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The Strange Tale of "Dr. 58"


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I don't get some people. Does it really matter whether it's fact or fiction? If IG made this whole story up, it's definitely great imagination and it's an entertaining read which leaves me wanting to know more.

In some respects it really does matter if hes making it up or not, because hes telling people its all true. If hes lying then its wrong, and it makes a mockery of the point of this board, which is to discuss manifestations of the paranormal and make up our minds. the idea is definitely not to actually make up your own and try and convince people theyre true. There are more appropriate places to post this story if it is infact fiction, but thats not what this part of the forum is for.

Also, I have a question...this is meant to be a parallel universe story? How does the energy pass between the realities and why can you pick up on him if hes using a different way to communicate with you? How does this oracle intercept a ouija board? It just seems to me like using your phone and the toaster ringing...ouija boards are ouija boards, they have their 'purpose' and i think if they could cross lines with these oracles in an apparant parallel developed society that they would have by now, but out of all the people who much about with ouija boards this is the only instance of it ever occuring?

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I'd recommend you look into Pearl Curran/Patience Worth, Seth and similar channels, they have written entire books.

I just started reading up on those....Pretty interesting , and the Ideomotor effect is what happened on both accounts , I would say.( will probably download some ebooks on those two , so Thank You )

Those are 2 accounts from very long ago.One of them was not educated , nor a writer.That makes me tend to believe ,yes she was using a Ouiji board , and her sub-conscious and Ideomotor effect were well in sync.

As for IG's , he has stated that " for sure , 100% not the Ideomotor effect or subconcious" ( not quite that quote , could not find that , quotes below , my apologies) , so he may as well say he knows 100% he is talking to another dimension.

Actually, I'm in the vast majority when I say the subconscious mind does not exist. Most psychologists don't accept it, even Freud did not accept the concept of the subconscious mind.

I would invite everyone to think of themselves as multidimensional beings who have far greater access to the universe than just "inside me" "outside me" and "conscious mind" and "subconscious mind." Those aren't the only options, and it's actually very easy to see this with a little practice.
Of course, many here would argue that it is my subconscious mind that is writing these stories and perhaps my "inner frustrated fiction writer" but I don't believe that to be the case, and in fact, I know that's not the case.

Paranormalcy , I am not usually so interested in a topic being false as this one ( strong gut feeling,and a lot of questions on the way it is written).I just feel it is written at a desk , on a laptop , and no Ouiji board involved at all.That is just how I feel about it.

I am sure no one will ever attempt to show anything to make me feel different , so it will probably just stay this way.

And out of all due respect to everyone here ,I am debating this fact , and expressing my opinions.

IG , I do hope it does not upset you some of us feel this way , I think you do respect our views on it.The story is great as I said , and I enjoy reading it.As I read it , each time in my head the " no way " gets louder and louder though , so it is hindering a good read.

Just one of my many questions , is one that has been pointed out...If I were in a different dimension , and started communicating with someone claiming to be from another , I would not be doing all of the talking , I would have a lot of questions myself.I would not be telling a story , I would be having a question answer session back and forth.

I can see where the story is going also , I think....Dr.58 is going to eventually go see Minnesota himself.( the suspense is killing fans).....This "session" is just to thought out.

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As for IG's , he has stated that " for sure , 100% not the Ideomotor effect or subconcious" , so he may as well say he knows 100% he is talking to another dimension.

Well, let's not put words in anyone's mouth, but even if this were the case, he can only state this insofar as he is able to from a personal standpoint - he can say 100% he "knows", to his satisfaction, he is talking to another dimension, yes. Just like the countless people that post on UM that say they get harassed by ghosts and shadow people, talk to spirits, are possessed, drain people's energy, move psi wheels, see Bigfoot or whatever else. I don't see any difference here.

Back to the channeling for a moment, not to hijack IG's thread, but I looked into channeling and automatic writing, and tried it a few times - it DID just "come into my head" and I wrote it out and you can find it posted here on the site as a too-long article. I've also seen people ask questions in their heads and get replies on the board. But I was "just sitting at a desk" more or less for my "automatic writing". But I didn't "make it up" - consciously at least. Now I personally don't have any doubt it was just me and my creativity, which I can't seem to normally harness, especially lately, but it was more like I was taking dictation; I wasn't deliberately writing. It doesn't mean I think it was paranormal, but that is simply my opinion, and it doesn't mean other people can't do the same thing and believe they are doing something paranormal.

But yes, when IG first started posting his stuff, I quizzed him on it and there was then, as now, a lot of assumption and asking if it was fiction, and he has never changed his claim that it is obtained via Ouija sessions. If he had, or it turns out it was, it would be suitable to be moved to the Writer's section of the site, because as noted, just because something is entertaining doesn't make it qualified to be in the main paranormal section of UM - it needs to have a valid paranormal connection.

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I genuinely suspended judgement on whether this was really being collected from a ouija boad or not but now I do think IG probably just sits down and makes it up as a creative writing exercise.

I also think that as there is evidence for his claims that he could easily supply, he should in fact have to supply it on order for his thread to remain in this section of this forum rather than the fictional writing section.

I still really, really want the next chapter though and I would continue to read it no matter what sub forum it was in.

Paranormalcy I think you are biased because you use ouija boards yourself.

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Wow. Okay.

So, a few hours ago, I started on the first page of this thread.

Half a pack of cheese popcorn, a can of regular Coke, a serving of pineapple dessert, two packs of chocolate cream cracker sandwiches, two glasses of water, a trip to the loo, and a few minutes of neck & shoulder muscle cramps later... I've arrived at the (as of the moment) last page!

(Note: When I was on the 23rd page, this thread went from 30 pages to 31, and I was like, @#$!@%. Heh.)

Sorry I'm kinda feeling proud I read this whole topic almost continuously. ^^;

Before I say anything else, I would like to state that at the moment, I'm neither a believer or a non-believer in ouija boards. I don't know much about them so I find it hard to say that I believe or do not believe in their power. I can't recall if I have even seen one in real life.

Anyway, I have five main stuff to say:

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1. Ouija / Ouiji

People throughout this thread keep saying ouija and/or ouiji. How is it spelled really? I have always thought it was spelled as ouija.

I thought ouiji might be a typo at first, but a and i are just too far apart. Is ouiji and ouija the same or different? If they are different, how so?

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2. Regarding Sigmund Freud and the Subconscious / Unconscious

To IronGhost, you said:

Most psychologists don't accept it, even Freud did not accept the concept of the subconscious mind.

Well, Freud condemned the term "subconscious" not because he disagrees with the idea it points to, but because of the ambiguity behind the term.

I found a quotation that will explain it better. I'll copy paste.

"If someone talks of subconsciousness, I cannot tell whether he means the term topographically -- to indicate something lying in the mind beneath consciousness -- or qualitatively -- to indicate another consciousness, a subterranean one, as it were. He is probably not clear about any of it. The only trustworthy antithesis is between conscious and unconscious."

- Sigmund Freud, The Question of Lay Analysis (Vienna 1926; English translation 1927)

I'm sorry, I only got that quotation from Wikipedia. They did however, cite a source. I'm not entirely sure whether that certain quotation truly exists in the book or not, as I haven't read it yet.

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3. The Strange Thread of Drama

I know I wasn't obligated to read through this entire thread but speaking from the perspective of someone who just did, wow, drama.

There have been times when I would see certain people post, and I would be like, "Oh no..." *scrolls down*

Lol, no offense to those people. It's just that you guys presenting your cases about how this is real or this is not real, they were all starting to sound the same to me after reading this topic almost continuously.

But then I would scroll back up, because you guys do present valid points. (Despite, sometimes, resorting to ad hominem attacks.)

In the end, I can honestly say I've thoroughly read every single post here.

Well maybe some less thoroughly than others, because to be honest, after a while, these kinds of posts get repetitive and tiring.

I believe I even encountered a page where every single post there was just about these topics: (a.) the validity of the ouija board, (b.) the claim of IronGhost that these transcripts were obtained from actual ouija sessions, (c.) attacks between people involved.

I'm starting to think that if all these exchanges were cut off and pasted to a separate topic, it would make up at least 10 pages.

However, I do understand that there is the need to defend and also to play devil's advocate. I do respect both. I'm just hoping for more healthy arguments. :)

I know I've gone off-topic here. Several pages ago, I read a post by a super mod, I believe it was Paranormalcy saying we should address the topic itself and not other posters etc. I'm just saying this out of concern for this thread.

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4. Pepper Ball

On topic! To start with, I quote:

Is nobody else weirded out by the naked fat guy getting a rub down? Or am I the only one?

Murrangurk, I feel you.

Coming from this world, I do not think I will ever attend a match of this game. Call me superficial but there are naked fat men running around, jumping up and down.

And... the best goal is a hit to the genitals with the pepper ball? Ouch... and ouch to my eyes.

I would also not want to play this game... to avoid... uhh, lathering the Trac Man with emollient afterwards. And to not throw balls containing stinging fluid at naked fat men in the first place. :(

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5. The Trac Man's skin

The Trac Man sands his skin daily? It sounds like exfoliation to me. To be honest it slightly disturbs me.

I'm assuming at the moment that it is like exfoliation. If so, doesn't that make the skin softer, smoother, and more sensitive since dead skin cells are removed?

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In the end, I'm not sure if I've gained more ouija board knowledge from this topic, or if it was such a good idea to have gone here at all, lol.

However, I have to thank ALL of you. Yes, everyone. Even the lurkers and guests who were/are reading this topic. Seeing other people also reading made me feel less crazy for reading all the way.

The posts here, although they did not really enlighten me about the ouija board, taught me other things. I did not expect in depth psychological and philosophical discussions.

I'm pleasantly surprised. :) This topic was like a really long run on the treadmill for my brain. ^^

Again, thank you!

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Keep it coming IG

Cough this is better than reading Harry Potter lol

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i really like this story....but im am way over the pepper ball....lets get back to the good stuff

I agree lets hear about the crazy good stuff again lol

And welcome to the UM Miah :tu:

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This stuff is too out there to be fake :D

Never read anything by David Icke, for your own good.

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I also think that as there is evidence for his claims that he could easily supply, he should in fact have to supply it on order for his thread to remain in this section of this forum rather than the fictional writing section.

Paranormalcy I think you are biased because you use ouija boards yourself.

Paranormalcy is not biased, incase you hadn't noticed or read through this thread, there has been 3 mods including the admin of this site over looking this thread. And it has been said by us already that this thread is in the right section of the site. Leave these descions to the Mod team and listen to what we say.

And no he should not have to supply evidence, he is not obliged to do so nor is anyone on this site. I suggest you actually read what has gone before, check my last post out which requests people to drop the 'show us and proof' routine. It's disrupting this thread now.

If these kind of posts continue to surface, they will be removed without warning.

Now back to the topic.

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my last post got removed, this one probably will as well but exactly what aspects of this story ARE we allowed to 'discuss'?

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Your post was removed because you chose to argue with a moderator instead of getting back to the topic as requested. There are 32 pages worth of members discussing this without arguing that it should be moved to the creative writing section, if it were an established policy to demand evidence of something before it could be included in a topical section then the forum wouldn't work at all, you simply can't provide or expect that level of verifiable proof in an on-line discussion environment.

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(And so, the Ouija sessions continue.....here we finally get back to what happened in the case of the Nazi satellite disasters ... some may want to review where this previous information left off ....)

Question: Dr. 58, what was the Nazi strategy to secure Krupp Island and contain whatever menace that resulted from the attempt to remote view Minnesota from space?

ANSWER: THE NAZIS WAITED AND OBSERVED KRUPP. NO COMMUNICATION CAME. ALL WERE PRESUMED DEAD OR ABOMMINATED. BUT THEN THE STARS WERE ASSUALTED.

Question: What do you mean by that?

ANSWER: NAZI SATELLITES EXPLODED IN SPACE CREATING A CIRCLE OF SPACE DEBRISE WHICH DEFILED THE STARLIGHT -- A BLOW TO AMERICAN SOCIETY.

Question: Wow. So while the Nazi’s were contemplating what to do with Krupp, a bunch of their satellites started blowing up in space? Yikes! Somebody -- or something -- in Minnesota must have been supremely p***ed off that the Nazi’s tried to snoop on them from space!! Um, well, could this destruction in space be seen from the earth?

ANSWER: IN THE NIGHT SKY, THERE WAS A SPECTRAL BAND OF DIRTY LIGHT LITTERED WITH FALSE STARS.

Question: So this ring of space debris, it must have been rather massive if it appeared as a ghostly cloud. I assume when you say this was littered with false stars, these were chunks of exploded satellite refuse or space hardware debris?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: How wide was this band, would you say? How many degrees of width?

ANSWER: THE WIDTH OF A HAND EXTENDED AT ARM’S LENGTH TO THE SKY.

Question: That would be about 5 or 6 degrees. (Note: I did not have to pause the session to look this up, in case anyone is wondering. I did my graduate work in space studies, and have done a lot of writing work for an aerospace firm).

To continue the question: I wonder what the would have made a cloud out there is space? It might have been tiny particles of satellite dust, but I doubt it. Perhaps the fuel source of the satellites contributed? Do you know?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Do you know anything about what powered the Nazi satellites? Do you have nuclear power in your world?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW NUCLEAR. I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT POWERS NAZI SATELLITES. THEY USE TECHNOLOGY, UNLIKE THE MAYANS.

Question: What do you mean? Do the Mayans also have satellites or other forms of space travel?

ANSWER: YES, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THEY ONCE DID.

Question: If they don’t use technology to build and put satellites in space, what do they use?

ANSWER: MAGIC, OF COURSE.

Question: Well of course! What else? What were we thinking! But, anyway, why did the Mayans cut back on their space exploration efforts, if that’s what you’re saying?

ANSWER: THEIR MAGIC WENT FROM STRONG TO WEAK.

(Note: There he goes again with the Mayan strong and weak magic issue. We simply have to put off learning about this obviously complex issue later, so we steered back to the issue at hand, the Nazi satellite disaster).

Question: Dr. 58, let’s get back to the Nazis. So they have Krupp Island surrounded and quarantined. They are deciding their next move. In the meantime, an array of satellites explode in space, staining the night sky with an ugly unnatural light as seen from earth. I bet I can guess why this was a blow to American society -- it must have really interfered with the all-important art of gathering light for your celestial aquifying efforts, am I right?

ANSWER: YES, EXACTLY. THE SPECTRAL SWATH IN THE NIGHT SKY WAS MIRRORED AS A BAND OF DISTRESS ACROSS AMERICAN SOCIETY.

Question: I can see what you mean there. There must have been a number of stars and other astronomical objects interfered with by the space junk -- and those in your culture who are attuned to the stars afflicted by they distortion in light must have been greatly effected, yes?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Still, even with a distortion band of about 5 degrees, the other 95% of American society must have been unaffected, correct?

ANSWER: ALL FELT THE DISTRESS OF THE OTHERS. EVEN A NARROW BAND OF DISRUPTION WORKED AS A WAVE THAT WAS FELT THROUGOUT THE SPECTRUM OF SOCIETY.

Question: Yes, thank you, Dr. 58, that is a very lucid way of describing this situation. I can see what you mean. A wave of disruption within society would probably ripple out to the rest of society, even if individual star-power, or whatever, was not directly impinged upon. But, in practical terms, what did this mean for people? How did it directly affect American society?

ANSWER: IT DISRUPTED SOCIETY, OF COURSE. THE INABILITY TO PROJECT ONE’S MANH MAKES NORMAL LIFE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR MOST.

Question: What is Manh?

ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE HOW TO DESCRIBE SOMETHING SO FUNDAMENTAL.

Question: Well, let’s not worry too much about it. I think I might know what you’re talking about there -- perhaps a person’s Manh is his integral central soul identity, or something like that, as they project it to the rest of society. Do you think I am describing this accurately?

ANSWER: PERHAPS.

Question: Well, were there riots, or deaths, of fights, or some kind of violent social disruptions?

ANSWER: THAT WOULD NOT BE AMERICAN. IT WAS WORSE THAN THAT… SUBTLE … (A PAUSE) … THERE WAS SOCIETAL FEAR AND MAILAISE. A DEEP SUFFERING OF MANH. AMERICAN OUTRAGE WAS DIRECTED AT THE NAZI REGIME.

Question: By the way, who is the Nazi leader?

ANSWER: THE NAZI RULERS ARE A TECHNOCRATIC OLIGARCHY. THOSE WHO HOLD POWER GUARD THEIR IDENTITY.

Question: Okay, well how was this American outrage manifested ? Did people at least demonstrate in the streets, and start beating the drums of war, if you know what I mean?

ANSWER: AMERICA COULD NOT WAGE A WAR UPON THE NAZIS. HOWEVER, RIGGOLD BANNAN APPEALED TO THE WORLD OF NATIONS TO SANCTION THE NAZIS.

Question: Yes, Riggold Bannon, your Imperator! What did he do, convene a council of world leaders so that everyone could get together to find some way to punish or sanction or curb the Nazi meddling in space and with Minnesota.

ANSWER: AN APPEAL WAS MADE TO THE MAYANS TO DIRECT THEIR SUN BEAM AT THE NAZI SPACE COLONY.

Question: Yowzz!!! The Nazi’s even had a colony in space!! Do you mean an orbiting space colony, or a colony on the moon, or what?

ANSWER: AN ORBITING COLONY.

Question: Boy, they seem to have come a long way in just a few years! I mean, you are in 1951 and you said the Nazis started launching satellites in the 1930s -- and since then they have even developed a space colony?

ANSWER: YES.

(Note: Once again, we put this a thorny issue aside, simply to move along and not get bogged down. However, as I have said earlier, they have three different calendar systems in Dr. 58’s world, and they are certainly dealing with time differently than we are, so, that’s possibly an explanation … I’ll leave it at that for now … I‘ll try getting to the bottom of it later).

Question: What is the Mayan Sun Beam?

ANSWER: AN ENERGY BEAM OF SUNLIGHT. MUCH OF MAYAN MAGIC COMES FROM THE SUN.

Question: So they have some kind of powerful laser beam?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW LASER.

Question: Don’t worry about it. Did the Mayans comply? Did they direct their sun energy beam at the Nazi space station?

ANSWER: NO, THEY REFUSED.

Question: Why not? Are they allied with the Nazis? Are they friendly with the Nazis?

ANSWER: NO. MAYAN’S MOTIVATIONS ARE THEIR OWN.

Question: Hmmm. Are the Mayans friendly with America?

ANSWER: THAT IS DIFFICULT TO KNOW.

Question: Why? There must be some relations between your countries. After all, you are neighbors, right?

ANSWER: THERE IS A SAYING: THE MAYANS REVEAL MUCH BUT HIDE EVERYTHING.

Question: Cool, that is so cool, I like that. But, anyway … wait a minute. Something doesn’t make sense here. I can understand the Americans wanting to get revenge on the Nazi’s for meddling in Minnesota from space, but would not blowing up a Nazi space colony create even more space debris to pollute the night sky?

ANSWER: THE NAZI SPACE COLONY IS CLOSER TO THE MOON.

Question: Yes, that makes perfect sense! There is a point, I think it’s called the L-Point where the earth and moon’s gravity sort of cancel each other out, making it a perfect place to park a space colony where is can get a gravity free ride, so to speak. Wow. Do you know how many people inhabited the space colony?

ANSWER: ONLY THE NAZIS KNEW. BUT THERE WERE HUNDREDS OR MORE.

Question: How would you know even that?

ANSWER: WHEN THE SPACE COLONY WAS DESTROYED AMERICAN OPTICS IDENTIFIED MANY CORPSES IN SPACE.

Question: Whoa! Wait a minute! So the Mayans refused to take out the space colony, so who did?

ANSWER: THE THRALLDOM.

Question: (Holds head and groans. Then holds head and groans again. Takes a deep sigh). Okay, okay, what is the Thralldom?

ANSWER: YOUR IGNORANCE IS SPECTACULAR. THE THOR THRALLDOM, OF COURSE.

Question: Uhhhhhhhh … This must be some Scandinavian nation then? Do you know the nations Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland … Any of those ring a bell?

ANSWER: THERE IS A REGION, SWEDIA.

Question: And is this Swedia region a part of the Thor Thralldom?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well, off the coast of New York -- is that the Atlantic ocean?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: And the continent that across the Atlantic, say the northern part of the Atlantic, what is that?

ANSWER: YOU MUST MEAN OLGIAE.

(Note: Olgiae --- Old Gaia?????).

Question: And is there an island nation above the western part of Olgiae separated by a narrow channel of water?

ANSWER: YOU MUST MEAN ENGLAND.

Question: Whoooo-hoooooo! Yes! So you have and England in your world! Do you have an Ireland?

ANSWER: I’M NOT AN EXPERT ON ALL NATIONS, BUT I DON’T THINK I KNOW IRELAND.

Question: Didn’t you study geography in school?

ANSWER: I DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU.

Question: School! Do you know what a school is? Where do you go to learn about everything, you know, how to read and write, and that kind of thing?

ANSWER: YES, I AM SCHOOLED.

Question: And the location where this schooling takes place. What do you call that?

ANSWER: I CAN’T UNDERSTAND YOU. I AM SCHOOLED … ANYWHERE…I AM SCHOOLED BY SOCIETY.

(Note: Sigh. Don’t want to go there right now).

Question: Forget about the school thing. In our world the land we have a nation called the United Kingdom. It actually consists of four nations, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. What do you say?

ANSWER: I THINK YOU TALK ABOUT THE LAND OF ENGLAND.

Question: What can you tell us about England?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOU. ENGLAND IS UNDER THE THRALLDOM.

Question: Now this Thralldom -- the Thor Thralldom -- where is this land?

ANSWER: THE REGION OF OLGIAE EAST OF THE NAZI REICH. A VAST NORTHERN REGION.

Question: What is the land south of England across the narrow channel of water?

ANSWER: THAT IS THE RIECH.

(Ahhhhhhh!!! I wonder if this means ‘See ya later France‘!!!! For now, I am going to assume that the Thor Thralldom is that which we call the Scandinavian regions in our world.)

Question: Let’s forget about our geography lesson for now. How did the Thralldom destroy the Nazi space colony?

ANSWER; IN THE WAY OF THE THRALLDOM. WITH BRUTE STRENGTH. THE RAGNAROKR HAMMER.

Question: But with what? Did they send a missile into space, you know, some kind of rocket or missile? Do you know what we mean?

ANSWER: I’M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. THE THRALLDOM HAS MANY IMPLEMENTS. I’M NOT AN EXPERT. THEY COMMAND SOMETHING CALLED SINGLE STONE.

Question: Maybe a solid fuel rocket. A single-stage-to-orbit solid fuel rocket? Certainly this is what you must be talking about? Do you know what a rocket is?

ANSWER: YES, BUT I DON’T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND ME. THE THRALLDOM IS CRUDE IN POWER. THEY ARE NOT SUBTLE LIKE THE MAYANS OR TECHNOLOGICAL LIKE THE NAZIS. THEY FAVOR BRUTE FORCE. THEY COUNTER GRAVITY WITH FORCE. THEY EXPLODE THE RAGNAROKR HAMMER -- THEY FLING IT FROM THE EARTH.

Question: Well, what does this Ragnarokr Hammer look like? What is it? Is it a rocket?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.

(Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! So damned frustrating!!!!!!!!!)

Question: So England is under the Thralldom, you say? As its name would suggest, the Thor Thralldom is an oppressive power, I mean, oppressive of people?

ANSWER: NO. THE THRALLDOM IS NOT OPPRESSIVE. THEY MASTER SOCIETAL ASSIMILATION. BUT THEY HAVE POWER. THEY BALANCE THE RIECH.

Question: Is the power of the Thralldom more technological, like the Nazis, or magical like the Mayans?

ANSWER: YOU MAKE ME LOOK AT THINGS IN A NEW WAY. I HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.

Question: Forget that for now. Maybe we should get back to Krupp. So Krupp is surrounded, the Nazis are suffering major blows to their space-based infrastructure, and probably dealing with widespread geopolitical condemnation. What happens next on Krupp?

ANSWER: SOMETHING VERY HORRIBLE. BUT THE NAZIS ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH THE PREGNANT DEMON MOON.

Question: Oh no. (Super heavy sigh). Okay, okay, what is the Pregnant Demon Moon? Jeepers, it sound like something terrible.

ANSWER: THE ORIGINAL SATELLITE THAT PEERED DOWN ON MINNESOTA WAS TRANSFORMED BY SOME VERY GREAT MINNESOTA MAGIC. IT BECAME THE PREGNANT DEMON MOON. IT TERRORIZED THE RIECH AND THE WORLD.

(This is getting long for a single post, so I'll end it there for now).

Wishing everyone here well, and a happy day -- Iron

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I almost wish you'd never startd posting this until you had the time to just get it out there as one long book or something iron ghost. These cliff hangers are killing me.

In spite of all the arguing and 'controversy' I'm still very much enjoying your posts though, I appreciate that you are busy but please keep it up.

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I almost wish you'd never startd posting this until you had the time to just get it out there as one long book or something iron ghost. These cliff hangers are killing me.

In spite of all the arguing and 'controversy' I'm still very much enjoying your posts though, I appreciate that you are busy but please keep it up.

Why do you think they're called cliffhangers & are used by writers?

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... and my Ouija partner does not read or write because of a mental handicapp...

Perhaps he can not speak properly or write. Doesn't mean he cant point out letters to spell a world! You'd be surprised what some of these "handicapped" people can do :rofl:

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Sooo exciting! I live in the Thralldom of Thor...

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Calm down people,calm down! The transcripts sure are a fun read, but it's hardly high literature now is it?

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh RAGE

Why would you just end it there like that :cry:

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I really loved the turn the story took this time. Seems like my country on Doc's side still wield the viking power and are not sissies as here on this side. I want the wleld the power of the Ragnarok Hammer too, whatever it is! :P:w00t::devil:

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Not too sure what to think about all this but it is an interesting read for sure. This whole story kind of reminds me of the old pen/paper RPG called Shadowrun. Its not an exact match but there some similarities between the world of Shadowrun and Dr. 58's world.

I must admit though that this story would make a great foundation for a new RPG! :)

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If you want to discuss or debate the information presented from the session content, please do so.

Complaining about the thread being in the wrong section or continued insistence on it being fiction and/or demanding proof is harassment - those posts will be removed with no notice, and formal warnings given, if necessary. Please cease the cross-chatter also, this is not a chatroom. Thank you.

I trust that clarifies things for everyone.

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For what it's worth, the Krupp family was a major German arms manufacturer for over a century, supplying arms to the German military during both World Wars. They were probably also involved in the Nazi V1 and V2 rocket programs, as was Dr. Werner von Braun, who after WWII worked in the American space program. It seems that in Dr. 58's universe, the Nazis not only pioneered "rocket science," they pioneered space exploration and colonization.

But that speculation is insignificant beside Dr. 58's claim that the Mayans achieved space travel with magic! I'd like to hear more about how they managed that!

Finally, as an aside, I'm still puzzled by Dr. 58's attitude toward this bizarre communication. He seems singularly lacking in curiosity about our universe. Has he asked even one question about our world, or about his interlocator? Since Dr.58 has only been "schooled by his society" (a vaguely ominous thought, that), and given the tantalizing but generally unsatisfactory nature of his "answers," I can't help but wonder just what the heck the kid is a "doctor" of? Maybe he's just a "Dr. Pepper(ball)."

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