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The Revolutionary Holocaust

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

I have been watching the videos in parts and just got to watch the second part.

Excellent work by Glen Beck and Jonah Goldberg. They hit the nail on the head on showing how there is not much difference at all between socialism and fascism.

Great thread!

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

You must be one of the damn dumbest Americans I have ever come across. Fargo North Dakota. Oh hell whats the point you can't even look it up, a town or state in your own country. You just keep proving my point over and over. Now buck up and say when.

Is that where you are from? Fargo, North Dakota?

What is your point anyway? That you think I will not face you becuase in an earlier post you threatened that blood will be spilt? Are you are a joke?

You just keep on proving your point then Fargo. I have no fear of you and would love to hear you speak the same way to my face.

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The Silver Thong

Are you going to be there too? That would be awesome if true.

She is my back up in case you cheat, or can't find it on a map. She will google it for you.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

She is my back up in case you cheat, or can't find it on a map. She will google it for you.

That's cool. Good back up.

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The Silver Thong

Is that where you are from? Fargo, North Dakota?

What is your point anyway? That you think I will not face you becuase in an earlier post you threatened that blood will be spilt? Are you are a joke?

You just keep on proving your point then Fargo. I have no fear of you and would love to hear you speak the same way to my face.

:w00t:

this is a riot, keep going dude I love it. I said meet in the middle, now if I lived in Fargo would that be the middle ? hahaha this is awesome.

It shows you have little to no comprehension of what you talk about.

I could beat you just by thinking, better bring a gun tough guy ;)

Edited by Not the 1

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fenris1011

Make sure you bring back up, as you will need it pal.

lol

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

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this is a riot, keep going dude I love it. I said meet in the middle, now if I lived in Fargo would that be the middle ? hahaha this is awesome.

It shows you have little to no comprehension of what you talk about.

I could beat you just by thinking, better bring a gun tough guy ;)

You really are saying nothing here. You are the one who claimed that if I was to actually speak the words I write in front of you that there would be blood spilt. So back it up.

I said I would gladly meet you. You are now just making stupid remarks telling me that I am going to need a gun, etc...

Do you really want to meet? I am sure we could work something out if you are serious about it. If not then dont waste my time.

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el midgetron

These videos are of an ex North Korea inmate who tells about his life in a NK prison camp. For the first part of his life he didn't even know there was a world outside the camp, let alone outside North Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LYjo81MlQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts_IcywvB9Y&feature=related

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Caesar

You really are saying nothing here. You are the one who claimed that if I was to actually speak the words I write in front of you that there would be blood spilt. So back it up.

He hasn't said anthing on topic in this thread, so its clear he has nothing of substance to contribute.

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Mr Meowgi

You really are saying nothing here. You are the one who claimed that if I was to actually speak the words I write in front of you that there would be blood spilt. So back it up.

I said I would gladly meet you. You are now just making stupid remarks telling me that I am going to need a gun, etc...

Do you really want to meet? I am sure we could work something out if you are serious about it. If not then dont waste my time.

I believe Not the 1 stated, if you were to speak like you write on here to any normal person, they'd probably punch you square in the nose, I know I would, and that says alot considering I'm not normal.

There's no room left on this planet for hate mongerers. Go spread that filth somewhere we can't hear it. Like Jupiter.

I shall finish with a quote.

"Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one. And most of them stink".

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Caesar

I believe Not the 1 stated, if you were to speak like you write on here to any normal person, they'd probably punch you square in the nose, I know I would, and that says alot considering I'm not normal.

There's no room left on this planet for hate mongerers. Go spread that filth somewhere we can't hear it. Like Jupiter.

I shall finish with a quote.

"Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one. And most of them stink".

Hate mongerers?

All this discussion is about is the history of socialism and other forms of government.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

I believe Not the 1 stated, if you were to speak like you write on here to any normal person, they'd probably punch you square in the nose, I know I would, and that says alot considering I'm not normal.

There's no room left on this planet for hate mongerers. Go spread that filth somewhere we can't hear it. Like Jupiter.

I shall finish with a quote.

"Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one. And most of them stink".

I will gladly admit that I am opinionated and that I have an ideology that I believe in. But how am I the hate-monger in this thread? Already "Not the 1" has threatened that I should not speak my mind in public less he would make me bloody. And now you tell me that you will punch me in the face if you meet me as well.

Finish anyway that you want to but it is still you that are a filthy hate-monger and not me. I would galdy meet either of you and it would be nothing but pure entertainment for me.

I have met many hate-mongers in my life who cast threats and personal attacks all of the time and they are always nothing but a joke at the end.

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Mr Meowgi

Now on to the topic at hand.

People could probably sit here all day, slinging mud back and forth from one camp to the other, but whats that going to prove, or solve for that matter.

History cannot be changed. It is what it is. The same applies for some peoples views. How ever twisted they may be.

Before any conclusions are reached, educate yourself on the subjects at hand and form your own opinion from the facts. Not from some egghead whose managed to weasel their way into the limelight.

History has taught me that Hitler was a very rotten man. He took what he had and twisted it to fit his crooked mould of want and self righteousness. What he did should come under a whole new heading. He used certain facets of socialism, communism and facism, in order to fulfill his goals.

It is clear that some will not agree with this. However, one thing I hope we can all agree on was that he was a monster. For those that can't, well, I'd say your in for a rough ride.

I feel if we are to make it in this day and age, we should take those aspects of all the different isms, that would be beneficial to the whole, and put them into play. The current systems have proven inadequate, they no longer meet the criteria of the present situation. The key to survival is adaptation. Change or perish.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

These videos are of an ex North Korea inmate who tells about his life in a NK prison camp. For the first part of his life he didn't even know there was a world outside the camp, let alone outside North Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LYjo81MlQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts_IcywvB9Y&feature=related

Very intense. I only watched the first video so far but it really hurts. It is radical the way there are socialist / fascist regimes still treating people this way. I do not understand how anyone can defend this.

Many times when I counter-protested against the so-called antiwar left-wing they had signs supporting North Korea. It is really sickening that people could be against freedom and their own country this way but I have seen it with my own eyes.

Hopefully there are some who consider themselves left-wing who will listen and re-think their position on things.

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Caesar

Now on to the topic at hand.

People could probably sit here all day, slinging mud back and forth from one camp to the other, but whats that going to prove, or solve for that matter.

History cannot be changed. It is what it is. The same applies for some peoples views. How ever twisted they may be.

Before any conclusions are reached, educate yourself on the subjects at hand and form your own opinion from the facts. Not from some egghead whose managed to weasel their way into the limelight..

History cannot be changed but its important to look at everything not just the evils of Hitler.

History has taught me that Hitler was a very rotten man. He took what he had and twisted it to fit his crooked mould of want and self righteousness. What he did should come under a whole new heading. He used certain facets of socialism, communism and facism, in order to fulfill his goals..

Thank you and I agree. what I don't understand is why people call the right wing conservitives Nazies if anything, its leftwing.

It is clear that some will not agree with this. However, one thing I hope we can all agree on was that he was a monster. For those that can't, well, I'd say your in for a rough ride.

I feel if we are to make it in this day and age, we should take those aspects of all the different isms, that would be beneficial to the whole, and put them into play. The current systems have proven inadequate, they no longer meet the criteria of the present situation. The key to survival is adaptation. Change or perish.

All I think most people here want is an open discussion, let the mods keep this on track rather the having members attack eachother. but the attacking of other members is childish.

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The Silver Thong

He hasn't said anthing on topic in this thread, so its clear he has nothing of substance to contribute.

In saying that you have ignored everything pryor in this little debate. You choose your sides and that speaks of what your about. You have just sided with the biggest hate monger on UM and you don't even know it. Good luck with that Caesar ;)

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

In saying that you have ignored everything pryor in this little debate. You choose your sides and that speaks of what your about. You have just sided with the biggest hate monger on UM and you don't even know it. Good luck with that Ceasar ;)

Because I do not agree with you I am a hate monger? You are a real joke. It is you who threatened to spill my blood. It is you who are a hate monger and not me.

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Mr Meowgi

I will gladly admit that I am opinionated and that I have an ideology that I believe in. But how am I the hate-monger in this thread? Already "Not the 1" has threatened that I should not speak my mind in public less he would make me bloody. And now you tell me that you will punch me in the face if you meet me as well.

Finish anyway that you want to but it is still you that are a filthy hate-monger and not me. I would galdy meet either of you and it would be nothing but pure entertainment for me.

I have met many hate-mongers in my life who cast threats and personal attacks all of the time and they are always nothing but a joke at the end.

Correction, I never said I'd meet you. I have no intention of going to the USA at all. I possess something you obviously don't. That is self respect.

That much is clear from your statements in this thread and others.

Also, your neverending battle with leftwingers is the only proof I have of your hate mongering. So quick to blame the opposing side of every ill deed without even blinking an eye. And when your side cops the flack for their mistakes, you lash out and blame the others some more. But you wouldn't act like this in real life, would you?

I do hope this is just your internet persona.

Edited by Supertramp09

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The Silver Thong

Because I do not agree with you I am a hate monger? You are a real joke. It is you who threatened to spill my blood. It is you who are a hate monger and not me.

I have read your posts from the very first day you joined UM and I even welcomed you. So ya I can stand by what I say.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

Correction, I never said I'd meet you. I have no intention of going to the USA at all. I possess something you obviously don't. That is self respect.

That much is clear from your statements in this thread and others.

Also, your neverending battle with leftwingers is the only proof I have of your hate mongering. So quick to blame the opposing side of every ill deed without even blinking an eye. And when your side cops the flack for their mistakes, you lash out and blame the others some more. But you wouldn't act like this real life, would you?

I do hope this is just your internet persona.

Well considering how you expressed how you would punch me in the nose if you could, I just thought that maybe you wanted to meet me.

No disrespect to you but you did say that to me. If that is what you consider to be your level of self-respect then I guess that says all many would need to know about you. You are a hate-monger.

I have told you that I am opinionated and do believe in things. Yet I am not the one who is threatening to spill blood or punch someone as you are. I would be glad to meet anyone here at UM and I have no fear about being myself.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME

I have read your posts from the very first day you joined UM and I even welcomed you. So ya I can stand by what I say.

Well I have no clue who you are up until today. Obviously from your posts in this thread you feel violent towards me. So that tells a lot.

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Caesar

In saying that you have ignored everything pryor in this little debate. You choose your sides and that speaks of what your about. You have just sided with the biggest hate monger on UM and you don't even know it. Good luck with that Caesar ;)

I'm not siding with anyone I just want to debate the history of socialism. do you have anything to add or are you going to make all this juvenile like attacks.

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The Silver Thong

I'm not siding with anyone I just want to debate the history of socialism. do you have anything to add or are you going to make all this juvenile like attacks.

Go back and read the thread again. Thats all the advice I can give you.

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Mr Meowgi

History cannot be changed but its important to look at everything not just the evils of Hitler.

Couldn't have said it better.

Thank you and I agree. what I don't understand is why people call the right wing conservitives Nazies if anything, its leftwing.

Neither do I. They're not even close.

All I think most people here want is an open discussion, let the mods keep this on track rather the having members attack eachother. but the attacking of other members is childish.

Agreed. I apologise to you and to TYTM for my part. It has lowered this discussion.

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TRUEYOUTRUEME
Agreed. I apologise to you and to TYTM for my part. It has lowered this discussion.

From my point of view, I gladly accept your apology and hope that we can get past this and back on topic.

All the best!

Edited by TRUEYOUTRUEME

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