Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 #1 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNrfY4U9WYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw7DtjO4V6c "A groundbreaking hour long special where Glenn Beck takes us back in time to examine the roots of socialism and communism and the evil that followed. We all know about the horrors of the holocaust where the pure evil Hitler inspired claimed the lives of millions of innocent people. But most do not know about the millions upon millions of lives lost in a different genocide of the Ukrainian people under the Stalin regime."Source and full articleGlenn Beck takes another look at the history books Edited January 23, 2010 by Caesar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted January 23, 2010 #2 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Lenin himself distrusted Stalin. He was just as bloodthirsty as Hitler, but he was accepted into the Allied side in WWII because he was considered the lesser of two evils. I think it was Churchill who said he'd side with the devil himself if it got rid of Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormalcy Posted January 23, 2010 #3 Share Posted January 23, 2010 See, this is why I hate Glenn Beck even more - although I am not a scholar enough to judge the veracity of everything in his video, enough of it seems plausible that it does appear to be things that have not been publicly considered for the most part, and could change the way of looking at current events as well as history, and the human condition. But then he also wants to sell you gold and warns you to stock up on four million pounds of rice because of the coming global apocalypse and cries for his country because things aren't going exactly how he thinks it should. He's such a Damoclesian figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 Author #4 Share Posted January 23, 2010 See, this is why I hate Glenn Beck even more - although I am not a scholar enough to judge the veracity of everything in his video, enough of it seems plausible that it does appear to be things that have not been publicly considered for the most part, and could change the way of looking at current events as well as history, and the human condition. But then he also wants to sell you gold and warns you to stock up on four million pounds of rice because of the coming global apocalypse and cries for his country because things aren't going exactly how he thinks it should. He's such a Damoclesian figure. I agree with you, I think it was a good documentary but he always seem to add some nonsense opinion, usually to scare people or cause some fear among his viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryinrea Posted January 23, 2010 #5 Share Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) To me, it was incredibly one side, and not a good source of information. He fells to tell you that pure communism is an oppression free society, its also would be handled democratically. I would also describe Hitler as a Fascist. Communism Edited January 23, 2010 by Ryinrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 Author #6 Share Posted January 23, 2010 To me, it was incredibly one side, and not a good source of information. He fells to tell you that pure communism is an oppression free society, its also would be handled democratically. I would also describe Hitler as a Fascist. Communism The point of the documentary was to talk about the other side that wasn't talked about. how the Communist regimes and the Nazi's are very close but how society hasn't treat Communism even a fraction as harshly as Nazi's. you can wear a Mao hat, Che Guevara t-shirt or Anita Dunn praising Mao Tse-Tung, Mao was responsable for killing just as many people as Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 Author #7 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Nobel Prize winner George Bernard Shaw "You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence?" "If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight, and since you won't, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself." Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 23, 2010 #8 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Nobel Prize winner George Bernard Shaw "You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence?" "If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight, and since you won't, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself." Source George Bernard Shaw was one of the left’s most revered figures and the only person besides Al Gore to win both an Oscar and a Nobel prize. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocSgz_AeSNE&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 Author #9 Share Posted January 23, 2010 He clearly was a communist supporter aswell. he thought that the gas should be used on low class people. its scary how when he talked about such a gas, the nazi's would be using it ten years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 23, 2010 #10 Share Posted January 23, 2010 January 08, 2010 Alex is joined by his producer, Aaron Dykes. Aaron goes over the history of the Eugenicist and one of their main leaders in this occult group, and reads off quotes about how much they wanted to kill most of the population during WW2. http://www.infowars.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 23, 2010 Author #11 Share Posted January 23, 2010 This reminds me of Obamas czar John P. Holdren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 23, 2010 #12 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Aaron Dykes explains in the second vid that George Orwell(1984) based his novel on the year 1884. 1884 - the year Fabian socialism was founded and that their insignia/logo is a wolf is sheep's clothing. ******* I hope everybody is paying attention. ******* War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength ******** Obama® and Gore™ are Nobel Peace prize winners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted January 24, 2010 #13 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The revolution will not be.. you tube-ized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradle of Fish Posted January 24, 2010 #14 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The point of the documentary was to talk about the other side that wasn't talked about. how the Communist regimes and the Nazi's are very close but how society hasn't treat Communism even a fraction as harshly as Nazi's. you can wear a Mao hat, Che Guevara t-shirt or Anita Dunn praising Mao Tse-Tung, Mao was responsable for killing just as many people as Hitler. It's funny because George Orwell did that over 60 years ago and he didn't resort to spamming HITLERHITLERHITLER. George Orwell was as left wing as they come, a self described socialist(until the day he died) and he was criticizing Stalin when they were still allies and as a result the government delayed the release of Animal Farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #15 Share Posted January 24, 2010 It's funny because George Orwell did that over 60 years ago and he didn't resort to spamming HITLERHITLERHITLER. George Orwell was as left wing as they come, a self described socialist(until the day he died) and he was criticizing Stalin when they were still allies and as a result the government delayed the release of Animal Farm. How could George Orwell connect Stalin and Nazi Germany at that time? Animal Farm had trouble because no one wanted to publish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted January 24, 2010 #16 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The extreme right wants to re-write history and the extreme left wants to sterilize everybody. We're all nuts if we allow either one to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #17 Share Posted January 24, 2010 The extreme right wants to re-write history and the extreme left wants to sterilize everybody. We're all nuts if we allow either one to happen. Its more like the extreme left wants to rewrite history or only tell you one side of it. we've seen the along with pc in school books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #18 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Question, How did Hitler use socialism such as education and public health lead to fascism in creating an army capable of taking on the world. He turned Germany into a fascist state by the use of military force. Socialism played no role in Hitlers conquest other than offering his military state health care and education. His socialism was geared due to his want of a militant state and that he would support those that followed his militant state. He was not a socialist. The same as the American military does. It offers cheap housing, free medical, free travel with out papers pleaz and insurance to it's members. Hitler based everything on a military and no socialist would make a society fascist in order to support such a militant action. He was a right winger and hungry for power hence his army and his non conformity to anything else. Edited January 24, 2010 by Not the 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryinrea Posted January 24, 2010 #19 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Good god, people need to pick up a book instead of listening to this buffoon. 1984 is a book by George Oswell in this book he details the dangers of Totalitarianism. I do recommend the book to anyone who wants to learn something. Acid's words war is peace, Freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength are from the book. It's the official slogan of the party or the political party of the story. Basically, it means who control's the past controls the future. ------------------------------------------ I agree, with Not the 1 that Hitler based everything on the military, and no socialist would make that kind of mistake. I also agree, that Hitler was a Fascist not a socialist. Edited January 24, 2010 by Ryinrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted January 24, 2010 #20 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Question, How did Hitler use socialism such as education and public health lead to fascism in creating an army capable of taking on the world. He turned Germany into a fascist state by the use of military force. Socialism played no role in Hitlers conquest other than offering his military state health care and education. His socialism was geared due to his want of a militant state and that he would support those that followed his militant state. He was not a socialist. The same as the American military does. It offers cheap housing, free medical, free travel with out papers pleaz and insurance to it's members. That is not true. Hitler's socialism was taught in all of the schools of Germany past a certain time of his rise. In all of the businesses and many homes and churches as well and in every aspect of German life was NAZI socialism the rule. There was nothing free about Hitler's socialist and fascist rule. It was an 'everything for the state" mentality that anyone who opposed it would risk their life or freedom if they were to publically oppose it. Of course there are similiarities to certain aspects of how the first Progressive presidents ruled as well here in America around the same time as Hitler (Wilson and FDR), and we are still suffering the wrath of the Progressive movement if we do not wake up and defeat them. Edited January 24, 2010 by TRUEYOUTRUEME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #21 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Nobel Prize winner George Bernard Shaw "You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence?" "If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight, and since you won't, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself." Source You do know he wasn't speaking of himself but warning of what would happen if un-checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #22 Share Posted January 24, 2010 That is not true. Hitler's socialism was taught in all of the schools of Germany past a certain time of his rise. In all of the businesses and many homes and churches as well and in every aspect of German life was NAZI socialism the rule. There was nothing free about Hitler's socialist and fascist rule. It was an 'everything for the state" mentality that anyone who opposed it would risk their life or freedom if they were to publically oppose it. Of course there are similiarities to certain aspects of how the first Progressive presidents ruled as well here in America around the same time as Hitler (Wilson and FDR), and we are still suffering the wrath of the Progressive movement if we do not wake up and defeat them. Anything Hitler did that was socialist had an agenda. That was to build a state that could control through a military and there for act as a fascist state due to the government giving the military anything it wanted to become what it did. The people had no choice hence they became fascist against there will. All due to building an army to conquer the world. Having the biggest army does not by any means make one a socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #23 Share Posted January 24, 2010 How can you say Socialism played no role, Hitler was a member of the nationist socialists party? or lets look at China or Russia they could have done it. Germany also had to manipulate its currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #24 Share Posted January 24, 2010 You do know he wasn't speaking of himself but warning of what would happen if un-checked He was talking about the idea of getting rid of people that did not produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted January 24, 2010 #25 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Anything Hitler did that was socialist had an agenda. That was to build a state that could control through a military and there for act as a fascist state due to the government giving the military anything it wanted to become what it did. The people had no choice hence they became fascist against there will. All due to building an army to conquer the world. Having the biggest army does not by any means make one a socialist Everything that any socialist did had an agenda. Nationalization of our health care for the good of the nation. Nationalization of energy use for the good of the nation. Nationalization of how we view sexuality for the good of the nation. The left-wing Progresives also wantto claim that there view of terrorist's rights be nationalized for the so-called goo of the nation. Everything Hitler did was a part of a socialist mindset. He just didn't care to use the same wishy-washy approach as certain types of socialists like to use but instead started to preach his statist morality as if gospel and that blaspemy towards his morality would be punished. It is no different as to how the progreesive movement today want to deny corporations freedom of speech rights. Or in how the progressive movement wants to deny people the right to have representation on issues of sexuality in public. Or how progressive say that there can be no more arguments about global warming. The left-wing progressive does not want to be concerned with others people rights to have an opinion. They just want to dictate their opinion to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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