Ryinrea Posted January 24, 2010 #26 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) How can you say Socialism played no role, Hitler was a member of the nationist socialists party? or lets look at China or Russia they could have done it. Germany also had to manipulate its currency. Future read suggestions Hitler was a Fascist Please read 1984, to get an idea of how Totalitarianism works. Some of the quotes from him goes so well with him being a Fascist and in favor of Totalitarianism Edited January 24, 2010 by Ryinrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradle of Fish Posted January 24, 2010 #27 Share Posted January 24, 2010 How can you say Socialism played no role, Hitler was a member of the nationist socialists party? or lets look at China or Russia they could have done it. Germany also had to manipulate its currency. Just words. The People's Republic of China neither belongs to the people nor is a republic. Would you say republicanism is evil because of all the atrocities committed by the PRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #28 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Hitler was a Fascist Please read 1984, to get an idea of how Totalitarianism works. Some of the quotes from him goes so well with him being a Fascist and Totalitarianism I'm not saying Hitler wasn't a Fascist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #29 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Just words. The People's Republic of China neither belongs to the people nor is a republic. Would you say republicanism is evil because of all the atrocities committed by the PRC? It does belong to the people in a communism form of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clare256 Posted January 24, 2010 #30 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Aaron Dykes explains in the second vid that George Orwell(1984) based his novel on the year 1884. 1884 - the year Fabian socialism was founded and that their insignia/logo is a wolf is sheep's clothing. ******* I hope everybody is paying attention. ******* War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength ******** Obama® and Gore™ are Nobel Peace prize winners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #31 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Anything Hitler did that was socialist had an agenda. That was to build a state that could control through a military and there for act as a fascist state due to the government giving the military anything it wanted to become what it did. The people had no choice hence they became fascist against there will. All due to building an army to conquer the world. Having the biggest army does not by any means make one a socialist In actually ideology the differences between communism and fascism are very small. they were both totalitarian systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryinrea Posted January 24, 2010 #32 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) I'm not saying Hitler wasn't a Fascist Yes, you were claiming that Hitler wasn't a Fascist by claiming him to be a socialist. Read something, its good for you. To learn, what Communism is really about. Pure communism is an classless, stateless and oppression-free society The Url is not working for me dang it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism Edited January 24, 2010 by Ryinrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEYOUTRUEME Posted January 24, 2010 #33 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Fascism and marxism always present themselves as radical. Of course that is no different in Amercica today. The governent must nationalize healthcare. We must nationalize all of everyone's energy use. We must nationalize how we view sexuality. We must nationalize the banks and the auto industry and.... Here is a cool rock song about the Obama (Salinsky) left-wing movement and Rules for Radicals: Hpoefully people wake up and realize that the left-wing progressive movement is no different then it has been in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #34 Share Posted January 24, 2010 He was talking about the idea of getting rid of people that did not produce. So are you by trying to abolish universal health care as a whole. Or is universal health care only a privilege in the military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clare256 Posted January 24, 2010 #35 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Everything that any socialist did had an agenda. Nationalization of our health care for the good of the nation. Nationalization of energy use for the good of the nation. Nationalization of how we view sexuality for the good of the nation. The left-wing Progresives also wantto claim that there view of terrorist's rights be nationalized for the so-called goo of the nation. Everything Hitler did was a part of a socialist mindset. He just didn't care to use the same wishy-washy approach as certain types of socialists like to use but instead started to preach his statist morality as if gospel and that blaspemy towards his morality would be punished. It is no different as to how the progreesive movement today want to deny corporations freedom of speech rights. Or in how the progressive movement wants to deny people the right to have representation on issues of sexuality in public. Or how progressive say that there can be no more arguments about global warming. The left-wing progressive does not want to be concerned with others people rights to have an opinion. They just want to dictate their opinion to all. I agree. Socialism leads to Fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryinrea Posted January 24, 2010 #36 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I agree. Socialism leads to Fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #37 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I agree. Socialism leads to Fascism. Stalinism is a good example of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #38 Share Posted January 24, 2010 In actually ideology the differences between communism and fascism are very small. they were both totalitarian systems. So is capitalism as if you havn't been around for a while, capitalism cares little about the common people and only about itself. People can call me all they want but to say there is not a problem with capitalism is a failure to comprehend. No matter how rich one is they still rely on the poor and the ignorance of that will be the down fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #39 Share Posted January 24, 2010 So are you by trying to abolish universal health care as a whole. Or is universal health care only a privilege in the military? I don't understand what you mean in your reply to my quote. how can we abolish universal health care if we never had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #40 Share Posted January 24, 2010 So is capitalism as if you havn't been around for a while, capitalism cares little about the common people and only about itself. People can call me all they want but to say there is not a problem with capitalism is a failure to comprehend. No matter how rich one is they still rely on the poor and the ignorance of that will be the down fall. Well just look at North and South Korea and tell me that capitalism doesn't care about people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #41 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I agree. Socialism leads to Fascism. When one is a fascist they often use the term socialism. There has to be a mix of the two hence a government that does not allow one to control the other. In America there is a line pub or dem, there is no middle so you guys have a big problem cause it flips back and forth to often. You don't even know whats going on. One year your facist the next your socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #42 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well just look at North and South Korea and tell me that capitalism doesn't care about people. You want me to comment on a war that America still hasn't been able to resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #43 Share Posted January 24, 2010 You want me to comment on a war that America still hasn't been able to resolve? No I want you to tell me how the people are doing in the capitalists country vs the Communists one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #44 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I don't understand what you mean in your reply to my quote. how can we abolish universal health care if we never had it. Your socialist military has it. Now comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #45 Share Posted January 24, 2010 When one is a fascist they often use the term socialism. There has to be a mix of the two hence a government that does not allow one to control the other. In America there is a line pub or dem, there is no middle so you guys have a big problem cause it flips back and forth to often. You don't even know whats going on. One year your facist the next your socialist. No its always been a freemarket democratic/repubic. just because one makes a claim that its something else, doesn't make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #46 Share Posted January 24, 2010 No I want you to tell me how the people are doing in the capitalists country vs the Communists one! So you want me to comment on a war that had no results? why does North Korea still call itself North Korea. I thought the war was meant to fix not break. The war created what North Korea is today. We lost and didn't finish. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #47 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Your socialist military has it. Now comment. The president of South Korea is Lee Myung-bak On Dec. 19, 2007, Lee Myung-bak of the Grand National Party was elected the 17th president of Korea, as voters responded to his success as a construction CEO and Seoul mayor. North Korea South Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #48 Share Posted January 24, 2010 So you want me to comment on a war that had no results? why does North Korea still call itself North Korea. I thought the war was meant to fix not break. The war created what North Korea is today. We lost and didn't finish. period. The results of the Korean war was the fredoom of South Korea. Douglas Macarthur Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted January 24, 2010 #49 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) The president of South Korea is Lee Myung-bak On Dec. 19, 2007, Lee Myung-bak of the Grand National Party was elected the 17th president of Korea, as voters responded to his success as a construction CEO and Seoul mayor. North Korea South Korea You have no idea do you. If it had been up to me there would be no North or south Korea. I'm not the pansy you think I am. I would have marched every damn tank every damn boot every damn plane into North Korea and wiped them flat. Then slapped both in the face and said smartin the F up and if not we will be back and not to shake hands. Politics and ass kissin saved North Korea and guess what? we have to deal with them again. Edited January 24, 2010 by Not the 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Posted January 24, 2010 Author #50 Share Posted January 24, 2010 You have no idea do you. If it had been up to me there would be no North or south Korea. I'm not the pansy you think I am. I would have marched every damn tank every damn boot every damn plane into North Korea and wiped them flat. Then slapped both in the face and said smartin the F up and if not we will be back and not to shake hands. Politics and ass kissin saved North Korea and guess what? we have to deal with them again. I have been there when I was in the Marines, South Korea can whipe them off the planet if the North attacked so I don't see why this still involves us, the truce was the best option at that time because we lost so many lives when we pushed them into China and there would have been even more lives lost if we got China involved. I really have no idea what this has to do with what this topic is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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