life materialized, by choice, from spiritual life... and that somewhere along the 'line' were In-between, 'semi physical' stages.... with matter being less dense and still somewhere in between thought and matter.. occupied by beings that were not yet locked into this dimensional construct.. but could still come and go between this and other dimensional constructs. Now we are to Dense to consider such things . Probably all very silly and not meant to upset anyone .. just something i enjoy thinking about. .. not really even original thoughts... i have read similar ideas .

i always bring up the Australian aboriginal 'Dream Time' as an example of a belief in a 'time' before existence Materialized. There are others.

I think it was Helena Blavatsky who first mentioned it in her "The Secret Doctrine", long before Cayce.

But if you take millions of years into consideration, any trace of an 'advanced' civilization will be whiped out.

And we humans now think of 'advanced' as being made of metal, concrete, steel and plastics, but who knows what some very ancient critters invented millions of years ago, something that didn't last long enough for us to dig up?

Well, that's what scifi/fantasy is based upon, right? No proof possible, so anything goes, lol.

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Edited December 1, 2009 by Abramelin