Question for remote viewers

[Big Bad Voodoo]

I think that all you know that Ingo Swann "was" on Jupiter. So my question for remote viewers is:

Why dont you find the Aliens for us? Or "new earth"?

What do you think guys, why cant they find aliens?

Edited December 1, 2010 by the L

[Sevastiel]

I think that all you know that Ingo Swann "was" on Jupiter. So my question for remote viewers is:

Why dont you find the Aliens for us? Or "new earth"?

What do you think guys, why cant they find aliens?

If my own experiences are any indication? It's not always (or ever in my case) a choice.

There's also the 'trigger' version, which requires a pertinent or charged object in order to accomplish a remote view. So I guess in that case you'd need to give the viewer a significant object from the target of choice and see where that goes. The third, which I've personally found irritating and grounds for letting this particular subject go, is the implication of ability of focus and correctness of envisioning. That's a summary complicated way of saying that if what I imagine a scene to be doesn't mesh up with what you're imagining it to be, then what I say will be based upon my own bias and thus not match what you expect, and therefore incorrect from the very beginning. A fourth alternative could be that, assuming any alien being were near us, visiting us, etc, such a being could be assumed to be more evolved across pretty much any/all facets and thus could potentially prevent any undeveloped ability/prescience on our part from touching their own, though that's stretching the sci-fi barrier no matter how much sense in might make.

[White Crane Feather]

I think that all you know that Ingo Swann "was" on Jupiter. So my question for remote viewers is:

Why dont you find the Aliens for us? Or "new earth"?

What do you think guys, why cant they find aliens?

Spirit travelers have made contact already. Intergalactic distances are much to far for even some of the most developed cultures. Instead they have developed their minds and have visited spirit travelers for ages. Does that sound to crazy? If you had the option of going somwhere with your mind vrses a tremendouse amount of energy to go there in body, which would you choose? Especially if it were impossible to go in body.

[White Crane Feather]

I think we will do the same evenchually. We will nit travel the stars with the enterprise, it will be our minds. Indeed we already are.

[Agent. Mulder]

Spirit travelers have made contact already. Intergalactic distances are much to far for even some of the most developed cultures. Instead they have developed their minds and have visited spirit travelers for ages. Does that sound to crazy? If you had the option of going somwhere with your mind vrses a tremendouse amount of energy to go there in body, which would you choose? Especially if it were impossible to go in body.

And these ET entities are, where?

[Big Bad Voodoo]

There's also the 'trigger' version, which requires a pertinent or charged object in order to accomplish a remote view. So I guess in that case you'd need to give the viewer a significant object from the target of choice and see where that goes.

Sevastiel I know at least 5 planets where can we expect to find aliens.

Edited December 2, 2010 by the L

[Sevastiel]

Sevastiel I know at least 5 planets where can we expect to find aliens.

I'm not sure whether you're defending yourself from what you might have perceived as an attack from me, or whether you're just telling me that? I merely gave examples of triggerable circumstance. Do note though that I did say I've also had these otherwise inexplicable experiences without triggers...or at least triggers that I'm aware of. I'm well aware that these things exist. But, like the overwhelming percentage of the logical/scientific community, I'm also well aware of the ratio of frauds to potential legits (or unexplained in any case).

I myself would be more than willing to hear of those 5 planets. But I think you're also astute enough to know that the moment you post them, coupled with your statement, that there are more than enough others here on UM that will dogpile you from all manner of direction. If you can stomach that, then feel free to reveal. I'm interested in any case.

[Sevastiel]

This might help, if anyone is wondering about Ingo Swann.

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Statement.html

It's interesting material.

(Edit : that was 1 link from the list http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/1.html)

Edited December 3, 2010 by Sevastiel

[Big Bad Voodoo]

@Sevastiel

Im not defending myself. I said that I know atleast five planets where can we expect aliens because science told us that . If I know about five planets then remote viewers know about them too. So Im just guessing if I have remote viewing gift I would closed my eyes and travel to those planets. If Ingo can go to Jupiter then I can go to Titan or Mars. That is logic, dont you think? And I have stomach for that, so :

1.HD 209458b

2.Enceladus

3.Europa

4.Callisto

5.Titan

Edited December 5, 2010 by the L

[Sevastiel]

@Sevastiel

Im not defending myself. I said that I know atleast five planets where can we expect aliens because science told us that . If I know about five planets then remote viewers know about them too. So Im just guessing if I have remote viewing gift I would closed my eyes and travel to those planets. If Ingo can go to Jupiter then I can go to Titan or Mars. That is logic, dont you think? And I have stomach for that, so :

1.HD 209458b

2.Enceladus

3.Europa

4.Callisto

5.Titan

Ah. I see. Good to see you're giving us something 'solid' to chew on in any case.

Now if we can get some viewers on board...

Makes me wish I did have the know-how to actively pursue such things rather than being a passive receiver of sorts. (Annoying actually)

Edited December 6, 2010 by Sevastiel

[Toolite]

@Sevastiel

Im not defending myself. I said that I know atleast five planets where can we expect aliens because science told us that . If I know about five planets then remote viewers know about them too. So Im just guessing if I have remote viewing gift I would closed my eyes and travel to those planets. If Ingo can go to Jupiter then I can go to Titan or Mars. That is logic, dont you think? And I have stomach for that, so :

1.HD 209458b

2.Enceladus

3.Europa

4.Callisto

5.Titan

Slightly off topic.. but, I would like to know.. Have you in your traveling ever been inside someone seeing what they were seeing?

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

[Big Bad Voodoo]

@Sevastiel

Best solid thing about this thread is that Ingo Swann was on Jupiter and that opens many questions.

Slightly off topic.. but, I would like to know.. Have you in your traveling ever been inside someone seeing what they were seeing?

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

How is that off topic? And answer of your question is: I guess so.

Edited December 7, 2010 by the L

[Toolite]

@Sevastiel

Best solid thing about this thread is that Ingo Swann was on Jupiter and that opens many questions.

How is that off topic? And answer of your question is: I guess so.

I said off topic because I know sometimes I am being shown places far away that I don't have access too.. Like for example I was taken to the Jordan River and I live in Florida..(lol) It was beautiful and because of what I was shown I was able to find it on the internet (pictures) to conect the dots because it was visual.

Then sometimes I am in a person seeing what they are seeing or beside them seeing what they are seeing... So there is just a difference.. and I though you were referring to you yourself going to another place vs seeing through someone else eyes.. that is at that location.

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Then sometimes I am in a person seeing what they are seeing or beside them seeing what they are seeing... So there is just a difference.. and I though you were referring to you yourself going to another place vs seeing through someone else eyes.. that is at that location.

Since I dont have RW expiriences I think that I dont follow you. Explain me difference.

[Toolite]

Since I dont have RW expiriences I think that I dont follow you. Explain me difference.

Sometimes I am called to be with a victim.. Gone in spirit and during that tramautizing moment for them I will be with them in spirit seeing everything that is happening..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Sometimes I am called to be with a victim.. Gone in spirit and during that tramautizing moment for them I will be with them in spirit seeing everything that is happening..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

Dont follow you. Please explain it to me like Im 5 y.o.

[Toolite]

Dont follow you. Please explain it to me like Im 5 y.o.

I'll give you an example but, I don't like to publically talk about this part of my gift but, I will use an example.

Wife is laying on the floor and her two boys are standing over her and she had been shot and I am in her seeing what she sees.. so I see the two boys looking at her and she looking at them and feel it was her husband standing over her..

Does that help?

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

Edited December 15, 2010 by Toolite

[Big Bad Voodoo]

I'll give you an example but, I don't like to publically talk about this part of my gift but, I will use an example.

Wife is laying on the floor and her two boys are standing over her and she had been shot and I am in her seeing what she sees.. so I see the two boys looking at her and she looking at them and feel it was her husband standing over her..

Does that help?

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

Yeah that helps. Can you see for example what is happening in other side of the world if you want?

[Grok]

Hi Toolite,

If you don't mind me asking, I viewed your tag line, do you think this aspect of your gift is part of the prophetic realm or giftings, or something altogether different? Also, are you escorted by the Holy Spirit or other divine entity during these travels? Does ths part of your gift take place during dreaming?

Edited December 17, 2010 by Grok

[Toolite]

Yeah that helps. Can you see for example what is happening in other side of the world if you want?

Yes I've been to another country in spirit before. Or just states - it depends on what is being shown to me..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Yes I've been to another country in spirit before. Or just states - it depends on what is being shown to me..

All The Glory Belongs To God Forever!

Can you go to the moon in spirit?

[Agent. Mulder]

@Sevastiel

Im not defending myself. I said that I know atleast five planets where can we expect aliens because science told us that . If I know about five planets then remote viewers know about them too. So Im just guessing if I have remote viewing gift I would closed my eyes and travel to those planets. If Ingo can go to Jupiter then I can go to Titan or Mars. That is logic, dont you think? And I have stomach for that, so :

1.HD 209458b

2.Enceladus

3.Europa

4.Callisto

5.Titan

Hmmm, Titan - a moon. Callisto - a moon. Europa - a moon. Enceladus - a moon.

Can you go to the moon in spirit?

Youd think so. But theyll probably make an excuse as to why they cant.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Hmmm, Titan - a moon. Callisto - a moon. Europa - a moon. Enceladus - a moon.

Youd think so. But theyll probably make an excuse as to why they cant.

So what if they are moons?

Excuse for what?! How does Ingo Swann went on Jupiter?

[Agent. Mulder]

So what if they are moons?

Excuse for what?! How does Ingo Swann went on Jupiter?

Amature astronomer, get frustrated when people call a celestial body something that it is not (calling a moon a planet).

As for ingo, hes a fraud in my books. Did you even read his jupiter stuff? Im surprised anyone would still find him credible after that.

[Big Bad Voodoo]

Amature astronomer, get frustrated when people call a celestial body something that it is not (calling a moon a planet).

As for ingo, hes a fraud in my books. Did you even read his jupiter stuff? Im surprised anyone would still find him credible after that.

Oh I see. That doesnt change my theory.

Lapsus linguae.

As for Ingo he is US gov. hoax. USA hated to see Uri and cccps Section 8. Ingo is USA reaction to all RW from Russia and Eatsern Europe IMO. However Section 8 made damage to USA. But that is another story.

When USSR had Nina hey we must have Ingo.

Edited December 20, 2010 by the L