Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #26 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Göbekli Tepe ... (Turkey, 12000 years ago?) Sumerian ... ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .?) if these images don't show ,they are above in post #19. Assyrian ... (Iraq, 3000 years ago?) this is off Ove's topic of a possible connection between Göbekli Tepe and Easter Island... I'm just Interested that the 'basket' looking containers in these images[/u] seem to span a period of 9000 years! . ?¿? And, i'm wondering what they are... baskets for picking 'fruit' from the tree of life ..or.. "water of life" containers for watering the tree of life. ?¿? It seems that they were an important symbol for a very long time? The birdmen are priests picking fruit from the tree of life into their baskets. The bird head and bird wings only symbolize that they are Heavenly Men (Holy Men) A modern depiction of the same Maybe this is the 12 000 year old Göbekli Tepe fruit ? Edited February 25, 2010 by Ove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted February 25, 2010 #27 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Read about it here: This is the first post I ever made at Unexplained Mysteries. Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted February 25, 2010 #28 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Has it occurred to you that it might just be a bucket for example? This said, certain objects, like buckets or baskets, can only have so many forms. It stands to reason that the primitive first form, would be the most practical one, and most likely look quite the same. That all makes good sense Searcher, " It might just be a bucket" or basket... but, if so it must be an awfully special bucket or basket because the form is basically identical on the Göbekli Tepe relief.. the sumerian reliefs.. and the Assyrian reliefs . What would be important enough about it to appear , unchanged, on reliefs ,of Gods, for 9000 years? There seems to be something Very special , in the minds of the people who carved the reliefs, about the objects being held in the hands of various God forms, (the "Birdmen" Gods.. AND the Adapa/Oanne "Fishmen" Gods) , more important than a simple everyday bucket or basket? Ove, ... i don't know about the "Göbekli Tepe fruit " and i didn't know that some of the Old reliefs represent "Priests" and not Gods. All very interesting is all i know , thanks. Harte !, i just read all 5 pages and links of the Necro-Thread where your very first Post appeared .. and remains 'forever' enshrined for posterity I see from some of that.. that the explanation of the OBJECTS was leaning more toward containers for "water of life" or Holy Water or oil than fruit baskets. The thing that puzzles me most is .. how the Objects went from the hands of Birdmen Gods with Bird heads, to Birdmen Gods with Men heads, and into the anointing hands of Fishmen Gods/Priests, basically unchanged. the only thing that remains a constant is the container... for, what seems to be 9000 years! Edited February 25, 2010 by lightlyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted February 25, 2010 #29 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Read about it here: This is the first post I ever made at Unexplained Mysteries. Harte Good work Harte. Thanks for reposting that link as you bring up some good points. The basket/bag/bucket thing as you said could hold water or oil. I admit to being bias but is this possibly linked to the tree of knowledge (cannabis) and it's near magical properties of it's oil. Birdmen is a common shamanic symbol but perhaps the images represent shamans with bird heads rather than genuine theromorphs. I also, make a connection between the bags and the the Fir Bolg of celtic mythology. I, probably eroneously, see a resemblance between the Gobeleki temple and the Tau cross. I think it is found in America and obviously the near east through Tammuz. You da man lightly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted February 25, 2010 #30 Share Posted February 25, 2010 That all makes good sense Searcher, " It might just be a bucket" or basket... but, if so it must be an awfully special bucket or basket because the form is basically identical on the Göbekli Tepe relief.. the sumerian reliefs.. and the Assyrian reliefs . What would be important enough about it to appear , unchanged, on reliefs ,of Gods, for 9000 years? There seems to be something Very special , in the minds of the people who carved the reliefs, about the objects being held in the hands of various God forms, (the "Birdmen" Gods.. AND the Adapa/Oanne "Fishmen" Gods) , more important than a simple everyday bucket or basket? Ove, ... i don't know about the "Göbekli Tepe fruit " and i didn't know that some of the Old reliefs represent "Priests" and not Gods. All very interesting is all i know , thanks. Harte !, i just read all 5 pages and links of the Necro-Thread where your very first Post appeared .. and remains 'forever' enshrined for posterity I see from some of that.. that the explanation of the OBJECTS was leaning more toward containers for "water of life" or Holy Water or oil than fruit baskets. The thing that puzzles me most is .. how the Objects went from the hands of Birdmen Gods with Bird heads, to Birdmen Gods with Men heads, and into the anointing hands of Fishmen Gods/Priests, basically unchanged. the only thing that remains a constant is the container... for, what seems to be 9000 years! Like I said, a bucket can only have so many forms, how else would you depict it, holy bucket none withstanding. It still is in no way proof for connection. The connections we talk about here are all circumstancial at best. Things that can only be depicted in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #31 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Another important feature is the bird-mans V neck This 12 000 years old statue was found in Göbekli Tepe The V neck indicates that he was a bird-man (Heavenly Man) A modern depiction of the same Edited February 25, 2010 by Ove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #32 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Göbekli Tepe ... (Turkey, 12000 years ago?) Sumerian ... ( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .?) if these images don't show ,they are above in post #19. Assyrian ... (Iraq, 3000 years ago?) this is off Ove's topic of a possible connection between Göbekli Tepe and Easter Island... I'm just Interested that the 'basket' looking containers in these images[/u] seem to span a period of 9000 years! . ?¿? And, i'm wondering what they are... baskets for picking 'fruit' from the tree of life ..or.. "water of life" containers for watering the tree of life. ?¿? It seems that they were an important symbol for a very long time? Also Göbekli Tepe and Easter Island statues have little baskets Edited February 25, 2010 by Ove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #33 Share Posted February 25, 2010 BTW The birdman was attacked by a bison 16 000 years ago in France Lascaux cave in France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #34 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Which proves exactly nothing. Seems to me like you are desperately trying to link all cultures, in any way possible. why? There obviously is a link. The birdman and the tree of life is still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted February 25, 2010 #35 Share Posted February 25, 2010 BTW The birdman was attacked by a bison 16 000 years ago in France Lascaux cave in France LMAO!!! Hey, that's not a bison, that's one of them Sumerian Anunakkies. Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted February 25, 2010 #36 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) There are certain aspects of superstition that transcend cultures and that is likely the true connection here. Just being made up of the same stuff and having the same wonders and fears could be enough to account for these apparent sympathetic vibrations pointed out by the OP. Edited February 25, 2010 by sinewave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talion Posted February 25, 2010 #37 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Wow, great find. Have been keeping up on research on this site to see if more has been uneathered here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ove Posted February 25, 2010 Author #38 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) I would like to know what kind of tool carved out that animal 12 000 years ago ? Looks a bit like a Aztec dog Edited February 25, 2010 by Ove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talion Posted February 25, 2010 #39 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) I would like to know what kind of tool carved out that animal 12 000 years ago ? Here is a better look at it.The detailing was great even after 12,000 years later. Edited February 25, 2010 by Talion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted February 25, 2010 #40 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I would like to know what kind of tool carved out that animal 12 000 years ago ? Looks a bit like a Aztec dog Ancient carvings were accomplished by several methods. Hard stone against soft stone likely being the oldest one. Antlers and bone were used as were various natural abrasives like sand and later carborundum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted February 25, 2010 #41 Share Posted February 25, 2010 BTW The birdman was attacked by a bison 16 000 years ago in France Lascaux cave in France Look at the man's...uhm..thing.. I think that bison is about to give him, heheh, some sort of pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinewave Posted February 25, 2010 #42 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Look at the man's...uhm..thing.. I think that bison is about to give him, heheh, some sort of pleasure. So it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted February 25, 2010 #43 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Aliens messed with our DNA!!! This paiting is Proof!! PROOF I tells ya!!! Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted February 25, 2010 #44 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Like I said, a bucket can only have so many forms, how else would you depict it, holy bucket none withstanding. It still is in no way proof for connection. The connections we talk about here are all circumstancial at best. Things that can only be depicted in so many ways. ohhhh ! it's a bucket! lol , ok i see what you mean. it's a bucket. and it IS the connection. All of the images have ,in common, the buckets . I guess other connections are Geographical, and Religious? Sumer covered the areas occupied by turkey (Gobekli Tepe) and Iraq (Assyria) where all of these (Religious?) images have been found (Except for the one Jules found in Bolivia , lol) But isn't it interesting that the bucket remained unchanged as it was handed down for 9000 years? ... While the GodBirds/BirdMen/FishGodMen holding the bucket did vary and change ? ... , lol, the things have really peaked my curiosity is all ... i'll ease up and look into it more quietly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted February 25, 2010 #45 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) Also Göbekli Tepe and Easter Island statues have little baskets ohhh YES .. i see them now Ove, and i think that's very interesting! Makes me wonder what IN these buckets that makes them important enough to tote around for ,at least, 9000 years ?¿? it seems to be a very important and enduring idea ? Edited February 25, 2010 by lightlyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 26, 2010 #46 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) ohhhh ! it's a bucket! lol , ok i see what you mean. it's a bucket. and it IS the connection. All of the images have ,in common, the buckets . I guess other connections are Geographical, and Religious? Sumer covered the areas occupied by turkey (Gobekli Tepe) and Iraq (Assyria) where all of these (Religious?) images have been found (Except for the one Jules found in Bolivia , lol) But isn't it interesting that the bucket remained unchanged as it was handed down for 9000 years? ... While the GodBirds/BirdMen/FishGodMen holding the bucket did vary and change ? ... , lol, the things have really peaked my curiosity is all ... i'll ease up and look into it more quietly More correctly, it was Mesopotamia that covered much of this area. Sumer (as a civilization c.3500 BC) was located in southern Mesopotamia and didn't extend anywhere near Gobekli Tepe. Assyria itself was between the two, located in northern Mesopotamia and was about 1000+ years younger than its southern neighbor. cormac Edited February 26, 2010 by cormac mac airt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted February 26, 2010 #47 Share Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) More correctly, it was Mesopotamia that covered much of this area. Sumer (as a civilization c.3500 BC) was located in southern Mesopotamia and didn't extend anywhere near Gobekli Tepe. Assyria itself was between the two, located in northern Mesopotamia and was about 1000+ years younger than its southern neighbor. cormac ooops thank you very much for correcting me on that cormac... i mistook the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in this image for the boundaries of Sumer/ Sumeria. (it was tiny on the search page.. i wasn't sure how large Sumer was ) . Edited February 26, 2010 by lightlyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giavanna Posted February 26, 2010 #48 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The birdmen are priests picking fruit from the tree of life into their baskets. The bird head and bird wings only symbolize that they are Heavenly Men (Holy Men) A modern depiction of the same Maybe this is the 12 000 year old Göbekli Tepe fruit ? Looks like Nekhbet with the sun symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giavanna Posted February 26, 2010 #49 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The birdmen are Seraphim. You know how science says that birds are related to reptiles? Well I think these are the flaming serpents. They hold palm tree cones...but not ordinary palm tree cones. I can't remember which type. They are fertilizing the tree of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giavanna Posted February 26, 2010 #50 Share Posted February 26, 2010 The birdmen are Seraphim. You know how science says that birds are related to reptiles? Well I think these are the flaming serpents. They hold palm tree cones...but not ordinary palm tree cones. I can't remember which type. They are fertilizing the tree of life. The tree of life with the winged image over the tree is Asshur. I know sometimes his name is spelled a little differently but it is still pronounced the same. Asshur the Chaldean king/god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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