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The Strange Tale of "Dr. 58"


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High tech Nazi Germany with no Hitler? That's out there even for alternative history standards. But good to see they got rid of north-south divide with some states. :P

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This is a strange tale your weaving IronGhost. I don't know what to make of it. How many people are participating in these Ouiji Board sessions?

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I don't know what to think either but I enjoy reading it. It always ends with a cliff hanger it seems. Not knowing if this is real or not I early on thought that this Dr 58 must live in a parallell universe to ours. Just for the fun of it, can't you ask him if there exists a Sweden in his world? Since Minnesota and Germany exists in his world I guess it is possible there exists a parallell country to mine. Btw Hitler was austrian and not german. Bring on some more since it is fun and interesting to read.

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I can't wait to hear what Mommy has to say about this. Sounds like you've tapped into an alternate dimension/timeline. :]

PS. How can the Nazi's not know of Hitler. Even in an alternate timeline.....bizarre.

The National Socialist party existed (albeit with a different name IIRC) before Hitler joined it. It's possible someone with equal oratory skills but less batsith crazy lead them to power.

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Hmmm. Quite an interesting story. I enjoy it. That "world" sounds a lot more funner then ours, though. With all the recurring elements I believe that it is indeed your subconscious, but I am not saying it is not real. Either way it is fun.

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Hmmm. Quite an interesting story. I enjoy it. That "world" sounds a lot more funner then ours, though. With all the recurring elements I believe that it is indeed your subconscious, but I am not saying it is not real. Either way it is fun.

Running with that theory - what could have spawned the ideas presented?

Obviously "Nazis without Hitler" are a common enough staple of speculative fiction. As are dopplegangers.

But Minnesota as a "forbidden zone"? Anyone got any idea of what stories that's from?

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Running with that theory - what could have spawned the ideas presented?

Obviously "Nazis without Hitler" are a common enough staple of speculative fiction. As are dopplegangers.

But Minnesota as a "forbidden zone"? Anyone got any idea of what stories that's from?

If he lives in Minnesota that explains the first part. Im not sure about the whole "forbidden zone" concept. In fact it reminds me of Mordor from Lord of the Rings. And the trolls as the orcs. Who knows what his subconscious mind has cooked up over the years. It's not unlikely either that he has tapped through to another world. It could even be some entity messing with him. Most likely no one is ever gonna explain the concept fully, because no one has knowledge of every single occurrence in his life that could lead him to subconsciously create this world, assuming he did.

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Okay, here is part three (again, not sure how much of this stuff I should be posting here. Mods, if you're irrtated with me, let me know)

Opening Statement: Mommy? Mommy, are you in the Nothing Chamber?

ANSWER: HELLO, SWEETHEART.

Question: Hi, Mommy! How is the form of nothingness today?

ANSWER: NOTHING IS FORM, DARLING.

Question: Yes, so you have said. Listen, Mommy, we have an interesting problem we hope you can help us with. We have been communicating with a certain person who goes by the name of Dr. 58. He claims to live in a New York City that seems to be in some kind of universe that is alternate to ours. What do you think of that?

ANSWER: I DON‘T THINK ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HON.

Question: That’s understandable. I mean, why would you? Mommy, Dr. 58 claims to be using something called the Hassas Grid as a means of communication, and that he obtained knowledge of the use of this oracle by way of something called the Verdantic Mysteries. Do you have knowledge of either of these?

ANSWER:

PILGIMS BEND YOUR EARS NEAR

HERE YOU WILL HEAR

THE ANCIENT WORD OF SEER OF SEERS

VERDANTIC MYSTERY ONE

KNOW IS THIS

COMES YOUR MIND FROM ETERNAL BLISS

IN YOUR MIND IS TRULY WITHOUT

SPPEECH COMES FROM ELSEWHERE

NOT YOUR MOUTH

PILRGRIM UPON THE PIER

PEER INTO THE SEA

SEE THE SEA, TASTE YOUR TEARS

SALTY TEARS, SALTY SEAS.

Question: Wow! What is that, Mommy!

ANSWER: AN OPENING CANTICLE FROM THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES.

Question: What exactly are the Verdantic Mysteries, Mommy?

ANSWER: A CERTAIN BODY OF KNOWLEDGE.

Question: Where do they come from, or who exactly wrote them or developed them?

ANSWER: A POWERFUL BEING IN TIMES ANCIENT TO YOURS.

Question: Well, are they like all written down in some huge book, or something like that?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY, THAT WOULD ONLY BE A PARTIAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE NATURE OF THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES.

Question: But some of the Verdantic Mysteries must be written down since you just dictated to us the opening canticle, right?

ANSWER: YOU WROTE THEM DOWN, BUT THEY ARE NOT WRITTEN DOWN.

Question: This is just so darned cool, Mommy! Can you dictate the Verdantic Mysteries to me then so I can write them down and make a text out of them?

ANSWER: NO, HONEY.

Question: Why not!

ANSWER: THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES ARE NOT FOR YOUR WORLD.

Question: Why not? Admittedly, the opening canticle is questionable poetry, yet has a certain charm, and dare I say, sense of mystery about it. It made a basic kind of sense. Why can’t we get more of this material?

ANSWER: IT IS NOT FOR YOU.

Question: Well, why did you tease us with this juicy tidbit?

ANSWER: TO AROUSE YOUR CURIOSITY AND DELIGHT.

Question: But certainly you understand that it’s not nice to ratchet up our curiosity and then pull the chain on us, to spark our curiosity and then douse it right away.

ANSWER: BUT YOU ARE DELIGHTED AND CURIOUS?

Question: I guess so.

(A pause)

Question: Mommy?

(No response. We got the feeling that Mommy wanted us to move on).

Question: Well then, Mommy, can you tell us about the Hassas Grid and how to make one, the kind that Dr. 58 is using? He says he somehow got his instructions from the Verdantic Mysteries.

ANSWER: THE HASSAS GRID WOULD NOT BE FOR YOU.

Question: Why not!

ANSWER: PRINICPLES OF PHYSICS.

Question: You mean there are certain fundamental physical characteristics of Dr. 58’s world that are different from my world?

ANSWER: YES, HONEY.

Question: Well, at the very least can you help us out with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid? This is a rather boorish character that demanded we fork over something called C-Chits if we are to continue our conversation with Dr. 58. Can you advise us?

(A long pause)

Question: Mommy?

ANSWER: YES, CONSCIOUSNESS CHITS. YOU CAN GENERATE THEM. DO YOU KNOW HOW, DARLING?

Question: I have no idea how to do that. Can you explain?

ANSWER: YOU USE THE ENERGY BAR TOOL.

Question: Ah, yes, I do indeed, as you know.

(Note: The Energy Bar Tool (EBT) is something I learned about from my experimentation with consciousness tools developed by the Monroe Institute. If anyone here does not know about the Monroe Institute in Faber, Virginia, you can do a search on it and learn more. {That’s not a plug, btw; I don’t do any work for them}.

Anyway, the EBT is a kind of consciousness device that I have found extremely useful in lucid dream and OBE practice. To make a long story short: One of the Monroe tapes provides instructions to “build” an EBT by first getting into a highly focused state of mind called “Focus 10” and then you visualize a tiny dot of light, then visualize it growing into a small ball, and then you stretch it out into a bar of light.

Next, you “charge” this Energy Bar Tool by visualizing it to grow fatter and thinner, fatter and thinner, and then start making it do so very rapidly until you can’t see the motion anymore, but rather “sense” the motion as a vibrating kind of energy.

Then, to further charge the EBT, you visualize its light switching on, then off, on, off, on, off until it starts doing it so rapidly, all you see is the light, but you sense the intense pulsation as energy.

Its really terrific. Once you have your EBT, you can take it with you into the dream world or the OBE state, and it comes in handy for a variety of purposes, which I won’t go into here. )

Question: So, Mommy, are you telling me that I can use the Energy Bar Tool as a C-Chit?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: But Mommy, the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid asked for 100 C-Chits. I think it would be prohibitively difficult and time consuming to make 100 of them. Even though this device works in the realm of mental construct, I am still bound by time, to some degree, in this process-- and at any rate, how would I pay them over to him?

ANSWER: HONEY, CREATE A SINGLE ENERGY BAR TOOL AND SHATTER IT INTO AS MANY PIECES AS YOU NEED.

Question: That’s a great idea. I wonder if I can visualize 100 pieces? Well, never mind, Mommy, I’ll work on that. But how, then, do I pass them on to the Arbiter?

ANSWER: HOLD THEM IN YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS AND CONTACT THE ARBITER. THE TRANSACTION WILL BE COMPLETE.

Question: Wow, okay, Mommy. I mean, like, double wow! I think I can do that! This is going to be so fun! I can’t wait to see if it works! Thank you, Mommy. Thank you! We love you, Mommy!

ANSWER: YOURS IS GENTLE ENERGY, HONEY-BUNNY, GOOD-BYE.

Good-bye, Mommy!

(And that’s where I will end it for now -- next I will be getting back to Dr. 58. There is some information about a bit of haggling I did with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid, but I may skip that, and just get onto the Dr. 58 material).

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I have found this post by accident.Still getting to know this site.I cannot wait to read more of this! I know you must be busy,but please continue soon.I have been interested in parallel univeses for some time.Thank you so much for a awesome read ! :tu:

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I have never seen a Ouija board actual work.People always pull it subconsciousness.To test if you are doing this lousily tie two disk of some sort to the top of the glass.If its not you moving it the glass will move first and then the disk will gently lag behind.If the disk move first then pull the glass its a spirit /alt demmesnion.Not saying you are pulling it, just a way to test.

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As usual, your stories are intriguing and captivating Iron Ghost. I don't see the need to apologize as you have twice now. The mods probably enjoy these stories as much as the rest of us. I'll be waiting to hear the rest, your reconnection with Dr. 58, and the interaction with the Arbiter. Well woven and well told. Rock on IronGhost.

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This is pulled directly from his wizard story in my link,

The same oddity mentioned in this very same story.

Thanks for clearing that up. I must have missed it. Interesting the the term "Verdantic" has as a root, word meaning "green" or "truth." One could also interpret it vibrant or alive.

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Thanks for clearing that up. I must have missed it. Interesting the the term "Verdantic" has as a root, word meaning "green" or "truth." One could also interpret it vibrant or alive.

Verdant Viridian etc.

Yeah, all of this is showing heavy signs of story telling.

As interesting as it is, there are too many patterns and alike writing formats. The biggest flag I noticed was how all of the entities answer or at least give some snide reply around 95% of the time and never ask their own questions. It seems to be all at the behest of IronGhost. If I was on the other end of some trans dimensional discussion I would be asking my own questions fervently too. While this is understandable with all knowing entities, lesser entities like this Dr. 58... well you get the point.

Giving IG the benefit of the doubt and saying IF this is fake and he does not know it, his subconscious is a damn good writer.

His political answers to skepticism and his skilled evasion causes me to wonder.

As I said before, real or fake, it's fairly interesting and reminds me of all black and white B movies or the Twilight Zone.

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Verdant Viridian etc.

Yeah, all of this is showing heavy signs of story telling.

As interesting as it is, there are too many patterns and alike writing formats. The biggest flag I noticed was how all of the entities answer or at least give some snide reply around 95% of the time and never ask their own questions. It seems to be all at the behest of IronGhost. If I was on the other end of some trans dimensional discussion I would be asking my own questions fervently too. While this is understandable with all knowing entities, lesser entities like this Dr. 58... well you get the point.

Giving IG the benefit of the doubt and saying IF this is fake and he does not know it, his subconscious is a damn good writer.

His political answers to skepticism and his skilled evasion causes me to wonder.

As I said before, real or fake, it's fairly interesting and reminds me of all black and white B movies or the Twilight Zone.

I'll address the one-sided Q & A phenomenon because it is a very good question. The fact is, I have spent seemingly endless, agonzing hours answering questions about our world as posed to me by Ouija entities.

In fact, if you look at some transcripts posted here at UM, such as the session with Kentu, I answer a lot of his mundane questions, such as "What is an automobile?"

As I have said, I have 43 years of transcripts -- boxes and boxes of them with perhaps millions of words. Many, many of them involve my answering the questions of the entities -- why don't you see more of it here? -- the very obvious answer is that these are boring beyond belief. So many of the transcripts are absolute drivel, and if I posted them, many here would start decrying the fact at how pointless and boring they seem.

Think about it. Do you want to read about me describing to Ouija entities what a television is, what our system of government is like, what my cats are doing -- in fact, MOMMY has asked me perhaps 1,000 questions about my cats -- questions about the orbital period of our planet, questions like, "What is money?"

I wish I had a dime for every time I described the internal combustion engine to an entity.

I generally edit this stuff out or don't post it at all. Many hear, a number of times, have complained that I am "long winded" in my posts -- well, I do what I can. I try not to subject you all to my descriptions of our ecosystem to some being in an alternate dimension.

TO GUYVER: Wow, I honestly a never in a million years would have made that connection between "Verdantic" and that root definition you pointed out. It gives me that "Wow, that is cool" feeling. I really didn't make that connection at all. Now I am beginning to think that the Verdantic Mysteries are even more real than before! :)

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Interesting tale. I have long been a fan of Lovecraft's works and you seemed to have captured the essence wonderfully!

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Verdant Viridian etc.

Yeah, all of this is showing heavy signs of story telling.

As interesting as it is, there are too many patterns and alike writing formats. The biggest flag I noticed was how all of the entities answer or at least give some snide reply around 95% of the time and never ask their own questions. It seems to be all at the behest of IronGhost. If I was on the other end of some trans dimensional discussion I would be asking my own questions fervently too. While this is understandable with all knowing entities, lesser entities like this Dr. 58... well you get the point.

Giving IG the benefit of the doubt and saying IF this is fake and he does not know it, his subconscious is a damn good writer.

His political answers to skepticism and his skilled evasion causes me to wonder.

As I said before, real or fake, it's fairly interesting and reminds me of all black and white B movies or the Twilight Zone.

I hear what you're saying. IG is telling stories. And...they're good ones. Check the archives for his first really lengthy thread, you won't be dissapointed. That they are stories is established. The question is....are they real? Well, that brings up an interesting point. Reality is as we perceive it. I personally wouldn't mess around with a Ouija board, I have before as a teen - and I certainly experienced the power of the thing.

I think IG is unique in that he had the forsight to begin documenting these experiences with an outside "observer" or data recorder. And, he's not afraid. Since he's not afraid, he can explore things that many others cannot. Fear has got to be a huge inhibitor and even presents a danger, IMO. Alot of it is fascinating to me, some is weird... and some is unbelievable. But for me...the bottom line is that some of these sessions just crack me up. I mean they are hysterical!

Someone asked about Mommy. IG could explain better - again reference the long ouija thread for the complete story. I interpret Mommy to be some super-intelligence from another dimension. Perhaps a self-aware artificial intelligence? Actualized multi-dimiensional supercomputer? IDK. Her answers are amazing.

To IronGhost. Forget the criticism about lengthy posts. People can read or not....their choice. I choose to read and enjoy. Smiles.

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I know I enjoy IronGhost posts, though the thought of how long these session must have taken boggles the mind. Also slightly surprised people want to talk to you since there's been a few times you've gotten people killed. :P

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I am not criticizing Iron Ghost in anyway.

I have experienced something that no one else would possibly believe, so there is no way that I can claim that he is full of @#%$! so to speak.

Many unbelievable things happen in our small world everyday that defies logic. I have just learned to look at things such as this in all angles.

I am not ruling out any of the possibilities,

1. He is communicating with otherworldly entities.

2. He is a great fiction writer.

3. He is so enthralled by the thought of otherworldly fantasy that his subconscious is giving him an outlet through the ouiji.

4. IT'S SATAN!!!! OMG!!!!! (sorry -_- couldn't resist, I am actually surprised I don't see this more often)

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(Note: After considerable and rather tedious haggling with the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid, we were finally again granted access to Dr. 58. We decided to NOT pay over the 100 C-Chits as the Arbiter had requested because we felt that we should maintain a “some hand” over this character.

We started the bargaining by offering not 100 C-Chits but only five, at which point the Arbiter referred to us as “Debased Soul Cannibals.” To make a long story short, we got the Arbiter to accept 25 C-Chits -- and let this be a lesson to all of you who plan to dabble with Ouija entities -- there is no reason to ever let them push you around on any issue. So, anyway, on to Dr. 58, and I am omitting the opening salutations).

Question: So Dr. 58, the Arbiter of the Hassas Grid required us to pay a certain amount of C-Chits in order to communicate with you via your Hassas Grid. Are you also required to pay C-Chits?

ANSWER: I AM REQUIRED TO INFUSE THE GLASS BALL OF OIL WITH ENERGY.

Question: How do you do that?

ANSWER: THERE IS A METHOD AS OUTLINED IN THE VERDANTIC MYSTERIES WHICH INSTRUCTS THE TRANSFER OF HUMAN CHI INTO THE LIQUID INSIDE THE GLASS BULB.

Question: Okay, well, we really want to know so much more about so many thing, including the satellite disasters you mentioned. But first, we can’t help but ask about something we are very curious about, and that is the Mississippi River. This is the largest river in America and essentially bisects the country down the middle -- the river has its source inside Minnesota, in a place we call Lake Itasca. What are your feelings about the fact that this massive river emerges from inside the borders of Minnesota and flows into the outside normal world.

(There is a long pause).

ANSWER: IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL IT? THE MISSISSIPPI?

Question: Yes, what do you call it?

ANSWER: I’M AFRAID. I DON’T KNOW IF I SHOULD SPEAK ITS NAME. IT’S ILLEGAL AND DANGEROUS.

Question: Well, so far you have come to no harm during our discussion, and remember your protection of Codicil 13. So can you tell us more?

(Another long pause)

ANSWER: THAT WHICH YOU SPEAK OF IS THE GRADITCH CHAX.

Question: That’s what you call the big river that flows out of Minnesota?

ANSWER: YES. IT IS THE SOURCE OF MUCH MYSTERY, LOATHING AND TERROR.

Question: Well, you mean to say that the entire Mississippi, that which you call the Graditch Chax which flows past Iowa, Missouri and all down through the nation must somehow be totally avoided? That just doesn’t seem remotely practical.

ANSWER: WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE PEOPLE DO? SWIM IN IT?

Question: Why not? The river is used for all kinds of activities, from shipping and boating to pleasure in our world.

ANSWER: NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD GO NEAR THE GRADITCH CHAX, OR EVEN LOOK AT IT. I CAN’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY.

Question: Well, we are just being honest with you, and we’re just having a conversation that you don’t have to take seriously. But, so your saying that millions of square miles of land adjacent to the Graditch Chax is kept clear of people?

ANSWER: YES, OF COURSE.

Question: What about where it meets the sea in the south, that which we call the Gulf of Mexico?

ANSWER: THE DELTA OF DREAD. AVOIDED.

Question: What have been some of the problems associated with the Graditch Chax, as you call it?

ANSWER: NUMEROUS TO MENTION. FRIGHTENING TO SPEAK OF.

Question: Please just tell us one thing, give us one example, could you?

(A long pause)

ANSWER: MONSTERS, BIZARRE THINGS. WEIRD THINGS. THE MASSIVE FLOOD OF CORPSES AND BODY PARTS.

Question: Wow, you mean things like this are seen in the river, in the Graditch Chax?

ANSWER: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT? YOU SAY YOU ARE IN MINNESOTA?

Question: Again, your version of Minnesota is different from ours. We theorize that your universe is not ours. You are in some kind of parallel or other universe, similar to ours in many ways, but obviously vastly different.

ANSWER: THAT IS AM AMAZING CONCEPT. I’M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND.

Question: Well, we will tell you more, but first tell use about some of the incidents associated with the Graditch Chax, will you please?

ANSWER: THERE ARE MANY WHISPERS, MANY RUMORS. STRANGELY, SOME ARE WHIMISICAL, LIGHT HEARTED, BUT MOST ARE HORRID. FRIGHTENING TO SPEAK OF.

(Note: We could really sense that Dr. 58 was hedging on telling us anything more about the Graditch Chax, so we decided to see if we could ease him into the subject by asking about one of these “whimsical” episodes associated with the dreaded river.)

Question: Dr. 58, tell us about one of the more mild or whimsical incidents associated with the Graditch Chax, can you?

(A long pause)

ANSWER: A FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WERE THE INSECT MACHINES.

Question: What was that all about?

ANSWER: THERE IS NO OFFICIAL RECORD, BUT THE INCIDENT SPREAD RAPIDLY BY WORD-OF-MOUTH.

Question: What happened?

ANSWER: IN IOWA JUST OUTSIDE THE NEUTRAL ZONE ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTH OF MINNESOTA. ONE NIGHT, STRANGE LIGHTS APPEARED IN THE SKY IN THE SOUTH OF MINNESOTA. THEY APPEARED TO MOVE SOUTH. WITNESSES FROM A DISTANCE HEARD BIZARRE NOISES IN THE VICINITY OF THE WEST BANK OF THE GRADITCH CHAX. IN THE DARK, NEAR THE GRADITCH CHAX, STRANGE LIGHT FORMS MOVED.

Question: What happened then?

ANSWER: THERE WAS MUCH NERVOUSNESS. SUCH INCIDENTS ARE RARE. IN THE LIGHT OF DAY, HIGH-POWERED OPTICAL DEVICES SCANNED THE AREA TOWARD THE AREA WHERE THE ACTIVITY HAD OCCURRED.

Question: And this was in Iowa then, about 50 miles south of Minnesota near the Graditch Chax? And who did the scanning with the optics.

ANSWER: YES. THE GOVERNMENT. THEY SAW A ROW OF YELLOW DEVICES POSITIONED ON THE PRAIRIE SOME DISTANCE FROM THE CHAX.

Question: Were they investigated? What were they?

ANSWER: SINCE IT WAS WELL OUTSIDE MINNESOTA, THE HAZARD AUTHORITIES APPROACHED WITH SHOCK TROOPS. THE DEVICES. THEY WERE SMALL VENDING MACHINES. ON EACH WERE IMPRINTED WORDS IN AN ANCIENT LANGUAGE.

Question: What did the words say?

ANSWER: SCHOLARS SPENT MONTHS DECIPHERING THE GLYPHS. THEY WERE OF AN ANCIENT DEAD LANGUAGE. THE WORDS MEANT: “NO FAMINE.”

Question: How curious. And what were the machines? You say they were vending machines?

ANSWER: YES, EACH DEVICE CARRIED A WIDE HORN ON TOP. THESE WERE SUCTION DEVICES. THE MACHINES ATTRACTED INSECTS AND SUCKED THEM INTO THE HORN AND DOWN INSIDE THE DEVICE.

Question: And then what?

ANSWER: THE MACHINES WERE FRONTED WITH PANELS AND SMALL DOORS. A HORNY KNOB COULD BE MANIPULATED. THE MACHINE WOULD THEN DISPENSE A WRAPPED CAKE MADE OF INSECT MATTER.

Question: Ha! Ha! This seems just so totally ridiculous. What it sounds like you are describing is a kind of candy bar machine we have here in our world. You put money into is and is kicks out a candy bar. Do you know what we are talking about?

ANSWER: NOT REALLY.

Question: Well, you seem to know the term “vending machine.” This is essentially what we’re are talking about here. But what you seem to be telling us is that -- for some totally loony reason -- some strange people, or spooks or whatever, came out of Minnesota and set up some vending machines that are able to suck in insects from the air, then process them internally into edible insect protein treats for humans to eat -- ostensibly as a way to keep people from starving to death? Please, do you really expect us to believe this dippy story, Dr. 58? Certainly, you must be some kind of trickster ghost or sprite who is only playing with our minds via the Ouija board!

ANSWER: I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY EITHER.

Question: Are you really a 17-year-old from New York City?

ANSWER: YES. ARE YOU REALLY FROM MINNESOTA?

Question: Yes! Well, tell us then about these ‘No Famine’ machines. I mean, what were they made of? Metal? What were the insect cakes wrapped in? Plastic?

ANSWER: THE MACHINES WERE MADE OF BONE OF AN UNDETERMINED ANIMAL. THE INSECT CAKES WERE WRAPPED IN A LEAF MATTER, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE OAK LEAVES.

Question: Ha! Ha! We can’t take too much more of this! What was the power source of the machines? How did they produce suction to gather in insect?

ANSWER: THE HERESAY ON THE STREET IS THAT EACH MACHINE CONTAINED A SMALL BLACK PELLET THAT APPEARD TO SUPPLY POWER.

Question: Ha! Ha! What was the pellet made from? Plutonium?

ANSWER: WHAT IS PLUTONIUM?

Question: Never mind, we were just joking. It just all seems so ridiculous! But this would suggest that there is a sense of altruism and good in Minnesota if they were giving this wonderful gift to humanity, to keep people from starving with yummy insect cakes pulled free from the air! What did they taste like? Were they moist and delicious?

ANSWER: YOU ARE VERY NAÏVE. THIS WAS NOT ALTRUISM. IT WAS SEEN AS AN ATTEMPT TO POISON PEOPLE, OR PERHAPS DRUG THEM AND MAKE THEM INTO MINNESOTA CLOOKS.

Question: What is a clook?

ANSWER: AN ANIMATED DEAD PERSON. A SLAVE.

Question: Well, couldn’t the insect protein treats be tested for toxins, or fed to animals?

ANSWER: VERY LIKELY, BUT OF THIS IS TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT ACTIVITY. NO ONE IS ALLOWED INFORMATION.

Question: So it is thought by your authorities that these ‘No Famine’ machines were sort of like some Minnesota Ghouls setting out rat traps for people in the outside world?

ANSWER: THAT WOULD BE THE OBVIOUS CONCLUSION. WHY NOT?

(Note: We ended the session there. We had a few beers and had more than a few good laughs about the session. Later, we considered pitching the idea of automated insect protein machines to the U.N.)

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Another very interesting read IG. Thanks for sharing.

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I have experienced something that no one else would possibly believe, so there is no way that I can claim that he is full of @#%$! so to speak.

Try us. We're into this sort of thing.

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Ok if these people are scared witless of the Mississippi River how was Iowa settled? Or the rest of central and western US? Man score one for Mexico :P

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Interesting way it ended.

Saying that you were communicating with with someone else, perhaps the US in that government was using scare tactics to control it's people some how from avoiding sensitive areas.

Try us. We're into this sort of thing.

It is a bit off topic for this thread and forum.

Furthermore, I unfortunately do not feel like defending myself and listen to people attack me over claiming it to be true.

Thanks for the interesting read IG!

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Furthermore, I unfortunately do not feel like defending myself and listen to people attack me over claiming it to be true.

Lol. Boy can I relate!

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