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Woman paralysed for 23 years stands and walks


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It's like a concert, they guys make more when the place is sold out. Give them a good show and then pass the collection plate ;) It's all about money.

Perhaps if she says a couple of hell marys afterward it will be ok again. happy.gif

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It seems people see what they desire to see. A sceptic will see a lie and a fraud, a believer will see a miracle and the power of God.

To address one of the comments, God does not perform miracles willy nilly, in my opinion because in order for a person to be healed by faith, inherently thier faith in the healing must be absolute. In other words the faithless cannot be healed through faith.

Wouldn't that be sad if the only thing stopping people from living happily and mostly healthy would be thier own attitude?

I think you are right on the money. People will see what they want to. This expands to include just about everything, not just religion.

I think you are right about having Faith too. God does not heal those who do not think it possible. And He does not always heal everyone 100%. If you believe in God then you know you can not understand why, and if you do not believe you still can not understand why.

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Really, I would think her legs would have lost almost all muscle tone after this many years... I would really like this to be true..But I am finding it most difficult to believe..Hell has a "special Nook" for fakeness on this level...

Her legs look pretty thin in this pic.

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Her legs look pretty thin in this pic.

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Not really.

Like I said this is a rock concert for those that don't care they paid $300.00 to watch someone lip sync aka fake it.

However isn't it nice to know god took her legs away 23 yrs ago and gave them back, what a generous dude :innocent:

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It's like a concert, they guys make more when the place is sold out. Give them a good show and then pass the collection plate ;) It's all about money.

I agree this does look set up. Probably she has been seeing a physical therapist and is only now showing her ability to walk in public. Still the point that she can walk again at all can be called a miracle. The Faith that lets someone try to do something like this is the same that puts drives anyone else to try to recover from an injury, only she is putting the Credit on God and not on herself.

I've been to several of these circus like revivals and I've seen a lot of weird stuff. Enough to not doubt that it can happen. I've seen old people get up out of wheelchairs and walk around and some unclench a fist that had only been a claw for years. I've seen a blinded person open their eyes and walk about saying they see colors. I've heard of people cured of chronic headaches and people cured of cancer. My pastor says that he was cured of Dyslexia, and now he can read from regular books without having a machine to read for him.

The power of Prayer is the same as the power of Suggestion. And, it is very powerful to the human mind. Basically reality is what you think it is. If you think you are a cripple then you are, if you think you are young and healthy, then you usually are more healthy.

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Not really.

Like I said this is a rock concert for those that don't care they paid $300.00 to watch someone lip sync aka fake it.

However isn't it nice to know god took her legs away 23 yrs ago and gave them back, what a generous dude :innocent:

Are you married Thong?

To me those are thin legs. I'd guess thinner then 95% of other adult women in the US.

Just my Opinon. I could be wrong. ;-)

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"The power of Prayer is the same as the power of Suggestion"

They are the same thing as a placebo, however it's the conman reverend getting the payoff over a lie. Criminal really. He was convicted in the 80's for real estate fraud.

edit: I think it was the mid 90's actually

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Are you married Thong?

To me those are thin legs. I'd guess thinner then 95% of other adult women in the US.

Just my Opinon. I could be wrong. ;-)

Married twice and both were under a 120 lbs. This lady has thighs man, 23 yrs in a chair and she would not have those thighs. She is naturally a smaller women but watch when she first stars walking. She has nice looking thighs not bone.

The US is getting a bit tubby it seems lol those are normal legs to me.

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Married twice and both were under a 120 lbs. This lady has thighs man, 23 yrs in a chair and she would not have those thighs. She is naturally a smaller women but watch when she first stars walking. She has nice looking thighs not bone.

The US is getting a bit tubby it seems lol those are normal legs to me.

You're a beginner . . . . I've had eight wives!

(only one was mine)

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You're a beginner . . . . I've had eight wives!

(only one was mine)

:w00t:

I still win :P

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The power of christ...what next? a summer season with river dance, come on peeps this is as fake as a snake in a wolly hat selling cigars to polish truck drivers in the south of france while watching CNN on there dashboard tv's, (random memory thought but you get my drift) :tu:

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Has anyone ever wondered why there is supposed to be a connection between the messiah and miraculous healing?

The messiah was never meant for to heal the sick.

No, this is fake as a snake... as someone just said. ph34r.gif

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You're a beginner . . . . I've had eight wives!

(only one was mine)

You have certainly licked me ,I have loved the same woman for twenty years

(and if the wife finds out she will kill me)

fullywired

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Whatever way you look at it, 'miraculous' heelings do seem to occur. Many a doctor and health specialist will vouch for that.

In most cases, "Many a (Christian) doctor and health specialist will vouch for that.

Countless cases of cancer remissions have been called miracles when they have medical explanations and the cancer often returns later (but never erasing the "miracle").

Things happen in science falling outside of current knowledge but the more that is learned, the less miracles happen.

You have certainly licked me ,I have loved the same woman for twenty years

(and if the wife finds out she will kill me)

fullywired

Agreed fullywired,

Behind every great man there is a woman

And behind her is his wife.

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You guys are so BAD!! But funny! Someone pointed out that she had heels on after being in a wheel chair for 23 years, good catch. I am a woman who was confined to a wheel chair after a bad car crash too. I was in one full time for about a year and when I started my physical therapy it was hell because I had not stood on my own legs for so long and they were pretty much useless! There is no way this woman stood and walked after 23 years of sitting! And you guys called it right, her legs are just to "chubby" for someone who sat in a chair that long. I have a freind who has been in a wheel chair almost 8 years now following a car accident and she is quite chubby, but not her legs they look like pencils!

My aunt use to build movie sets and lots of sets for TV shows. She told me about one of these so called "healers" that was doing a speical on tv and she did the set for his show. She was offered money to be in the audience and help work up the crowed. All these are bull pucky and it is all about the MONEY! I wonder how much she was paid for her "performance" at the end of the night?

If god wants to performs some real miricles why doesn't he feed some of the starving children or heal some of the cancer ridden children laying in hospital beds right now dying slowly in pain? Sorry, this kind of stuff is bunk and its all a ploy for more money.

Rocketgirl B)

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Compelling as these cases might seem, even if we were to rule out fraud (and I don't), there are still a plethora of possible explanations which don't involve a real miracle.

Probably the most likely in many of these cases is simple misdiagnosis: when a person is cured of something incurable, validity of the diagnosis should be the first port of call.

The most interesting one to me is a related phenomenon I've come across before: where a person seems to genuinely believe he or she is disabled but is not. As the result of an evangelical Christian 'faith healing', a chap was brought into a neurological rehab unit I used to work in, having done the 'rising from the wheelchair' thing at the requisite moment. He'd had a stroke about 15 years before and had been wheelchair-bound ever since. He had experienced the stroke at a time of intense stress in his life, as many people do, and had recognised the symptoms as he had had some experience of working with other people who had experienced a stroke.

He came in in quite a flurry of excitement (which I joined in with, the closest I had ever been to a successful faith healing), and the first thing we set about doing was to establish the facts of the case. Which turned out to be very difficult.

Ultimately, using a mixture of historical medical records, the patient's self-report and his family's recollections, we established a best guess at what had happened. 15 years ago, he had experienced a transient loss of consciousness during a time of stress. He had been found by his family, and rushed to hospital. Investigations were inconclusive, he recovered a bit, and was sent home to convalesce pending further investigations. He convinced himself that he had had a stroke, having come across others who had, and began to notice any symptoms which fitted, and disregarded any which didn't.

These symptoms of course fitted the medical professionals' idea of a stroke too (being fairly 'classic' symptoms), and the word began to be used in the notes, prefaced by terms like 'suspected' and 'possible'. Scans and tests were inconclusive, meaning they didn't find any evidence of a stroke. But because our patient believed he had had one, he would begin any consultation with a description of events in fairly definite language. Over the course of the notes, the language changed, and despite no new evidence the qualifications such as 'suspected' were dropped. About two years after the mysterious event, the notes baldly stated that this fellow had indeed had a stroke, based on very little evidence. Once that's in your notes, it's simply accepted by any other professional using them.

The stay in the hospital weakened his muscles somewhat, but this was interpreted by the patient as simply another stroke symptom. He began to rely on a wheelchair, which didn't help his muscles, which further wasted. His family, of course, were only full of sympathy and support.

Fast forward about 15 years to the faith healing session: told to 'rise up' for the first time since the imagined stroke, he did just that. Had a doctor done that years earlier, he would likely have done the same; but it turned out to be a faith healer who did. His legs were weak, but they did work. He had just accepted, wrongly, that they didn't. We were treating only the muscle wastage.

Rehabilitation was from that point on very much expectation-based: he was told to expect a full and rapid recovery, and this is what indeed he had.

If anyone had had a video camera handy, I'm sure that one would have ended up on YouTube as well.

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I was in one full time for about a year and when I started my physical therapy it was hell because I had not stood on my own legs for so long and they were pretty much useless! There is no way this woman stood and walked after 23 years of sitting!

Rocketgirl B)

So true. My father had knee surgery years back, and had to have his legs in immobilizers for 6 weeks. After that time, his legs had deteriorated considerably, and it took much effort and weeks of therapy for him to be able to walk again. I'm talking about 6 weeks here, and this story has the woman immobilized for 23 years! Of course the faithful will just say it worked because she was "healed".....

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So true. My father had knee surgery years back, and had to have his legs in immobilizers for 6 weeks. After that time, his legs had deteriorated considerably, and it took much effort and weeks of therapy for him to be able to walk again. I'm talking about 6 weeks here, and this story has the woman immobilized for 23 years! Of course the faithful will just say it worked because she was "healed".....

It could be that there is more to the story that actually could have been presented honestly. Perhaps she's been trying to walk and just couldn't bring herself to do it. Maybe she was ashamed or embarrassed at how clumsy and dumpy she looks wandering around like a slob. (Not saying she does just maybe how she felt) then she decides to go for it. And all the people are surrounding her because they know she can do it, she just has to try harder. So she does it with the faith and love of her friends.

That would be a beautiful honest story. But this is a joke.

Also to the person who said her legs look pretty thin here, did you miss the rolls of fat oosing off the sides of her thighs into the seat of the wheel chair?

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hehe, #42! i think i believe that as well, not a miracle but yes the human brain is realy amazing and sometimes the power of belief can indeed cause miracles

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You guys are so BAD!! But funny! Someone pointed out that she had heels on after being in a wheel chair for 23 years, good catch. I am a woman who was confined to a wheel chair after a bad car crash too. I was in one full time for about a year and when I started my physical therapy it was hell because I had not stood on my own legs for so long and they were pretty much useless! There is no way this woman stood and walked after 23 years of sitting! And you guys called it right, her legs are just to "chubby" for someone who sat in a chair that long. I have a freind who has been in a wheel chair almost 8 years now following a car accident and she is quite chubby, but not her legs they look like pencils!

My aunt use to build movie sets and lots of sets for TV shows. She told me about one of these so called "healers" that was doing a speical on tv and she did the set for his show. She was offered money to be in the audience and help work up the crowed. All these are bull pucky and it is all about the MONEY! I wonder how much she was paid for her "performance" at the end of the night?

If god wants to performs some real miricles why doesn't he feed some of the starving children or heal some of the cancer ridden children laying in hospital beds right now dying slowly in pain? Sorry, this kind of stuff is bunk and its all a ploy for more money.

Rocketgirl B)

Wait six months, we'll probably see her again in another city being healed of leoprosy.

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You've got to be talking about Benny, one of the biggest frauds of them all.

Are you saying you believe this?

That's who came to mind for me, good ole Benny Hinn.

There is no question this is fraudulent.

What amazes me is how many fall for this.:rofl: It's sad :cry:

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Mind over matter?

I don't doupt the possibility of god but it's much more unlikely. If the whole thing is real then I believe it was due to the power of belief. I have heard a lot of these kinds of stories and all the people who had miraculous healings had an extreme belief that they would be healed.

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