shadowhive Posted April 14, 2010 #101 Share Posted April 14, 2010 If he wasn't the Pope and he was just an ordinary person covering up these crimes, then he'd be arrested on the spot. His position shouldn't give him one ounce of immunity. The fact that he's the head of a major religion, to me anyway, only makes me think what he's done is worse. He's just the worst kind of hypocrite and he gets away with it because a bunch of old men appointed him as 'go'd figurehead'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudo Intellectual Posted April 14, 2010 #102 Share Posted April 14, 2010 So? Why would the intent have any affect on the outcome? I don't think anybody's going to arrest the Pope any time soon, Aquatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted April 14, 2010 #103 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't think anybody's going to arrest the Pope any time soon, Aquatus. I kinda have that feeling to and it sucks. The Vatican needs a good spring cleaning from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted April 14, 2010 #104 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't think anybody's going to arrest the Pope any time soon, Aquatus. If Dawkin's group manages to get an arrest warrant, and they do this publicly, the police won't have a choice. This right here is why this is so pivotal. There is currently a concept that the pope is sacrosanct. This would be the event that shatters that perception. Even for non-Catholics, the concept that the pope would be arrested is difficult to accept. But why? Why wouldn't he be arrested? The only thing that is protecting the pope from arrest is the perception of him as the pope. Remove that utterly artificial protection, and there is really nothing left but a totally secular office job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggs Posted April 14, 2010 #105 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I don't think anybody's going to arrest the Pope any time soon, Aquatus. Funnily enough, he could have faced trial back in 2005 in a lawsuit from Texas. However, the Vatican's lawyers asked President Bush to grant the Pope legal immunity from prosecution. Which he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted April 14, 2010 #106 Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) If Dawkin's group manages to get an arrest warrant, and they do this publicly, the police won't have a choice. This right here is why this is so pivotal. There is currently a concept that the pope is sacrosanct. This would be the event that shatters that perception. Even for non-Catholics, the concept that the pope would be arrested is difficult to accept. But why? Why wouldn't he be arrested? The only thing that is protecting the pope from arrest is the perception of him as the pope. Remove that utterly artificial protection, and there is really nothing left but a totally secular office job. Wow talk about a shake up. This is going to be huge. Just seems people in power get away with an awfull lot. Edited April 14, 2010 by The Silver Thong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. Posted April 14, 2010 #107 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Wow talk about a shake up. This is going to be huge. Just seems people in power get away with an awfull lot. If it happens, it'll be huge. If not, they'll have damaged the reputation of atheism, assuming there's anything left to damage in the first place. It's a huge gamble, so they'd better pull it off, or they'll have sunk themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted April 15, 2010 #108 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If it happens, it'll be huge. If not, they'll have damaged the reputation of atheism, assuming there's anything left to damage in the first place. It's a huge gamble, so they'd better pull it off, or they'll have sunk themselves. How would they damage it? Why would it sink them? Obviously, this isn't about the arrest; that will either happen or not happen. So, it must be about the trial. In what way could the trial possibly end in which it would make atheists look bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. Posted April 15, 2010 #109 Share Posted April 15, 2010 How would they damage it? Why would it sink them? Obviously, this isn't about the arrest; that will either happen or not happen. So, it must be about the trial. In what way could the trial possibly end in which it would make atheists look bad? They're taking on the Pope. If this happens and the trial finds him not guilty. . . alright, it might just make the U.K. legal system lose what little good rep it still has, assuming it has any at all. I can't imagine a not guilty verdict is going to improve the way Catholics look at these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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