Human race 'will be extinct within 100 years'

[Fernand0]

The problem I see with that is that many in the Crime Culture, and thus likely to be caught up in crime, already have children by the time they serve their first prison time. So, then what are you going to do, sterize the children of Felons?

If you're going to start mass sterilization, best to start with the criminal element. If they had more than two children and if anyone who had more than two children was sterilized they would already be sterile.

[Guest]

If notables such as Kissinger (among many others) are talking about active population reduction, then it is already happening. Evidence pointing to a continuation of Eugenics into the modern era is not that difficult to dig up.

Sad but true that we should have let it come to this pass.

Br Cornelius

[Fernand0]

If notables such as Kissinger (among many others) are talking about active population reduction, then it is already happening. Evidence pointing to a continuation of Eugenics into the modern era is not that difficult to dig up.

Sad but true that we should have let it come to this pass.

Br Cornelius

Sterilization is a humane option to genocide. No one is killed. It has nothing to do with Eugenics if what is being controlled is the irresponsible breeding habits of people that are breeding themselves into extinction. No one should be considered inferior or unfit to procreate, they need to stop making their species extinct, whoever they are. They themselves will not live in the dystopia that leads to the extinction of the human race, that's no excuse to be irresponsible for the actions of your generation.

Sad but true

Edited June 20, 2010 by Fernand0

[Father Of Evolution]

And they get paid for it. In France many Muslim families rely only on Caisse d'Allocation Familiale, Family allocation program (I guess) for a pay check: more kids more money, free health care free food programs free lodging.

Caisse d'allocations familiales - What the * is this for real? damn. Now "they" don't have to worry anymore they can just go and overpopulate this world.

[Guest]

Sterilization is a humane option to genocide. No one is killed. It has nothing to do with Eugenics if what is being controlled is the irresponsible breeding habits of people that are breeding themselves into extinction. No one should be considered inferior or unfit to procreate, they need to stop making their species extinct, whoever they are. They themselves will not live in the dystopia that leads to the extinction of the human race, that's no excuse to be irresponsible for the actions of your generation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o

If we leave it to Elitists like Kissinger, who have other agendas as well, then we will inevitably end up with Eugenics.

Br Cornelius

[mitchall]

Scientist AKA Scienti"guesstists"

[Siara]

I somehow doubt famine will drive us to extinction. It may lower population with the wars it will bring, but won't kill us.

Boy, that's going to be an ugly time to be alive. Glad I'll be dead by then. I suspect that there will be a series of massive wars and then surviving humans will surface in remote hiding places in obscure parts of the world. Hopefully next time around humanity won't think that brainless compulsive reproduction is a celebration of life.

[J.B.]

The smart ones will know how to hide. The idiots will be fighting and dying. The in betweens who can open their eyes will be fighting their way into hiding, or directing the fighting in a way that saves people.

[Socio]

We may not be extinct, but the over population will have to be dealt with, either in a good way, or a bad way. And I can't think of many good ways to do it.

Now I don’t buy the global warming aspect of the argument, but the over population and over consumption is dead on.

It would be a difficult thing to do but if the human race is to survive it has to be culled just like any other species of animal to keep it healthy. We need to use natures number one rule to keep species at healthy manageable populations and that is survival of the fittest.

That means things like;

Liberals need to cease and desist with trying to save everyone in the world it can’t be done, not ever,in fact that mentality is doing far far more harm to the whole than any perceived good.

Nations that have will have no choice but to close their borders to those that have not, imposing a complete moratorium on immigration while introducing population control measures within their own borders.

No more aid to impoverished nations; they need to feed and house themselves or die off to a population size where they can. Or contraceptive laced aid to those nations that just cannot seem figure out they can’t feed their offspring yet still pop them out like coins in a Vega slot machine when it hits a jackpot.

I know it sounds cold and callus but the reality is if we do not let a large portion of the human race die off the whole human race will. Not only that but the way we are headed most species of animal and fish will be wiped out when we get to the point where humans hunt and kill anything they can consume to try and survive. (Oh and By the way that will include each other.)

[+DieChecker]

Not to be to critical - this is a typical engineers answer. Looking from an engineers perspective I to see that there are solutions to all the problems man has created. However I am an environmental scientist and see that these issues are far more complex, and the precidents for human action are far less rosy than an engineer would tend to believe.

It is a philosophical and existential problem which we face, and bar a very few individuals, I can see zip evidence that the population as a whole has changed its outlook from an expansionist consumption driven one. Whilst ever this situation prevails we are holding a large gun to our heads, and I personally do not see the prediction of a 100 yrs as been unreasonable. I say this in light of the fact that we have done almost all of the damage we now have to cope with in about a 100yrs.

Br Cornelius

I will admit that if we built an engineering fix to one of the world's problems we would likely create another, which we could then fix with another engineering task. Eventually the problems created by the fix would be small enough to be tolerated and even marginallized.

I'm unaware of how an existential problem could lead to extinction.

If we leave it to Elitists like Kissinger, who have other agendas as well, then we will inevitably end up with Eugenics.

If we leave it to each nation/state, we will eventually end up with one of the fundamentalist religons taking over due to their large families and secular familys being small. Would you rather leave the world to the Fanatic, or would you rather there be population control? Those appear to be the main two choices.

[Indiogene]

Maybe humans will finally destroy themselves without nuclear war, more like to have a terrible diet and sedentry lifestyle. There are more overweight people in the world now than famine-stricken starving people we all hear about from low inadequate food supplies. Obesity can eradicate whole country populations.

Our long work days, less sleep at nightsand too much time with technology to get our business done, as well children spend most of their free time on the computer and watching 3+ hours of TV daily, can lead to a massive effect on all our health. Evolution has never kept up with our modern sedentary lives.

[ZELDAR]

I like your ideas DieChecker. We could populate the deserts and make them more habitable for humans.

[ZELDAR]

Idiocracy anyone?

[+DieChecker]

Maybe humans will finally destroy themselves without nuclear war, more like to have a terrible diet and sedentry lifestyle. There are more overweight people in the world now than famine-stricken starving people we all hear about from low inadequate food supplies. Obesity can eradicate whole country populations.

Our long work days, less sleep at nightsand too much time with technology to get our business done, as well children spend most of their free time on the computer and watching 3+ hours of TV daily, can lead to a massive effect on all our health. Evolution has never kept up with our modern sedentary lives.

But within the next 100 years???

The people in Africa suffering from Famine have been in the Famine for decades, and we have yet to see their populations drop significantly. Millions of people in overcrowded cities like Mumbi, or Peshwar, live in cardboard houses amidst titanic piles of trash, dead animals and bodily wastes, yet their populations continue to grow. I think humans have something in common with rats, in that we seem to thrive even in poverty and squallor.

At the end of time there will be rats, pigeons, humans and cockroaches.

[danielost]

the human race isnt going to go extinct, unless we start calling ourselves something else.

[Grandpa Greenman]

More than likely he is right, but we Americans will be the last to go, because we are fattiest and it will take longer for us to starve.

[Lopez7vii]

I don't think humans will go extinct anytime soon. But I do believe many are going to suffer or die as result of the consequences of industrialization in a more dramatic manner in the future. Many will probably die, but not all, and those few that remain will have the responsibility of reconstruction.

[Ignatius]

What a truly horrific age we live in where the concept of annihilation seems more likely than ever before. I am mortified to see such resignation and pessimistic loss of hope so prevalent. I cannot, however, dispute your views, I unfortunately, share the fear. What a cosmic farcical tragedy that the legacy of the human race may prove to be that we could have been brillant, but chose to destroy ourselves because we prefered to be foolish. If we must use a virus to cut population, I only hope it will eradicate the stupidity gene in the process. Perhaps then, any survivors can start over, and build a better civilisation from the ashes of the one we've so apathetically messed up. If religon ever had meaning for me, no more so than now. Before we go, I'd just like to say goodbye to my soul-mate, wherever she is. What a pity we never got to meet. Here's hoping for a miracle...cheers, everbody!

[Drev]

What a truly horrific age we live in where the concept of annihilation seems more likely than ever before. I am mortified to see such resignation and pessimistic loss of hope so prevalent. I cannot, however, dispute your views, I unfortunately, share the fear. What a cosmic farcical tragedy that the legacy of the human race may prove to be that we could have been brillant, but chose to destroy ourselves because we prefered to be foolish. If we must use a virus to cut population, I only hope it will eradicate the stupidity gene in the process. Perhaps then, any survivors can start over, and build a better civilisation from the ashes of the one we've so apathetically messed up. If religon ever had meaning for me, no more so than now. Before we go, I'd just like to say goodbye to my soul-mate, wherever she is. What a pity we never got to meet. Here's hoping for a miracle...cheers, everbody!

You make it sound as if the end is coming somewhere this week

[Alienated Being]

No, we won't go extinct - there will be those who will survive. We call those the strong. Remember Darwin's theory of natural selection? Survival of the fittest. The weak die off. I will not be one of those weak.

Edited July 16, 2010 by Alienated Being

[Indiogene]

Caisse d'allocations familiales - What the * is this for real? damn. Now "they" don't have to worry anymore they can just go and overpopulate this world.

Explanation: France wants to restore its pre-World War I population, but also wants more native-born French families to have about 3 kids...or "one more" to preserve the natural balance of a replacement rate to produce a younger healthier workforce. Wars that France fought on their soil has cost hundreds of thousands of young males' lives essential to repopulate the country, as well millions of French youth are struggling to rebuild an economy devastated by the wars.

After the two world wars, Frenchwomen when they became mothers receive a medal for each newborn they had and the fathers collected monetary benefits to pay for raising a baby and extended family. The government restored this practice in peace time in the mid 1990s, among them was my aunt who had her third child received her special medal, just like "maman" and "granman" have before her.

In the words of WWII general turned president Charles de Gaulle (not in unisom): "A woman serves her duty in our country by becoming mothers to have new children, as much men are expected to grow up to be soldiers...and women faces injury in providing her service to her country". Similar quotes was made by Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, a point of European socialist countries felt women played a role to contribute in the stability of general population growth.

[J.B.]

Well, when the brothers who made the Matrix trilogy had Agent Smith saying we were like viruses, they were not blowing smoke out of where the sun don't shine. It will take a lot to kill us off, no mistaking that. Just. . . if something big does happen, a great many of us are going to buy the farm (die). The way our society and even our bodies work, we're built to be one of the Universal pest species, and pests are notorious for coming back from the brink only to keep doing what they do best.

[27vet]

Prophets of Doom have been around since the year dot and we are still here. Overpopulation is still a big problem, however.

[Eldorado]

Kill everyone over 70 (that would include the professor who believes we will soon be exctinct...he's 96)

Problem solved.

Edited July 17, 2010 by Eldorado

[jesspy]

this is just why i feel world war 3 is comeing soon.

Possibly maybe if Nth Korea doesn't stop rattling its saber. I would say multiple smaller wars but not a World War but i guess if many nations are at war thats a kinda world war...anyway

Scientists are even now are working in labs to create new strains of deadly viruses - (many are afraid they may have depopulation in mind through biological warfare?) Another World War could also go a good way towards depopulation as well. If depopulation were to occur on a large scale, and I do believe the rich and powerful will see to that!! then of course running out of food would no longer be an issue.

Biological warfare is a threat. As above world war a possibility. Maybe the "rich and powerful" are keeping food away from poorer countries to keep them held back. To stop them from progressing and in away keep population checked.

Break dogma and introduce serious education into the less advanced nations. That'll cut down the birthrate. In America it's the undereducated and the unstoppably religious who have huge families. Encourage more adoption to drop the orphan population down, and if enough people are adopting, they're not trying to have kids who are biologically their own. Honestly, think every couple should have one child of their own, and adopt any others they want.

If it helps I have chosen not to have children. ( i have cats) My mother is annoyed by that fact but i told her to send the same amount of money to charity that she would spend on gifts for grand kids. I would rather be a foster mother. I dont know if i would adopt but i would do that over having kids of my own.

You know what'll happen in 100 years? Someone will be looking for how the end of humans is going to come about. 100 years ago we were waiting for the end, so I don't think it'll change much. We'll be lucky if we have flying cars by then.

True. Where's my jet pack? maybe in another 100 years.

The human race is not going extinct. Not from overpopulation. What naturally happens is when overpopulation occurs, there is a die-back. This could be due to starvation, or plague or whatnot. The only reason it has not happened already is modern science.

"die-back"-We have had a bottle neck in the past where the population got very low with a limited gene pool. I think the theory suggests 70 odd thousand years ago after the volcano in the pacific somewhere. Humans recovered from that and would probably recover form another. We are the only species to be able to live in every climate.

True science does prevent us from a "die-back" Imagine all those people who would be dead now if we had not eradicated small pox or came up with vaccines in the first place, if we didn't know how to treat cancers, the treatment of heart diseases and diabetes and if we didn't put seat belts in cars. Science "plays God" what would have killed someone at 40 can now be cured. Babies with deformities were left to die now we have treatments and cures for some of the problems. We have charities raising money to research every other problem.

I will be honest and say we need to do something about our population even if it means we have to be "cruel to be kind".

Whether it by war, famine, disease, forced castration, age caps, one child per family, population caps, etc.

Whatever happens whether we die or expand its what we will have to deal with.