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The Strange Tale of "Dr. 58"


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All this discussion reminds me of what a frustrated Isaac Newton once said when people kept asking him to explain his overall theory of light on a deeper and more meaningful level. Newton ultimately gave up on the “whys” and stuck with a certain narrow band of “what” and “how.” He said:

“If you ask me what “red” is, I can only tell you that it is a number, a certain degree of refrangibility, and the same is true for each of the other colors. I have measured it, that is enough.”

Is the “real red” just one of Newton’s numbers -- and nothing more? Are we all still using Newton’s brand of “positivism” to explain all aspects of our world? It’s something to think about.

Anyway:

With everyone wondering about the “what” “how” “why’s” of this Ouija generated information, I sometimes feel like saying:

“I’m only posting the transcripts here, that is enough.”

At the risk of inciting more drama (which I don't really enjoy all that much), I will probably post at least the material I have on the “satellite disasters” and the “flood of horrors” -- after that … ????

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IronGhost, I have read several of your Ouija transcripts in the past. Every one of them has been fascinating and entertaining. This one is no exception at all. If your intent in posting them has been to fascinate and entertain, then you have hit a bullseye!

I am sure it is a tedious process to type them all in here. Add to that the minority of vocal detractors, and it makes me wonder why you make the effort.

No matter what your motivation is, I hope you know that most of us are really enjoying your transcripts. Please post more! Do you have a blog or archive of your transcripts?

Never mind. I did a search and found your site. I think I am going to get very little work done today ;)

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All this discussion reminds me of what a frustrated Isaac Newton once said when people kept asking him to explain his overall theory of light on a deeper and more meaningful level. Newton ultimately gave up on the “whys” and stuck with a certain narrow band of “what” and “how.” He said:

“If you ask me what “red” is, I can only tell you that it is a number, a certain degree of refrangibility, and the same is true for each of the other colors. I have measured it, that is enough.”

Is the “real red” just one of Newton’s numbers -- and nothing more? Are we all still using Newton’s brand of “positivism” to explain all aspects of our world? It’s something to think about.

Anyway:

With everyone wondering about the “what” “how” “why’s” of this Ouija generated information, I sometimes feel like saying:

“I’m only posting the transcripts here, that is enough.”

At the risk of inciting more drama (which I don't really enjoy all that much), I will probably post at least the material I have on the “satellite disasters” and the “flood of horrors” -- after that … ????

Very interested in reading these two transcripts. Will be watching for your posts.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh IronGhost i just got an email on my phone saying you just posted on here so i ran back here to read it because i thought it was the next installment and its you saying youre probably only gonna post two more.... Im like a damn crack baby with this story i dont wanna be left hanging here AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I have a lot of experience with the Ouija and I think this is legit.

One thing that I would ask is from what incident they count their years. Jesus is obviously not that important in their world, so their 1950:es might not be at the same time as our 1950:es at all.

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I've just joined recently, and on this topic - whether real or not - I have yet to make up my mind.

However I am very entertained by the tale of Dr.58, and if it turned out to be either way it wouldn't matter as I am interested in the reading of it regardless.

(Apparently I registered over a year ago? Eeek I guess I got really lazy?!)

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Im gonna say that all the Canadians is Dr.58 universe are giants with super freeze breath and they freeze the great lakes weekly so they can play hockey because its the only sport they are good at. Im starting to think Halak is from that universe which how good he played against the penguins.... How about that one aye? LOL

You have got a good imagination there Davedini.That was a awsome game,eh! :lol:

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You have got a good imagination there Davedini.That was a awsome game,eh! :lol:

[/quotet It's much deeper than that. Does IG REALLY believe he's getting this information is coming from a ouiji board. This is not a game. We understand so little.

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New Rule, no debating or talking about whther any of this is "real" or "made-up" until someone can objectively prove what is reality and what isn't.

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I can't believe this made me sign in. I'm not really a paranormal person, but really, in this case, who the hell cares? This is an entertaining story using a Ouija board to frame the story.

I honestly can't believe so many people are flocking to this to claim that it's not true and impossible and Ouija Boards don't work. This is a goddamn Paranormal forum. I would guess most skeptics, most people who can't stand people who talk about things that are unexplained by the normal world, wouldn't hang around here.

I mean, come on... This is an entertaining story and you literally lose nothing for suspending your disbelief for it. ironGhost isn't claiming to discovering the secrets of the universe, isn't selling anything, isn't really saying anything that's particularly revolutionizing for us. He's relating what a person from an alternate universe is saying, and it's entertaining.

So, yeah, if you can't stand this kind of stuff, why do you come at all to say how much you can't believe it?

Maybe I was going about it the wrong way. Maybe I should be attacking the awful, ridiculous story instead of the fact that Ouija boards are entirely fake.

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(Note: The Dr. 58 session continue, here with some preliminaries eliminated)

Question: Dr. 58, before we get bogged down in a million details, can we talk about the satellite disasters you mentioned earlier?

ANSWER:. IT WAS A PROJECT OF THE REICH. IT WAS A DISASTER FOR THEM. FRIGHTENING. IT SHATTERED THE POWER ORDER OF THE WORLD.

Question: Wow! How did it do that, I mean shatter the national world order?

ANSWER: IT LEFT THE NAZI TECHNOLOGICAL DOCTRINE IN QUESTION. IT SHOOK UP THE PSYCHE OF THE WORLD. IT CHANGED THE WAY PEOPLE VIEW THE ORDER OF NATIONS.

Question: What did the Nazi’s try to do?

ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH EXCITEMENT. THEY SOUGHT TO SET THEIR SATELLITE EYES UPON MINNESOTA FROM SPACE. THEY THOUGHT A NEW ERA WOULD FOLLOW.

Question: Let us back up a bit. Why was this a project of the Reich? Don’t American have satellite technology?

ANSWER: NO, OF COURSE NOT.

Question: That seems astounding to us. Here in our world, America is the premier nation in space exploration and technology. We are the only nation to travel to the moon. We have a gigantic space station, a space shuttle, satellites of all kinds. You say your America has none of this?

ANSWER: NO. WHAT YOU SAY IS AMAZING TO ME. DO THE NAZIS HOLD INFLUENCE IN YOUR AMERICA?

Question: No! As I have told you, we fought a lengthy world war to rid the world of the Nazis. What they stood for is considered heinous by just about everyone, all nation today. But you seem to equate Nazism with technology. Is that the case?

ANSWER: THE NAZI’S MAKE TECHNOLOGY THEIR CENTRAL DOCTRINE.

Question: As you have said. But doesn’t America and other countries embrace technology as well?

ANSWER: NONE AS EXCLUSIVELY AS THE NAZIS.

Question: What would you say is the central doctrine of the American culture in your world?

ANSWER: WE DO NOT HAVE A CENTRAL DOCTRINE. THAT IS OUR STRENGTH. TECHNOLOGY HAS PLACE, BUT NOT SWAY.

Question: Well, what level of technology would you say you have in your society?

ANSWER: IT IS MOSTLY MACRO AND SO ABOVE THE MAJORITY. YOU ASK ABOUT THINGS I TAKE AS NORMAL.

Question: Well, do you have automobiles, computers, electricity, automated factories, telephones, you know, all that stuff?

ANSWER: IT’S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THERE IS ELECTRICITY, BUT THAT’S MORE ON THE MACRO SCALE THAN MICRO SCALE.

Question: The macro scale. Hmmm. You know what, you said that you have money in your society, but you seemed confused -- or amused -- that you or your parents would be concerned with obtaining or using money. I’m going to make a guess: Money, like technology in your world, is used on a macro scale of society and not a micro scale of general society? Am I right?

ASNWER: YOU UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS SO WELL, YET IN OTHERS WAYS, YOU ARE MORE IGNORANT THAN A CHILD. YOU ARE STRANGE.

Question: Ha, ha! You’re starting to sound like my wife. But before we go too far astray again. Let’s get back to this satellite business. Do the Nazis have a very advanced ability to conduct remote sensing from space? That is, can their satellites peer down at the earth with great accuracy?

ANSWER: THAT WAS THE CASE, YES. I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK.

Question: When I think about it, this must have seemed very exciting. I mean, you said that even the air space over Minnesota is a no-fly zone. So the advent of space-based satellites must have been seen as an opportunity to shed light on one of the oldest mysteries in your world -- just what the hell is going on inside Minnesota, right?

ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY RIGHT. BUT THE ENTIRE WORLD TREMBLED, AS WELL.

Question: Why?

ANSWER: IS THERE ANY WONDER? THEY WERE GOING TO ENCROACH ON THE FORBIDDEN, THE MOST MYSTERIOUS ASPECT OF THE WORLD. THEY WERE PLAYING GOD. STILL, IT CUTS BOTH WAYS IN THE AMERICAS.

Question: What do you mean cuts both ways?

ANSWER: OF COURSE, AMERICANS HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR FROM NAZI TECHNOLOGY, NOR THE WEAK FORCE OF THE MAYAN EMPIRE OR THE CHARCHIMECS FOR … FOR ALL OTHERS FEAR MINNESOTA AT THE HEART OF AMERICA.

Question: Ahhhhhh!!!! Dr. 58, just when we think we’re getting somewhere you throw in a major curve ball! The Weak Force of the Mayan Empire!!!! Mayan Empire! Don’t tell me that you have a Mayan Empire in your world!

ASNWER: YOU DON’T? WHO INHABITS THE LANDS TO THE SOUTH?

Question: A nation called Mexico! Ahhhhhh!!! I can’t stand it! Yes, there was a Mayan Empire there centuries ago, but they were devastated by the Spanish Conquistadors beginning in the 1500s. Only a few ruins of the Mayan Empire remain, and the Mayan people are scattered and marginalized. There culture destroyed. Nothing like this ever happened in your world?

ASNWER: NO. THE MAYANS WENT FROM STRONG FORCE TO WEAK, BUT RETAIN MUCH POWER.

Question: What do you mean by “strong” and “weak”? What exactly are you talking about there?

ANSWER: STRONG MAGIC, WEAK MAGIC.

Question: Oh my. What kind of magic are you talking about?

ANSWER: THEY ARE AN ANCIENT RACE OF ANCIENT POWERS AS VESTED TO THEM FROM THEIR DEMI GOD, QUETZAL.

Question: Wow! You mean Quetzalcoatl, right?

ANSWER: SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I’M NOT AN EXPERT.

Question: Earlier you said your parents infused star water from the Quetzal Cluster. Is there a connection?

ANSWER: THE MAYANS REGARD THE DEMI GOD QUETZAL TO HAVE COME TO EARTH FROM THE QUEZTAL STAR CLUSTER.

Question: Is this considered largely to be myth?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

Question: Well, I mean, I’m wondering if there is any proof that Quetzal came to earth from another star system, if this was considered to be a real event. Or let ,me put it this way, since anything seems to be possible here. Have there really been visitors from other planets to earth that you know of?

ANSWER: I THINK IT IS THE CASE THAT THE MAYAN GOD MAN CAME FROM THE STARS.

Question: Well, do they still have Quetzalcoatl’s spacecraft enshrined somewhere? Do they have obvious implements of alien technology or implements?

ASNWER: THAT QUETZAL CAME FROM THE STARS IS MANIFEST.

Question: How so?

ANSWER: IT WOULD EXPLAIN MAYAN MAGIC.

Question: What kind of magic do they have?

ANSWER: OF GREAT SCOPE. THOUGH NOW WEAK AND NO LONGER STRONG.

Question: This is obviously such a huge can of worms, I’m not going to get pulled into it right now. Let’s put the Mayans aside for now and get back to the satellites. Can you summarize what happened in the satellite disaster? What was the main outcome? Wait a minute, wait a minute, you mentioned the Charchimecs. Who are they?

ANSWER: A LESSER NATION OF THE PYRAMID BUILDERS. THEY INHABIT THAT LAND BETWEEN AMERICA AND THE MAYAN NATION.

Question: Like maybe around Texas? Do you have a Texas, a state in America?

ASNWER: THE CHARCHIMEC CENTRAL TEMPLE CITY IS TEXCHO. THE CHARCHIMECS ARE OBSTREPERITES AND INSURRECTIONISTS, BUT KEEP TO THEMSELVES.

Question: They are a violent people?

ANSWER: YES. BUT THEY ARE INWARD FOCUSED. THEY HAVE LITTLE TIME FOR THE MORE SUBTLE AND ELEGANT STARLIGHT CULTURE OF AMERICANS.

Question: Brother! Well, how do they get along with the Mayans?

ANSWER: THE MAYANS ARE SUBTLE BEYOND THEM AS WELL.

Question: (Much drooling over wanting to know more, but determined to move on). Let’s just get back to the satellites. What happened? Just tell us, in a nutshell, what was the result of this Nazi attempt to examine Minnesota from space-based platforms?

ANSWER: CHOAS. TERROR. FEW NAZIS SURVIVED. MANY ON THE FRINGE OF THE PROJECT ESCAPED TO AMERICA AND WENT SOCMAL. SOME SAUGHT REFUGE WITH THE CHARCHIMECS. SOME APPEALED TO MAYAN MAGIC. SOME CRAZY NAZIS WENT TO MINNESOTA.

Question: Ahhhhhhhh!!! What happened? What did the Nazi’s see? What information did they get from their satellite data? What did they see down in Minnesota?

ASNWER: THEY WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO SEE ANYTHING IN MINNESOTA, OR IF THEY DID IT WAS TERRIBLE BEYOND IMAGINING. EVERYONE WAS DEAD. AND MORE THAN DEAD.

Question: Who was dead? (Asking this while restraining ourselves from asking about “More than dead”)!

ANSWER; EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT. THE FACILITY WHERE THE INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED ON EARTH WAS … A NIGHTMARE.

Question: Where was the ground receiving station of the satellite telemetry?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW TELEMETRY. THE NAZI’S HAVE AN ISLAND NEAR THE EQUATER. THEY CALL IT KRUPP. FROM THERE THEY RECEIVED THEIR INFORMATION FROM SPACE. KRUPP IS NO LONGER INHABITED.

Question: So the Nazi’s had these extensive facilities -- I suppose building and receiving stations and such on the Island of Krupp, and this was the central location where all the space based information obtained by scanning Minnesota was to be received and processed? Were there many people there?

ANSWER: YES. MAYBE 200 OR 300 NAZI TECHNOCRATS.

Question: Well how did it all unfold? When was the first indication that something went wrong?

ANSWER: AFTER INFORMATION BEGAN COMING DOWN TO KRUPP FROM SPACE, STRANGE EVENTS BEGAN TO OCCUR.

Question: Like what?

ANSWER: COMMUNICATION WITH EVERYONE ON KRUPP QUICKLY SILENCED.

Question: I assume the Krupp technocrats were communicating electronically with a home base, perhaps back in Europe, in Germany, or wherever the Nazi’s have their primary location.

ANSWER: YOU USE STRANGE TERMS. EUROPE?

Question: Arrggggg! (Seriously not wanting to get bogged down again). Well, wherever the primary Nazi cities are located. Were the Krupp technocrats in communication with outside facilities?

ANSWER: YES. AND THERE WERE MANY NAZI SHIPS OFF SHORE, IN THE SEA SURROUNDING KRUPP.

Question: Okay, they start getting data from space about Minnesota, communication goes dead. What then?

ANSWER: IT ALMOST SEEMS …. WRONG … TO SPEAK OF IT. FROM THE SHIPS BLACK SMOKE COULD BE SEEN RISING FROM ONE OF THE KRUPP ISLAND BUIDLINGS … THEN …

Question: Yes? And then?

ANSWER: AN ABOMINATION CAME FORTH. THREE MEN BECOME ONE MAN. BUT NOW WITH WINGS. AN ABOMINATION MAN. THREE MEN JOINED, ALMOST NAKED WITH LONG WINGS OF LEATHER. DANGLING TENTICLES. IT FLEW TOWARD A NAZI SHIP.

Question: Good lord. What are we talking about here? Let’s try to get this straight. Somehow, through some sorcery or devilry three Nazi human beings were fused into a single body, cojoined as some kind of grotesque flying man creature with wings and tentacles?

ANSWER: YES. THEY STILL HAD SHREDS OF THEIR UNIFORMS ON. THESE WERE THREE NAZI MEN FUSED, TRANSFORMED INTO A MONSTER.

Question: And it flew at the ship? What did it do?

ANSWER: IT CAME AT THE SAILORS ON BOARD. TWO OF THE HEADS WERE WEEPING AND WAILING AND CALLING FOR HELP. ONE WAS CRYING OUT FOR HIS MOTHER. THE HEAD IN THE MIDDLE WAS RAVENOUS FOR HUMAN FLESH.

Question: What did it do? Attack sailors on the deck of one of the ships?

ANSWER: YES, WHILE TWO OF THE MELDED NAZI HEADS WAILED AND CALLED FOR MERCY, THE ABOMINATION BODY SET UPON SAILORS ON DECK SPREADING CHAOS AND PANIC. A SAILOR WAS PLUCKED FROM THE DECK BY TENTACLES. ONE OF THE HEADS BEGAN FEEDING ON THE SAILOR. THE OTHER TWO HEADS CRIED OUT, BEGGING THEIR HEAD MATE COMPANION TO STOP.

Question: Oh good lord! Well, what happened then.

ANSWER: THROUGH SOME EVIL DEVICE, THE MONSTER BEGAN EMITTING THE NAZI ANTHEM.

Question: ?????? What!!!!!!!!! ??????

ANSWER: THE MAN ABOMINATION HOVERED ABOVE A NAZI SHIP, FEASTING ON MAN FLESH. ACROSS ITS BELLY THERE APPEARED A SERIES OF SLITS, LIKE GILLS. FROM THESE GILL SLITS CAME LOUD MUSIC, THE NAZI ANTHEM.

Question: Egads, what a yarn! The thing added psychological fuel to its attack by mocking them with their national anthem? God, for bizarre! Well, then what happened?

ANSWER: THIS WAS THE FIRST OF MANY HORRORS. EVENTS ESCALATED AND DETERIORATED FROM THERE. THE SITUATION BECAME WORSE ON A MUCH GRANDER SCALE FOR THE NAZIS AFTER KRUPP WAS DEVASTATED BY ABOMINATIONS.

Question: Dr. 58, I would guess all of this information would be highly classified beyond being highly classified and so secret that almost no one should know about it. How is it that you know so many intimate details of what happened out there on Krupp Island?

ASNWER: OF COURSE, FROM THE DEFECTORS, THE MANY WHO FLED THE NAZI REGIME AND WENT SOCMAL IN THE UNITED STATES AND ELSEWHERE. THEIR STORY SPREAD LIFE FIRE AROUND THE WORLD.

(Note: I’m going to end it there. I’m not sure if the increasing horror of Dr. 58’s story is appropriate for this forum. If I put more here, I may edit out some of the really grotesque stuff, if this material isn’t bad enough already. Again, to the mods, I abide by your judgment).

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That's quite... a turn.

Magic, fusing of bodies, survival of the mayan empire and their god.

Crazy.

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Mayans eh? I guess small pox is lazy in their reality :P

As for those questioning this stuff I'm not sure if it's real or not but IronGhost has been more or less open and he hasn't flipped out when people don't believe he's special. That's enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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name='susieice' date='24 May 2010 - 09:38 PM' timestamp='1274758724' post='3426635']

You have got a good imagination there Davedini.That was a awsome game,eh! :lol:

[/quotet It's much deeper than that. Does IG REALLY believe he's getting this information is coming from a ouiji board. This is not a game. We understand so little.

AHEM sorry to burst your bubble but i made a comment towards hockey where the canadians played the penguins and halak is their goalie so in turn when she said that was an awesome game she was talking about game 7 they played where halak was a robot in front of that goal lol

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no no no tell us the good parts (cries silently) i wanna hear all the good parts IG you are breaking my heart

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Maybe I was going about it the wrong way. Maybe I should be attacking the awful, ridiculous story instead of the fact that Ouija boards are entirely fake.

I don't know if it's awful, but it's not like it being ridiculous is such a bad thing. I'm entertained by it, aren't you?

Plus, Ouija boards aren't fake, they're real. I saw one once. Totally exists.

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Personally I'm accustomed to horror, splatter and slasher movies so I think I have the stumoch for plenty gore lol. I have even seen real gore on the internet. But perhaps the forum is PG-13? :lol:

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I don't know if it's awful, but it's not like it being ridiculous is such a bad thing. I'm entertained by it, aren't you?

Plus, Ouija boards aren't fake, they're real. I saw one once. Totally exists.

Slightly off topic, but I absolutely hate it when people label something supopsedly paranormal as FAKE. That word really sh*ts me. Explain how or why something is fake. Does it exist or not exist? Human made?? Just labeling something as fake is lazy and annoying.

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Slightly off topic, but I absolutely hate it when people label something supopsedly paranormal as FAKE. That word really sh*ts me. Explain how or why something is fake. Does it exist or not exist? Human made?? Just labeling something as fake is lazy and annoying.

I agree, calling things like the piltdown man, the bigfoot video, the Alien Autopsy video and Noah's Ark's remains fake makes a mockery out of science. Why can't people just agree that things are differently real?

Why is there so much arguing in here? Less whining, more storytelling.

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Keep it up IG.

I can and want to say so much more, but what it all boils down to is keep it up.

-Jay

P.S: Please post more :P

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Slightly off topic, but I absolutely hate it when people label something supopsedly paranormal as FAKE. That word really sh*ts me. Explain how or why something is fake. Does it exist or not exist? Human made?? Just labeling something as fake is lazy and annoying.

Example of the paranormal faked: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=182466

The "ghost" in that photo did not exist. It was hoaxed.

I think this ouija board experience he tells of here is fake. I don't think it really happened. Any discussion? The OP isn't willing to entertain the possibility.

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Example of the paranormal faked: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=182466

The "ghost" in that photo did not exist. It was hoaxed.

I think this ouija board experience he tells of here is fake. I don't think it really happened. Any discussion? The OP isn't willing to entertain the possibility.

I'm willing to entertain absolutely any possibility, and I also entertain any and all discussion.

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Hey J4yD0r, welcome to UM!

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With that, here is a short bit from Mommy whom we contacted earlier today:

Opening Statement: Mommy? Mommy, are you in the Nothing Chamber?

ANSWER: MOMMY IS HERE FOR YOU, SWEETIE.

Question: Mommy, you are aware now of our dialogue with Dr. 58?

ANSWER: AS YOU ASKED FOR MY OPINION, AND SO I APPRAISED MYSELF.

Question: Thank you, Mommy. Mommy, I hope you are not offended, as we have been adopting a policy to limit your influence in the Dr. 58 discussions. We seek to keep the Dr. 58 sessions uncontaminated, so to speak. But, Mommy, we ask you at this time if you would offer any purely objective advice to us. Do you?

ANSWER: HONEY, BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT.

Question: What do you mean by that, Mommy?

ANSWER: MY DARLING, YOU PARTICIPATE AS ONE SITTING ON A TREE BRANCH WAVING IN A BREEZE. AND SO YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS CONFRONTS A WAVERING SPECTRUM OF DIMENSION.

Question: Now, purely for the sake of discussion -- so, just as there are many version of the United States across the spectrum of parallel universes, perhaps then there is a spectrum of Dr. 58s, and so we may be receiving information that perhaps, at times, is not as focused as it should be on a particular Dr. 58, but a spectrum of Dr. 58s?

ANSWER: YES, DEAR.

Question: Mommy, how should I correct for dimensional drift, if even I should?

ANSWER: BE AWARE OF YOUR INTENT. SECOND, BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT.

Question: Mommy, I have no intent, other than to receive information and to see that information.

ANSWER: THEN SEE IT, WHILE KNOWING.

Question: Tell me more, Mommy.

ANSWER: I TELL YOU TO BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT. I DONT ASK YOU TO JUDGE IT. I SAY BE AWARE OF DIMENSIONAL DRIFT.

Question: Why not judge it?

ANSWER: WHY INDEED?

Question: Ill think about this, Mommy. Thank you, Mommy.

ANSWER: YOU'RE WELCOME, PRECIOUS.

Question: Good-bye, Mommy.

GOOD-BYE.

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Dimensional Drift very interesting. The thought of not talking to just one Dr. 58 but multiple is actually very interesting. Focus and being aware of this should be easy for you IG now add some gore because i want to know more lol

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Slightly off topic, but I absolutely hate it when people label something supopsedly paranormal as FAKE. That word really sh*ts me. Explain how or why something is fake. Does it exist or not exist? Human made?? Just labeling something as fake is lazy and annoying.

This post has a great deal of discussion on why or how this could be fake. I even attempted to address it, and thought I did so fairly succinctly. So far I've heard no real argument from the detractors, but I notice I huge amount of emotional hostility.

Basically, they just go along the lines, "Oh this is BS, It's fake, he's making it up."

And clearly that argument shows not only have they drastically missed the point, but they haven't read this post properly nor have they followed any of the links offered by IG and others regarding IG's past posts and activity on this forum.

I just basically ignore them until they gather their thoughts long enough to either reflect on the real issue or come up with an argument that validates their response.

You're always going to get people that are destructive, rather than constructive. For a lot of people, it's the only way they know how to respond to anything. Luckily, there's enough switched-on people on this forum with good social skills and lateral thinking to be entertained and stimulated by posts like this. So just let them have their poo-flinging. They're welcome to post here, as is anyone. Even if sometimes it's better to keep one's mouth closed and let people think you're ignorant than open it and remove all doubt.

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Well, well, well. Isn't it nice to be so many people at the same time.

Makes for some interesting internal dialog.

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