Hanslune Posted April 15, 2021 #1001 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Abramelin said: It doesn't look like it's the result of a digital glitch, it's too complex: Yes a possible site. I would suggest contacting this person or other expert in this area https://www.wessexarch.co.uk/people/claire-mellett She will probably know who would be knowledgeable about that area of the Doggerland/interested in that issue/idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted April 15, 2021 #1002 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Abramelin said: It doesn't look like it's the result of a digital glitch, it's too complex: Would agree. There does not appear to be the type of pixelation associated with digital glitches. Have you explored possible petrol-related, etc. origins? The double berm on the "west" is curious and well preserved given the environment. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 15, 2021 #1003 Share Posted April 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, Swede said: Would agree. There does not appear to be the type of pixelation associated with digital glitches. Have you explored possible petrol-related, etc. origins? The double berm on the "west" is curious and well preserved given the environment. . However, cannot rule out technology glitches until we can compare various other views of the same data/area 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 16, 2021 #1004 Share Posted April 16, 2021 19 hours ago, Swede said: Would agree. There does not appear to be the type of pixelation associated with digital glitches. Have you explored possible petrol-related, etc. origins? The double berm on the "west" is curious and well preserved given the environment. . You mean the 2 verticals on the left. I noticed that too. But I was thinking about finding detailed bathymetric charts of the Entenschnabel river system. The formation borders it at the north side. If I don't have any luck with that, I will send an email to Claire Mellet, as Hans suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 16, 2021 #1005 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Abramelin said: You mean the 2 verticals on the left. I noticed that too. But I was thinking about finding detailed bathymetric charts of the Entenschnabel river system. The formation borders it at the north side. If I don't have any luck with that, I will send an email to Claire Mellet, as Hans suggested. I would suggest her and as many other geoarchaeologists you can find. Should be dozens of them in UK, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted April 16, 2021 #1006 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I’ve looked and haven’t been able to find any worthwhile bathymetry for the Entenschnabel river system. The best I’ve seen suggests IMO a possible elevation at the start of said system, ie. possible start of a watershed. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted April 16, 2021 #1007 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Hanslune said: However, cannot rule out technology glitches until we can compare various other views of the same data/area True. A higher resolution DEM would be of value. If one had the original file, one could load it into ArcGIS and play with the azimuth (lighting angle). This can often reveal additional detail. Edit: Typo. . Edited April 16, 2021 by Swede 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted April 16, 2021 #1008 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Abramelin said: You mean the 2 verticals on the left. I noticed that too. But I was thinking about finding detailed bathymetric charts of the Entenschnabel river system. The formation borders it at the north side. If I don't have any luck with that, I will send an email to Claire Mellet, as Hans suggested. Affirmative. Interestingly enough, the berms of late 19th century/early 20th century logging camps not uncommonly had trenches around the perimeters of their structural berms. The trenches were the borrow source for the berm soils. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1009 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) I haven't found any other source online for the chart, but by downloading the paper that contained the posted grey bathymetric chart, I discovered that thàt chart was more detailed. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315631761_Phased_occupation_and_retreat_of_the_last_British-Irish_Ice_Sheet_in_the_southern_North_Sea_geomorphic_and_seismostratigraphic_evidence_of_a_dynamic_ice_lobe And here again the formation: Edit: The coordinates of the 'dot' in the middle of the formation are: 55°15' North Latitude 5°04' East Longitude. That's as accurate as I could manage using my smartphone and an atlas. Edited April 17, 2021 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1010 Share Posted April 17, 2021 About contacting one of the researchers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 17, 2021 #1011 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Abramelin said: About contacting one of the researchers: Well you are researching so why not join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1012 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hanslune said: Well you are researching so why not join? It's not that easy. I can only give them my private email address, and in that case they will have to do some extra checks to verify what institution I work for, and in what position, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted April 17, 2021 #1013 Share Posted April 17, 2021 So, are you saying it is impossible to contact or communicate in anyway whatsoever with any Geoarchaeologist? Try snail mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted April 17, 2021 #1014 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I AM a member of ResearchGate and have many followers. None of this figures in current RG papers, so I dont know where this "data" comes from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1015 Share Posted April 17, 2021 It's a damn conspiracy, I tell ya! Just look at this map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1016 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, keithisco said: I AM a member of ResearchGate and have many followers. None of this figures in current RG papers, so I dont know where this "data" comes from I posted pic AND paper, both found on ResearchGate. Check the links, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1017 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) On 4/15/2021 at 7:26 PM, Hanslune said: Yes a possible site. I would suggest contacting this person or other expert in this area https://www.wessexarch.co.uk/people/claire-mellett She will probably know who would be knowledgeable about that area of the Doggerland/interested in that issue/idea. Claire Mellet is a good choice: she is actually one of the 8 researchers contributing to the paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315631761_Phased_occupation_and_retreat_of_the_last_British-Irish_Ice_Sheet_in_the_southern_North_Sea_geomorphic_and_seismostratigraphic_evidence_of_a_dynamic_ice_lobe And your link could be an alternative route to get in contact with her. Well, maybe Keithisco comes up with info from his contacts on the ResearchGate site. Edited April 17, 2021 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1018 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Abramelin said: It's a damn conspiracy, I tell ya! Just look at this map: I was kidding of course, and too late to edit, but those who developed the survey area neatly skipped the area of the formation. Either it was something so bloody obvious that no one would bother to ask why, or .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted April 17, 2021 #1019 Share Posted April 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I was kidding of course, and too late to edit, but those who developed the survey area neatly skipped the area of the formation. Either it was something so bloody obvious that no one would bother to ask why, or .. Have you tried looking for a bathymetric map of Denmark’s economic fishing zone? cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 17, 2021 #1020 Share Posted April 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Have you tried looking for a bathymetric map of Denmark’s economic fishing zone? cormac I didn't. Did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted April 17, 2021 #1021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Abramelin said: I didn't. Did you? No and I’m busy with yard work right now and fixing to cook after I’m done. Thought I’d throw an idea your way. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 18, 2021 #1022 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, cormac mac airt said: Have you tried looking for a bathymetric map of Denmark’s economic fishing zone? cormac I did look at Denmark's economic fishing zone, and... https://data.geus.dk/geusmap/?mapname=oil_and_gas&lang=en#baslay=&optlay=&extent=106265.625,5690210.9375,900015.625,6894726.5625&layers=samba_wellbores,dkterritorialgraense,oil_and_gas_basemap&filter_0=txt_search.part%3D ....it's not about fishing. I think the 'mystery' has been solved. < sigh > Edited April 18, 2021 by Abramelin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 18, 2021 #1023 Share Posted April 18, 2021 One positive thing - after finding an ancient group of oil rigs of the past century - is that the White Bank, located in the Danish Central Graben, is indeed part of an ancient layer of chalk. Next: could the White Bank have been much longer above sea level than the rest of Doggerland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted April 18, 2021 #1024 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 7:06 PM, keithisco said: I AM a member of ResearchGate and have many followers. None of this figures in current RG papers, so I dont know where this "data" comes from @keithisco Can you provide me of any info concerning the White Bank in the North Sea? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted April 18, 2021 #1025 Share Posted April 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Abramelin said: @keithisco Can you provide me of any info concerning the White Bank in the North Sea? Thanks in advance. I will sincerely see what I can find. Been out all day celebrating my future Son-in-Law's birthday. Socially distanced of course, but nice pub lunch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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