9/11 was an inside job

[Cosmored 0]

Look at this picture of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon.

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

It's too pointed to be the nose of a 757.

http://www.caverca.com/Images/Boeing%20757%20TACV%2001.jpg

The photo of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon was taken with a fish-eye lens which causes some distortion but the rest of the objects in the picture are not distorted to the same degree as the nose of a 757 would have to be to have that shape. The shadow line is visible under the nose and it's consistent with the shadow of the Pentagon.

The picture is consistent with these analyses.

http://www.physics911.net/missingwings

http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticlesMeyer3March2006.html

Also, we know that the Pentagon is about 75 feet high and that a 757 is about 150 feet long. If we look at the section of the Pentagon where the plane hit in the picture at the top of this page...

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

...and compare it with the space behind the box where the aircraft is, we can see that a 757 couldn't fit in that space without the nose protruding out front. The plane in the space behind the box is much too short to be a 757.

A 757 would look like this.

http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/pentagon/pentacamscam.jpg

This analysis makes it pretty clear that a 757 wouldn't fit behind the box.

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/911_part_iii.htm

Also, if you look at the fourth picture from the top on this page, you'll see the hole made by the craft.

http://www.physics911.net/missingwings

There would have been some damage from the wings of a 757. Look at the damage caused by the 767 on the side of the tower.

http://jabbajoo.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c0ac653ef00e5537c495d8834-pi

There's quite a difference.

Here's a blown up photo of the nose of the plane that hit the Pentagon.

http://www.sott.net/signs/editorials/signs20060517_NewDoctoredVideoofPentagonAttackReleaseConfirmsBoeingWasNotInvolved.php

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Is it more clear now? Can you see Flight 77 in all its glory? All we can see is an amorphous white blob that looks more like a car than the nose cone of any aircraft. Obviously the images are too grainy to be of any use to anyone. At this point then, the most we can say is that an amorphous white blob with definite Islamic terrorists leanings hit the Pentagon on 9/11.

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I agree with the person who wrote that it doesn't prove that a 757 hit the Pentagon but I disagree with his saying the photo isn't of any use to anyone. If we look at the high-resolution picture, it's obviously the nose of a fighter-type craft.

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Look at the second picture from the top on this page.

http://insider-outsider.blogspot.com/2006/05/what-new-pentagon-crash-video-should.html

I know the scale is wrong and the 757 is too big but it gives us an idea of what we should have seen in the video released by the government considering all the cameras that surround the Pentagon.

At the 3:55 time mark of this video it's pointed out that there were lots of cameras at the Pentagon.

They must have footage of the craft hitting the Pentagon. They just don't want us to see it because we'll know it wasn't a 757.

These three articles are important.

http://www.physics911.net/omholt

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/why-they-didnt-use-757-to-hit-pentagon.html

http://www.physics911.net/georgenelson

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In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft — and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling.

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There are some good documentaries in this link.

http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

Be sure to watch "9/11 Mysteries" and "Painful Deceptions".

This stuff below is good too. The first two deal with the "Thermite" issue which is important.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047

http://www.wtc7.net/articles/WhyIndeed09.pdf

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/why-they-didnt-use-757-to-hit-pentagon.html

In this clip the representative from NIST is playing dumb about the pools of molten steel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS4TIYF68A

Here's a 6 part video about group of arquitects that think 9/11 was in inside job.

I think that those people who put forth the no-plane theory, etc are governnment disinfo agents trying to cause disruption in the 9/11 truth movement. If there are some wacko theories out there that make the official version look logical by comparison, fewer people will join the truth movement.

http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

This article deals with that subject.

http://pseudonautics.blogspot.com/2008/11/disinformation-techniques.html

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The best way to harm a cause is to defend it using wrong arguments.

This is why, every time there is a government conspiracy, you have a load of kooks making ridiculous claims to discredit critics by association.

Concerning 911, you have pod people, holograms, WTC nuclear devices, and directed energy weapons from space.

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So does this video.

http://skoolpool.com/watch?v=HYedTmaHt1A

(7:22 and 9:32 time marks)

They pulled off the 9/11 attack so they would have a pretext to invade the Middle East to get control of the oil there. This is an old story.

http://video.google.es/videosearch?q=terror+storm#

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO301A.html

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/chossudovsky/fabricatingenemy.htm

Here's some stuff about the history of US and British meddling in the Middle East.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2002/1000history.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/history/britishindex.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/irqindx.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2003/2003companiesiniraq.htm

http://www.war-times.org/pdf/Oil%20leaflet.pdf

http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/intervention/2004/1007oilprotection.htm

These two are important.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3117338213439292490

Here's some more stuff.

http://killtown.911review.org/911links.html#forums

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/claim.html

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2005/11/where-pentagon-was-hit.html

http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/theories.html#5

http://www.netctr.com/media.html

http://www.netctr.com/911exposed.html

[Rhomphaia 1]

Okay, this guy made a similar post about the moon hoax. How many want to bet that this is just a nutter spamming from a Tin-Foil Hat Society website.

[Belial 110]

10/10 for effort my friend, but i have one question.

How can ANYONE say that the 'nose' of whatever hit the pentagon was either too pointy or bluntish looking, by the video footage available, i can't even make out that it's an aircraft with people in it or even if it's a rocket or a flying cucumber with a curly white wig on

[J.B. 2]

Doesn't matter. This isn't something that is being debated or accepted as fact by mainstream, so it's likely to get bumped to the Conspiracy section soon enough.

[Cosmored 0]

How can ANYONE say that the 'nose' of whatever hit the pentagon was either too pointy or bluntish looking, by the video footage available, i can't even make out that it's an aircraft with people in it or even if it's a rocket or a flying cucumber with a curly white wig on

Pro-official story people seem to have the special ability not to see what everyone else can see. It's the nose of a figher-like craft. The shadow line is visible and is consistent with the shadow of the Pentagon.

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Also...

Any junior high school student can print this picture,...

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

... increase the size of the space behind the box that's between its left side and the tail of the craft by about twenty percent to allow for the angle, and put that length next to the part of the Pentagon that is as far from the craft as the camera is and see that it's not twice the height of the Pentagon....

http://www.aviewoncities.com/buildings/washington/pentagon.htm

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/technical.html

...as if would be if it were a 757. Whatever that craft was, it was too short to be a 757.

[Rhomphaia 1]

Pro-official story people seem to have the special ability not to see what everyone else can see.

It would help your case if you didn't insult the intelligence of the people you are trying to convince. For example;

"Pro-inside job people seem to have the special ability to see things that aren't there." Then post a bunch of links. After a line like this, I could post links to goatse, lemonparty and ******** and conspiracy hypothesists would never know the difference because they would have been turned off by the opening line.

Get a grip and stop thinking you are better than those who do not think the same way you do.

[Cosmored 0]

This isn't something that is being debated or accepted as fact by mainstream

The mainstream is the worst place to get information.

http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc

http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Propaganda_System_One.html

Somewhere around the 30 minute mark this scientist talks about science fraud.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3626298989248030643

In this video a scientist talks about how information in scientific journals is controlled.

(00:16 time mark)

We are lied to about history too.

http://mtwsfh.blogspot.com/

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=economic+hitman&aq=f

We are lied to about news, science, and history.

[J.B. 2]

The mainstream is the worst place to get information.

http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc

http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Propaganda_System_One.html

Somewhere around the 30 minute mark this scientist talks about science fraud.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3626298989248030643

In this video a scientist talks about how information in scientific journals is controlled.

(00:16 time mark)

We are lied to about history too.

http://mtwsfh.blogspot.com/

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=economic+hitman&aq=f

We are lied to about news, science, and history.

I was remarking on the seeming credentials of what goes where on this site, and your posts scream conspiracy, just by the title of the thread. So can it already.

[frenat 872]

Pro-official story people seem to have the special ability not to see what everyone else can see. It's the nose of a figher-like craft. The shadow line is visible and is consistent with the shadow of the Pentagon.

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

Also...

Any junior high school student can print this picture,...

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

... increase the size of the space behind the box that's between its left side and the tail of the craft by about twenty percent to allow for the angle, and put that length next to the part of the Pentagon that is as far from the craft as the camera is and see that it's not twice the height of the Pentagon....

http://www.aviewoncities.com/buildings/washington/pentagon.htm

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/technical.html

...as if would be if it were a 757. Whatever that craft was, it was too short to be a 757.

That's assuming that the nose would be visible. How quickly does that camera capture an image? How much would the plane move while the frame is being captured? How much would a blurry (from two sources, the low resolution of the camera and the motion of the plane during frame capture) image show up?

I agree that this is the wrong forum. But this is Cosmored aka Rocky aka DavidC. If it is moved it will just be personal proof to him that this entire forum is run by the government and exists only to censor him. I wish I were exaggerating. He is good for humor though.

[Belial 110]

So the 'great' daveyC is amongst us

[Cosmored 0]

How much would the plane move while the frame is being captured?

In the picture it did all its moving in an area that was not long enough to be the length of a 757.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

[frenat 872]

In the picture it did all its moving in an area that was not long enough to be the length of a 757.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

You're missing the point. I think it likely that the nose is extending past the box. However, because the camera is not designed to capture something at that speed or that distance it is far too blurry to make out. That is why only the tail (still blurry by the way) is visible as the contrast against the sky is so much greater. It is funny that you're using a site that can't figure out that the video was ONE frame per second. Like I said, good for humor.

Again, this is in the wrong section.

[Space Commander Travis 50,163]

A thread about the Pentagon and 9/11.

I wonder why no one thought of this before??

[Belial 110]

Click this good link and we can all go to BED

[Cosmored 0]

You're missing the point. I think it likely that the nose is extending past the box.

There's a hedge in the background of the picture.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

If the nose were extending past the box, the hedge would be blocked.

[frenat 872]

There's a hedge in the background of the picture.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

If the nose were extending past the box, the hedge would be blocked.

Assuming the resolution is good enough to make out the hedge. Oh wait, it isn't. Or AGAIN if the plane wasn't moving while the frame was being captured causing it to be blurry. Oh wait, it was.

AGAIN, wrong section.

[Princess Serenity 2,317]

This topic has been beaten to death. And I'll say it again, what I saw is what I saw. I believe what happened on the television in front of my young eyes. I don't think the government murdered over 2,000 lives in one day. They were monsters and still are in my eyes. All of them.

[Cosmored 0]

Click this good link and we can all go to BED

There are lots of damage-control sites like this one.

http://www.flight77.info/

Show us where it proves the craft behind the box was long enough to be a 757.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

[joshsluss 0]

This topic has been beaten to death. And I'll say it again, what I saw is what I saw. I believe what happened on the television in front of my young eyes. I don't think the government murdered over 2,000 lives in one day. They were monsters and still are in my eyes. All of them.

Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.

[Princess Serenity 2,317]

Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.

Hm.

Thanks for the quote. ^^

[Cosmored 0]

And I'll say it again, what I saw is what I saw. I believe what happened on the television in front of my young eyes

I'm sorry but this doesn't make the evidence go away. Evidence trumps testimony as there is the plausible scenario that witnesses have been planted: this would be expected in an operation as complex as this one.

[President-Elect Acidhead 12,081]

Here is the often self-proclaimed commander-in-chief responding urgently and responsibly to the 911 attacks immediately after being informed.

Edited April 10, 2010 by acidhead

[Belial 110]

And again we see america for what it was Just hope the new guy does it better

[Cosmored 0]

Assuming the resolution is good enough to make out the hedge.

I can see the hedge. Therefore, the resolution was good enough to make it out.

http://0911.site.voila.fr/index3.htm

[joshsluss 0]

Here is the often self-proclaimed commander-in-chief responding urgently and responsibly to the 911 attacks immediately after being informed.

lmao.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but in that photo he has the look of knowledge as if he's been waiting for this to happen. An "It's time" look on his face. Childrens book in hand, he knew Iraq was but a stepping stone away...