Iraqi prisoner "abuse"

[bathory]

A poster here linked an article on women in Iraq who were raped. That was the soft core version. There are photos available on the net of womn being raped by gun point, one being the same woman described in the article. Beaten and gang raped. The rapists are American CIA agents who have adopted an interrogation method from Israeli intelligence, torture the female vicitm, in these cases somehow associated with a known terrorist, maybe by relation, marriage, friend, then rape them until they tell you all they know.

as far as i can remember the photos posted were a hoax, from a porn site as a matter of fact.

[alis]

that is disgusting, to put it mildly. those agents deserve to have something slowly sliced off of them, then worse! how can anyone support a country who uses tactics like that?

Edited August 26, 2004 by Magikman

[Fluffybunny]

It was fake alis.

[doink]

Do you have anything to confirm the photos are fake? article, porn site, anything?

[BurnSide]

I remember seeing the site, i don't remember what it was but the local newspaper here did an article on it. I think it was one of those russian fetish sites.

[zukie&jim]

a better question would be--do you have anything to confirm the photos are real ?

[bathory]

Fkae fake fake

[doink]

Regardless of wether the photos in question are fake or not, there are the documented and confirmed cases of rape and abuse that the American government does have. Even if these photos are fake, all they do is demonstrate what has been done anyways. It's real simple, a public apology would at least let the world know the American military takes responsiblity for the people that represents us.

[Dowdy]

... those agents deserve to have something slowly sliced off of them, then worse! ...

their head?

I'll tell you something, if my country was invaded by a force based on unproven 'evidence' and then one of my family member or countrymen were put in prision so pretty much no reason and be humiliated and tortured like that, i'll be really REALLY p***ed off...

wouldn't you?

[alis]

i was thinking of slicing something else off dowdy but i understand why you say head.

ive found a few links here with a little evidence of rape, though i realise that some people will deny these sources and call them fake and lies.

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even the fellow female soldiers are reporting incidences of it happening to them, so why are some people so sure it isnt happening to the iraqi people.

link

Edited August 27, 2004 by alis

[+joc]

I'll tell you something, if my country was invaded by a force based on unproven 'evidence' and then one of my family member or countrymen were put in prision so pretty much no reason and be humiliated and tortured like that, i'll be really REALLY p***ed off...

wouldn't you?

Dowdy,

You are sounding as if you believe Iraq was just another country innocent of any thing being picked on by the mean old USA.

Let me reword it for you so it makes more since:

I'll tell you something, if my country were a dictatorship and one of my family members or countrymen were put in prision for absolutely no reason and were tortured by having their hands, feet, and genitals cut off or mutilated, and my mother and my sisters were raped repeatedly for days at a time, , i'll be really REALLY p***ed off...and I'd be grateful to anyone who came and took that SOB away and freed my country from the horrific regime it was under!

See how much better that sounds? The Truth always sounds better than the Lie.

your welcome

[Stellar]

Joc... you mean, the people who come in there, promise to put an end to the likes of SH, and then you hear stories of how they did the exact same thing?

[wunarmdscissor]

Joc... you mean, the people who come in there, promise to put an end to the likes of SH, and then you hear stories of how they did the exact same thing?

that isnt like you stellar??

[Stellar]

What isnt like me?

[wunarmdscissor]

kinda sounded like wwhat i was gonna post lol.

I dont think we;ve agreed on much on this particular subject lol.

thats all i meant.

[Dowdy]

yes, but that wasn't the reason for going to war, was it?

If i remember correctly it was something about weapon on mass destruction, which they still havn't found.

You can't change your motives just because your reason for going to war were bull****

Who should america get rid of next if they want to remove dictators....

This repeat offense features Dubya fantasizing openly about being a dictator.

1. It would be a heck of a lot easier to be a dictator than work in a democracy. (1996 - referenced in J.H. Hatfield's "Fortunate Son", when Dubya was governor of Texas)

2. You don't get everything you want, a dictatorship would be alot easier. (July 1998)

3. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier... just so long as I'm the dictator. (Dec. 18, 2000 - shortly after his contentious victory in the Supreme Court that resulted in his becoming president)

4. A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it. (July 26, 2001)

5. It's not a dictatorship in Washington, but I tried to make it one in that instance. We are beginning to see some success in opening up federal coffers for faith-based programs. (Jan. 15, 2004)

source

[Stellar]

yes, but that wasn't the reason for going to war, was it?

Would it really matter to you? If I was living in a dictatorship where I feared being tortured/killed every single instant of my life, and country invaded my country and I knew I thought it would ease my life and fear... I wouldnt give a damn if they went in to liberate us, remove the countries WMDs or even just get oil.

[Dowdy]

Would it really matter to you? If I was living in a dictatorship where I feared being tortured/killed every single instant of my life, and country invaded my country and I knew I thought it would ease my life and fear... I wouldnt give a damn if they went in to liberate us, remove the countries WMDs or even just get oil.

So now it's alright that they went after oil?

The death count is still the same. 11707 Reported civilian deaths resulting from the US-led military intervention in Iraq as of Thursday, 26th August 2004

here

[Stellar]

I said that if I was living under a ruthless dictator, I wouldnt care what they went in for. Also, let me see, 11707 civilian deaths... after what? a year and a half of the coalition being there? Werent thousands dieing each month under Saddam and the sanctions?

[wunarmdscissor]

I said that if I was living under a ruthless dictator, I wouldnt care what they went in for. Also, let me see, 11707 civilian deaths... after what? a year and a half of the coalition being there? Werent thousands dieing each month under Saddam and the sanctions?

oh i get it.

so its better cos we;re only killing marginally less civilians.

Why arent those stupid Iraqis celebratin on the streets??

[Stellar]

I think its better cuz its still possible that more people will end up living because of the war, and they will live better lives

[bathory]

so its better cos we;re only killing marginally less civilians.

well technically its the iraqi militia/foreign fighters/terrorists/bathists who are killing the iraqi civilians in large numbers, unless of course the US has started to use car bombs and suicide bombers

[wunarmdscissor]

oh yeah that right cos the uranium tipped shells that we're using over there cause really minimal damage lol.

[Stellar]

its depleted uranium and theres no indepth study of it that confirms that it is terminally dangerouse.

[+joc]

oh i get it.

so its better cos we;re only killing marginally less civilians.

Why arent those stupid Iraqis celebratin on the streets??

You obviously don't get it. You would have a different perception of it all it you were living in Iraq and had first hand knowledge of the evil of that regime.

Btw, ............on a different note.........as a Hendrix fan I have to ask you, have you ever heard the Rainbow Bridge album? Specifically Hey Baby? That song is just so awesome!