Was Michael Jackson killed by the CIA?

[Cosmored]

I just saw this over at the "Political Manipulation / Cover-Ups / False Flags" section of the Davie Icke forum.

It seems that Michael Jackson had written a song that supported the Palestinians.

Here's the opening statement from post #1.

"The reason they killed Michael Jackson was because he was going to make a song similiar to "Heal The World" for the Palestinians. "Heal the World" was a song Michael made about children struggling worldwide hungry dieing and so forth. He made a song named "We've had Enough" which is about Palestinians getting slaughtered by the Israeli Defense Forces daily because of and despite being unarmed. He was to use his tour to expose this abuse by Israel against the Palestinians. Sheikh Abdullah bin Hamad Al-Khalifa "loaned" Michael Jackson the money for this. Michael Jackson's repayment was not in terms of money but the tour to expose this abuse by the cowardly state of israel. The MOSSAD/CIA therefore used an undercover agent with multiple identities to assassinate Michael Jackson. His name is Tohme R. Tohme. But because he is white it would bring an uproar of Arabs and Blacks both if his identity was revealed as well as the reason behind Michael Jackson's murder."

This idea had never occurred to me before. Of course I'm not in a position to know if this is true or not but I wouldn't rule it out.

[Amberlight]

MJ died to a drug overdose that was doctor assisted.

[Brakzar Break]

Wow. There's a conspiracy in everything now.

[Mr.United_Nations]

MJ wasnt murderd it was jsut an overdose adn the doctor tried to continue the medication.

[Torgo]

To quote a comedian: "Michael Jackson died of Michael Jackson"

[frenat]

Your first clue that it is likely completely bogus comes from your first sentence.

I just saw this over at the "Political Manipulation / Cover-Ups / False Flags" section of the Davie Icke forum.

[BertL]

To answer your question: No, he wasn't.

[Agent X]

Wow. There's a conspiracy in everything now.

There's always been a conspiracy in everything.

Some are true though. For example, the FBI does keep tabs on celebrities. That is a conspiracy.

But it's entirely another thing to say, well because Michael wore only one glove that meant he was keeping a hidden communication device for the CIA to record everything.

And to that kind of reasoning, I just gotta say .

[Sakari]

What about Mister Rodgers?

[Agent X]

Fred Phelps hates him and says he's in hell because his Denomination allows homosexuals in their churches.

I do not agree.

[acidhead]

Interesting OP....

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Dispute regarding lyrics and context http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Don't_Care_About_Us#Dispute_regarding_lyrics_and_context

The The New York Times claimed antisemitism on June 15, just days before the album's release. The publication highlighted the lyrics, "Jew me, sue me, everybody do me/ Kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me" and labeled them "slurs".[2] Jackson responded directly to the publication, stating:

The idea that these lyrics could be deemed objectionable is extremely hurtful to me, and misleading. The song in fact is about the pain of prejudice and hate and is a way to draw attention to social and political problems. I am the voice of the accused and the attacked. I am the voice of everyone. I am the skinhead, I am the Jew, I am the black man, I am the white man. I am not the one who was attacking. It is about the injustices to young people and how the system can wrongfully accuse them. I am angry and outraged that I could be so misinterpreted.[2]

When questioned further about the lyrics on the ABC News program Prime Time Live, Jackson stated, "It's not anti-Semitic because I'm not a racist person ... I could never be a racist. I love all races."[2] The singer also noted that some of his closest employees and friends were Jewish. That same day, Jackson received support from his manager and record label, who described the lyrics as "brilliant", that they were about opposition to prejudice and taken out of context.[2]. The following day, two leading members of the Jewish community stated that Jackson's attempt to make a song critical of discrimination had backfired. They expressed the opinion that the lyrics used were unsuitable for a teenage audience that might not understand the song's context, adding that the song was too ambiguous for some listeners to understand. They accepted that Jackson meant well and suggested that the entertainer write an explanation in the album booklet.[3]

On June 17, Jackson issued another public apology to anyone offended by his choice of words. He promised that future copies of the album would include an apology, by this point however, two million copies of the record had already been shipped. The singer concluded, "I just want you all to know how strongly I am committed to tolerance, peace and love, and I apologize to anyone who might have been hurt".[4] The next day, in his review of HIStory, Jon Pareles of The New York Times alleged, "In ... 'They Don't Care About Us', he gives the lie to his entire catalogue of brotherhood anthems with a burst of anti-Semitism: 'Jew me, sue me, everybody do me/ Kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me'".[5]

On June 21, Patrick Macdonald of The Seattle Times criticized Jackson, stating, "He may have lived a sheltered life, but there really is no excuse for using terms like 'Jew me' and 'kike' in a pop song, unless you make it clear you are denouncing such terms, and do so in an artful way".[6] Two days later, Jackson decided, despite the cost incurred, he would return to the studio and alter the offending wording on future copies of the album; "Jew me" and "Kike me" would be substituted with "do me" and "strike me". He reiterated his acceptance that the song was offensive to some.[7][8] Spike Lee noted a double standard in the music industry. While the New York Times asserted the use of racial slurs in "They Don't Care About Us", they were silent on other racial slurs in the album. Jackson used the word ****** on another song on the HIStory album, but it did not attract media attention.[9]

[Belial]

It's all pop music, no hidden messages just a guy making songs that might work musically, he died from taking to many drugs and it spiraled out of control when his doctor started to take control of him, the pressure of the mega stars demands and the doctors need to keep him calm via drugs lead to his death, NOT some government acting out some sort of revenge for a few words here and ther

[Robin_Shadowes]

He died at least 20 years ago. Since then he belonged to the legions of the undead a k a the zombies which explains his mummy-looks, don't you think?

[Cosmored]

When Michael Jackson talked, millions of Americans listened. When someone like that becomes politically-informed and starts to educate his fans, this is a big problem for the government as it's trying to keep Americans thinking inside the box. He had the potential to turn millions of politically apathetic people into informed people who think that the government is illegitimate.

If the US government can overthrow third world governments and install puppet dictators, killing a rock star should be child's play.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=179834

If Michael Jackson had explained the true history of Israel to millions of young people, it would have been a big problem for the government. Any person with an audience as large as Michael Jackson's would be risking his life by informing millions of young Americans that they are the bad guys in the world.

Here's a good book for young people on the subject.

http://www.amazon.com/Arabs-Israel-Beginners-Ron-David/dp/1934389161/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274039875&sr=1-1

[Cosmored]

A lot of people think that Martin Luthor King was killed by the American government because he was educating his fellow blacks about the real reasons the US was in Vietnam. Here's one of his speeches. It starts to get clear in the eleventh paragraph.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article16183.htm

(11th paragraph)

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Now, let me tell you the truth about it. They must see Americans as strange liberators. Do you realize that the Vietnamese people proclaimed their own independence in 1945 after a combined French and Japanese occupation. And incidentally, this was before the Communist revolution in China. They were led by Ho Chi Minh. And this is a little-known fact, and these people declared themselves independent in 1945. They quoted our Declaration of Independence in their document of freedom, and yet our government refused to recognize them. President Truman said they were not ready for independence. So we fell victim as a nation at that time of the same deadly arrogance that has poisoned the international situation for all of these years. France then set out to reconquer its former colony. And they fought eight long, hard, brutal years trying to re-conquer Vietnam. You know who helped France? It was the United States of America. It came to the point that we were meeting more than eighty percent of the war costs. And even when France started despairing of its reckless action, we did not. And in 1954, a conference was called at Geneva, and an agreement was reached, because France had been defeated at Dien Bien Phu. But even after that, and after the Geneva Accord, we did not stop. We must face the sad fact that our government sought, in a real sense, to sabotage the Geneva Accord. Well, after the French were defeated, it looked as if independence and land reform would come through the Geneva agreement. But instead the United States came and started supporting a man named Diem who turned out to be one of the most ruthless dictators in the history of the world. He set out to silence all opposition. People were brutally murdered because they raised their voices against the brutal policies of Diem. And the peasants watched and cringed as Diem ruthlessly rooted out all opposition. The peasants watched as all this was presided over by United States influence and by increasing numbers of United States troops who came to help quell the insurgency that Diem's methods had aroused. When Diem was overthrown, they may have been happy, but the long line of military dictatorships seemed to offer no real change, especially in terms of their need for land and peace. And who are we supporting in Vietnam today? It's a man by the name of general Ky [Air Vice Marshal Nguyen Cao Ky] who fought with the French against his own people, and who said on one occasion that the greatest hero of his life is Hitler. This is who we are supporting in Vietnam today. Oh, our government and the press generally won't tell us these things, but God told me to tell you this morning. The truth must be told.

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This is a pretty clear analysis of why the US was in Vietnam.

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/chomskyin1282.html

Anyone who has a large audience and thwarts the US in its endeavor to keep Americans thinking inside the box by informing people of the truth is risking his life.

At that time most people only had access to the American press.

http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc

http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman%20/Propaganda_System_One.html

The only glimpse of the truth they got was from informed people who travelled abroad. Martin Luther King was politially informed and he was starting to inform people and had the potential to really disrupt the US government's effort to keep the people thinking we were in Vietnam to defend freedom and democracy. It's quite plausible that they bumped him off before his campaign to inform people really took off.

Michael Jackson might have informed a lot of people of the true history of Israel and Palestine if he'd lived. It's quite reasonable to suspect that the US government bumped off Michael Jackson.

[Agent X]

He died at least 20 years ago. Since then he belonged to the legions of the undead a k a the zombies which explains his mummy-looks, don't you think?

MJ didn't die 20 years ago.

[Corp]

That was a joke

As for the OP no Jackson was not killed by the CIA he ODed. The only other person involved was his doctor. Why is that so hard to believe?

[Sweetpumper]

So, why did the CIA kill Ronnie James Dio?

[Agent X]

He was anti-American?

[acidhead]

When Michael Jackson talked, millions of Americans listened. When someone like that becomes politically-informed and starts to educate his fans, this is a big problem for the government as it's trying to keep Americans thinking inside the box. He had the potential to turn millions of politically apathetic people into informed people who think that the government is illegitimate.

Most logical post yet.

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Michael Jackson was the most popular person on earth when he was alive, he wasn't some politically motivated politician.... he was just an entertainer with the power to influence the whole planet.

-and he was black.

I rest my case.

[Sweetpumper]

He was black?

Edited May 17, 2010 by Sweetpumper

[Agent X]

Wait! He was a closet Muslim!

[Corp]

Before he died he was referred to as Wacko Jacko. I'm not sure how much real influence he had anymore.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

Cosmored, you really do have a problem with the concept of "on topic" don't you. You started a topic on Michael Jackson, if you wan't to discuss Martin Luther King then do so in a new thread.

[Astute One]

Now where is everybody getting the MJ OD info? We are being fed from the media. Is the media trust worthy?

Besides, MJ is worm food, and I don't care how he died. Nothing changes.