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It's a Gaff IMO, staged and filmed.

A Gaff? :blink:

It looks like a bovine calf that's been dead for a couple of weeks to me. :unsure:

The "humps" on the back are just part of the normal vertebrae - possibly digitally enhanced.

The "fang" (only one?) also possibly staged to suggest that this is "El Chupacabra"

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Oops - Didn't get a good look of the feet until I saw the larger photograph. I guess it's not bovine then :rolleyes:

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looks like a decomposing carcass to me. the tooth only looks funny because after death when decomposition begins to take place, the gums and nail beds recede giving the appearance that they are longer or have grown when they are the same as they were before death. the spikes on the back are the vertebrae protruding through the thin, decomposing skin. since this "creature" was found in New Mexico where I assume it gets pretty damn hot in the desert, I'd say that the decomp was accelerated and the sun contributed to the deformation of the carcass as well as scavengers (I'm training to be a coroner, decomp is a big part of our studies ;] ) it looks like a dog of some sort. nothing paranormal. :/ how cool would it be though if it was unexplainable?

i do agree though that the tooth doesn't look natural. it looks fabricated as do the humps on the back, even if the humps weren't fabricated, it could easily be explained by the tightening the skin does during decomp due to loss of moisture on the vertebrae causing them to appear to be strange paranormal appendages.

People used to dig up bodies that were suspected of being vampires and find that their nails appeared to have grown and that their teeth and hair had also appeared to have grown after death. now with decomp research we have explained those occurrences to be the result of the skin receding and causing more of the nails, teeth, and hair to be exposed, which appears to have happened with this picture.

this is definately a canine carcass

You have taken the words right out of my mouth. :tu: My first impression was the corpse of a coyote.

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looks like a decomposing carcass to me. the tooth only looks funny because after death when decomposition begins to take place, the gums and nail beds recede giving the appearance that they are longer or have grown when they are the same as they were before death. the spikes on the back are the vertebrae protruding through the thin, decomposing skin. since this "creature" was found in New Mexico where I assume it gets pretty damn hot in the desert, I'd say that the decomp was accelerated and the sun contributed to the deformation of the carcass as well as scavengers (I'm training to be a coroner, decomp is a big part of our studies ;] ) it looks like a dog of some sort. nothing paranormal. :/ how cool would it be though if it was unexplainable?

That is basically what I was going to say. It is just a dried out dog, or maybe a coyote. I've seen spinal bumps like that on well dried out deer that I've found in the woods. That does not look unusual to me. The tooth also does not look so unusual when you consider all the soft tissue has shrunk down onto the bone. That skin was probably tight as a drum.

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From my own thoughts it looked shopped, because the spine looks a little bit off I think the liquefying tools, and dodge tool did that from the pictures Fernando gave us. I use Photo shop a lot it very much looks like the dodge tool, and Liquefying tool was used to make the spine, and tooth. :geek:

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This is apparently a red fox skeleton also. Although the placement of the "spines" seem to be slightly off, you could also argue that New Mexico carcass is in a strange, scrunched up position... which could lead to the bones protruding like the seem to be.

The fang is also pretty visible, seems to be in proportion in both.

I don't think it's doctored in PS, maybe enhanced due to it being (most likely) a crappy cell phone picture to start with, seems to be pretty pixilated for the level of zoom in the previous post.

Just my $0.02

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this is photoshopped. i know the results of a crappy "smudge tool" job when i see one.

the spines on the back are TOTALLY just photoshopped in. as someone who uses photoshop on a daily basis for coloring and blending colors in my comic book, this is totally fake! the "fang" could have just as easily been smudged over to be extra long and the snout looks like it was "stretched" using the "magic lasso" just enough to be "odd". but those "spines".....100% photoshopped.

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oh yeah, and if ONE aspect of a photo is false.....the rest of it is just as worthless.

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[Coyote]

I considered that as well at first. The coyote's canines are not as pointed or elongated as a fox.

Coyote

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Red Fox

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Also, the red fox's snout is slightly more elongated and it has a smaller nose.

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As far as the photoshop, I'll leave that to the forensic computer nerds.

Yeah me too. It's all a bit over my head I'm afraid :)

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oh yeah, and if ONE aspect of a photo is false.....the rest of it is just as worthless.

Not necessarily. If the guy did find a strange corpse he might have thought about it being a money-spinner. Maybe the fool did have a genuinely interesting new find but thought that it didn't look quite convincing enough and so enlarged the canine tooth in photoshop? Anyhow, I wonder whether the corpse is for sale? (I'll pm Saru to find out). Here's the hiker's New Mexico animal sculpture (which makes me even more suspicious) Donald Gialanella

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Its definitely decomposing. This animal has to be a fox, dog, or something of that nature. I doubt it's a "unknown creature."

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I considered that as well at first. The coyote's canines are not as pointed or elongated as a fox.

Coyote

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Red Fox

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Also, the red fox's snout is slightly more elongated and it has a smaller nose.

Nice catch! The picture does show longer teeth than a coyote. But if you look at the picture, the hind leg around the "knee" still has fur on it, and that fur (to me) looks just like some pictures of the red fox.

**The picture as in the one the one that shows the "mystery" creature **

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Not necessarily. If the guy did find a strange corpse he might have thought about it being a money-spinner. Maybe the fool did have a genuinely interesting new find but thought that it didn't look quite convincing enough and so enlarged the canine tooth in photoshop? Anyhow, I wonder whether the corpse is for sale? (I'll pm Saru to find out). Here's the hiker's New Mexico animal sculpture (which makes me even more suspicious) Donald Gialanella

i'm not placing any IF's onto a photo that has been altered with photoshop claiming to be a "real creature". whether or not he doctored the photo a little to make some money doesn't help the BS claim either. a strange looking decomposing canine corpse photograph, that is then CLEARLY altered in photoshop (and not just the tooth; the "spines" are totally fake) to somehow fever the excitement a little bit more.....and you're on the fence about it?

this is no different than any of the other countless paranormal/cryptozological photos that are faked using computers or fancy camera angles. if someone fakes even one part of their "evidence" to generate "buzz" how can the rest of the evidence be taken as credible?

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i'm not placing any IF's onto a photo that has been altered with photoshop claiming to be a "real creature". whether or not he doctored the photo a little to make some money doesn't help the BS claim either. a strange looking decomposing canine corpse photograph, that is then CLEARLY altered in photoshop (and not just the tooth; the "spines" are totally fake) to somehow fever the excitement a little bit more.....and you're on the fence about it?

this is no different than any of the other countless paranormal/cryptozological photos that are faked using computers or fancy camera angles. if someone fakes even one part of their "evidence" to generate "buzz" how can the rest of the evidence be taken as credible?

Can you show us your skills then by adding back spines to the red fox carcass photo without giving it away by identification of block pixelation? I would be impressed if you could. Thanks.
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I think its an untouched dead carcass. It appears unlike what most are accustomed to seeing so when presented with mysterious media the human mind will attempt to fill in the blanks with preconceived cultural concepts. Since modern culture is more disposed to having seen shopped photos compared to having seen dead fox carcasses the odds are that most minds will want to judge in favor of it being shopped.

I will also leave it to the forensperts as to whether or not it was actually shopped.

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I think its an untouched dead carcass. It appears unlike what most are accustomed to seeing so when presented with mysterious media the human mind will attempt to fill in the blanks with preconceived cultural concepts. Since modern culture is more disposed to having seen shopped photos compared to having seen dead fox carcasses the odds are that most minds will want to judge in favor of it being shopped.

I will also leave it to the forensperts as to whether or not it was actually shopped.

Here's an interesting coyote-like beast videoed running down a road in front of a sheriff's patrol car
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Here's an interesting coyote-like beast videoed running down a road in front of a sheriff's patrol car

It is blatantly a dog, those sheriffs have clearly not got much going on upstairs.

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Nice catch! The picture does show longer teeth than a coyote. But if you look at the picture, the hind leg around the "knee" still has fur on it, and that fur (to me) looks just like some pictures of the red fox.

**The picture as in the one the one that shows the "mystery" creature **

Those are patches of fur that haven't been affected by mange. The fox was also mangy.
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Here's an interesting coyote-like beast videoed running down a road in front of a sheriff's patrol car

I have to admit that I didn't listen to the comentarty on that video as i'm at work at the moment, but i'm a little confused as to what the hell it's meant to be showing. I mean, it's a dog...running....

If you look at this video, even in HD, it quite clearly shows Smugfish's winged hyrax! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD5R3o7NkzU

It's definately not a duck.

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It is blatantly a dog, those sheriffs have clearly not got much going on upstairs.

Blatantly a Mexican hairless dog/coyote hybrid you mean surely?
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What the-it's the Panama Creature all over again! :blink:

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What the-it's the Panama Creature all over again! :blink:

Summary: if it ain't alive with back spines it ain't worth mentioning anymore. Okay?
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Blatantly a Mexican hairless dog/coyote hybrid you mean surely?

Yes, a dog with mange.

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