State multiculturalism has failed

[danielost]

You may feel you have the god given right to criticise my country, it does have many faults and i only defend it if the criticism isn't warranted, i've never once said anything bad about Bosnia, that's because i'm a better man than you.

i have never said anything against the british people, just the government and some of its policies, as i have done with my own country.

[hetrodoxly]

COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!

What have the lowland Scots done to you?

[danielost]

No mate your lot started the African slave trade hundreds of years before we got involved, and you carried it on long after it had been abolished here, some of your mates still do it,

Well, the tragedy of Canada and American natives hasn't stopped you living there and enjoying the benefits of those who opened the country up and left their bones scattered across the plains?

As i said those who just call themselves American are generally Brits the ones who made it possible for you to live there no wonder you think them great.

As an honouree Canadian you'll know this man well.

If you criticise his music i'll never speak to you again, i might even send my Canadian relatives around to sort you out.

the african slave trade was started by the spanish and the catholic church. in fact it was a priest who suggested they be used, because the indians couldnt handle it and were being killed by it.

oh and that was before the pilgrims landed.

[odas]

You may feel you have the god given right to criticise my country, it does have many faults and i only defend it if the criticism isn't warranted, i've never once said anything bad about Bosnia, that's because i'm a better man than you.

I did not critsize your country because of hate, mate. You should go back and read my first post on this subject. Meanwhile you are blaming me for something you started. Typical.

[Flashbangwollap]

the african slave trade was started by the spanish and the catholic church. in fact it was a priest who suggested they be used, because the indians couldnt handle it and were being killed by it.

oh and that was before the pilgrims landed.

As far back as ancient Egypt they used slave labour and possibly even before that.

I think today they call it "Sweat shops".

[danielost]

As far back as ancient Egypt they used slave labour and possibly even before that.

I think today they call it "Sweat shops".

true but those slaves were more equivilant of what we call indentured servants. after so many years they were allowed to go home. the sweat shops are more equal to the slavery we are talking about. although in many cases those people have no choice because there arent any jobs.

[Flashbangwollap]

true but those slaves were more equivilant of what we call indentured servants. after so many years they were allowed to go home. the sweat shops are more equal to the slavery we are talking about. although in many cases those people have no choice because there arent any jobs.

Agreed. I was just butting in to say that slavery has existed since the beginning of man but in differing guises.

[itsnotoutthere]

Agreed. I was just butting in to say that slavery has existed since the beginning of man but in differing guises.

Yes, still going on in africa & the middle east to this day, but hey, lets just get hung up on the 1700s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/slavery/modern/modern_1.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/slavery/default.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/africa_sudan0s_slave_voices/html/1.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6451267.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/6431957.stm

Edited February 11, 2011 by itsnotoutthere

[Mandrake]

Reading these posts is amusing. The issue that Cameroid was bleating about was failed enforced multi-culturism. Exactly the same as Merkel of Germany was bleating about last year. This failed multi-cultural Utopia is where lefty social engineering forces massive numbers of people into an already crowded island and then favours these immigrant hordes with more rights and protection that the indigenous people. Note that I say peoples and not people. I am Scots and not an ethnic Briton.

First, anyone living here will know that vast majority of these incomers are here for the free money, free healthcare, free houses, and to take advantage of us in every way imaginable. They are supported by a system that scorns the indiginous population and bends over backwards to shower the minority groups with my cash and at my expense. I never voted for that. Who did?

EUSSR and UK legal systems have become increasingly political and unconstitutional (yes we still have a UK constitution that has not been lawfully or legally replaced with the undemocratic EU constitution). This again favours the minorities when you try to get a case to court. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is a beast out of control. It again is a massively political quango with massive funding and its goal is simply to destroy our UK cultures and replace them with its own notions of how the other 65-80 million of us should live. Welcome to Soviet Britain peeps. Democracy hasn't lived here for some time. The country is now being run by an unelected and publicly unaccountable Third Sector of quangos, private companies and thousands of fake charities. All of whom suckle on the teet of the tax payer extorting billions of pounds of OUR money from us. Our party MPs are in the main bought and sold puppets of foreign powers. Honour has left these shores.

Von Rumpoy stated in a speech in Berlin (of all places!) that there was no room for sovereign statehood in the new Europe. He declared a war on sovereignty. Yep, he used the word 'war'. This from an unelected megalomaniac running what is increasingly becoming another disastrous soviet republic. The EU doesn't have the mandate of the people. It is a devious monstrosity run mainly by former communist party members who now claim they are merely socialists. hahaha They know that to destroy the idea of the nation state and national sovereignty they rely on three things. Re-education of us plebs. Total control of the media, legal and financial systems. And an army of brainwashed 'useful fools' who will be filled with an almost religious zealotry for political correctness and self-destruction.

I am proud of my culture as most people should be. It has withstood the test of time unlike most cultures. The difference is that when I live abroad I adapt quickly to the customs of that country and people. If I don't like the culture I simply go elsewhere. That doesn't happen in the UK. Cameron in an earlier speech actually stated that it was the Brits who had to adopt to arriving cultures. Really? Where did anyone get a vote on that? This latest statement is another U-Turn by the master of U-Turns.

Labour/ New Labour/ the Communist Party, whatever they want to call themselves encouraged mass immigration because immigrants will vote socialist. While in the short term this meant bums on seats in Parliament for the red menace it also ignored completely the long term problems that the rest of us working class folks could see on a daily basis. Mass immigration only benefits the corporations and globalists. It is intended to disempower the real working and middle classes and result in a new form of servitude based upon fear and intimidation.

And before any of you left, liberal apologists start cracking off with cries of 'racist' I suggest you do what I did and write to the EHRC to ask for a simple explanation of the word. They can't. It is a political tool that changes and shapeshifts to suit whatever the EHRC want it to do. It is a nonsense word. When did a Scouser (Liverpuddlian) become a 'race'. When did a Paddy (Irish) become a race. Scots isn't a race however. These are genuine legal cases that are used to define the word. When did being Muslim become a race? Its not even a religion. Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion. When did being Jewish become a race? Christians and atheists are not a race. Be careful if throwing the R word around without knowing what it means. You are simply complying with your state programming.

My other half incidentally isn't British and came from the former soviet union. She and her friend all say that we have less rights and freedoms in the UK now than they experienced behind the Iron Curtain. Scary eh? They see the communist infiltration and takeover techniques in place here that they learned as good little commies. The problem is that we in the UK are relatively naive and too trusting. We are being sold down the river by traitors into a future where this enforced multi-culturism and globalist agenda will result in Orwell's 1984. I like most cultures and indeed many of my friends heritage is not British. Its just the shear scale of it and the suppression of British cultures that is causing friction. Some cultures integrate well and some do not. This is a truism. To deny this is dangerous and naive.

The dis-United Nations refuses to recognise a British indigenous identity. Who are the UN to even decide they have the power to decide on such matters? This despite fantastic genetic research that dispels the myth that most Brits are relatively recent immigrants. An Inconvenient Truth that simply does not fit with their Agenda 21 and desire to homogenise humans as in Huxley's 'Brave New World'. If the truth doesn't fit the model then just deny it. Where have I heard that before.

If you are offended then that is your choice...ermmm.....and your problem frankly.

Last, in a previous post someone makes the hilarious statement that people in socialist states are happy. Really? I'm delighted to have the state hold a gun to my head while extracting most of my hard earned private sector money to squander and waste on 5 year projects and the inefficient sinkhole for cash that is the public sector! I'm delighted that very few schoolkids today in the UK can even begin to answer exam papers from a century ago. I'm delighted to watch news that only spouts lefty propaganda. I'm delighted that my politicians do what they want now without fear of repercussion. I'm delighted that our legal system has been eroded to the point where it serves the rich and just disempowers the poor. I'm delighted that my small business is swamped by mounds of legislation and rules that mean I create less jobs and can't compete in a world market. I am delighted that the bankers and socialist politicians conspired to wreck our economy for generations to come and share the plunder between them. I am delighted to see almost every single person I know here terrified of the future and genuinely afraid to speak out for fear of being criminalised in this fledgling totalitarian catholic superpower. Yeah, fecking delighted....

[Mandrake]

Yes, still going on in africa & the middle east to this day, but hey, lets just get hung up on the 1700s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/slavery/modern/modern_1.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/slavery/default.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/africa_sudan0s_slave_voices/html/1.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6451267.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/6431957.stm

Slavery is also alive and well in London within certain 'communities'. Can't complain about it though....its cultural.

[itsnotoutthere]

Reading these posts is amusing. The issue that Cameroid was bleating about was failed enforced multi-culturism. Exactly the same as Merkel of Germany was bleating about last year. This failed multi-cultural Utopia is where lefty social engineering forces massive numbers of people into an already crowded island and then favours these immigrant hordes with more rights and protection that the indigenous people. Note that I say peoples and not people. I am Scots and not an ethnic Briton.

First, anyone living here will know that vast majority of these incomers are here for the free money, free healthcare, free houses, and to take advantage of us in every way imaginable. They are supported by a system that scorns the indiginous population and bends over backwards to shower the minority groups with my cash and at my expense. I never voted for that. Who did?

EUSSR and UK legal systems have become increasingly political and unconstitutional (yes we still have a UK constitution that has not been lawfully or legally replaced with the undemocratic EU constitution). This again favours the minorities when you try to get a case to court. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is a beast out of control. It again is a massively political quango with massive funding and its goal is simply to destroy our UK cultures and replace them with its own notions of how the other 65-80 million of us should live. Welcome to Soviet Britain peeps. Democracy hasn't lived here for some time. The country is now being run by an unelected and publicly unaccountable Third Sector of quangos, private companies and thousands of fake charities. All of whom suckle on the teet of the tax payer extorting billions of pounds of OUR money from us. Our party MPs are in the main bought and sold puppets of foreign powers. Honour has left these shores.

Von Rumpoy stated in a speech in Berlin (of all places!) that there was no room for sovereign statehood in the new Europe. He declared a war on sovereignty. Yep, he used the word 'war'. This from an unelected megalomaniac running what is increasingly becoming another disastrous soviet republic. The EU doesn't have the mandate of the people. It is a devious monstrosity run mainly by former communist party members who now claim they are merely socialists. hahaha They know that to destroy the idea of the nation state and national sovereignty they rely on three things. Re-education of us plebs. Total control of the media, legal and financial systems. And an army of brainwashed 'useful fools' who will be filled with an almost religious zealotry for political correctness and self-destruction.

I am proud of my culture as most people should be. It has withstood the test of time unlike most cultures. The difference is that when I live abroad I adapt quickly to the customs of that country and people. If I don't like the culture I simply go elsewhere. That doesn't happen in the UK. Cameron in an earlier speech actually stated that it was the Brits who had to adopt to arriving cultures. Really? Where did anyone get a vote on that? This latest statement is another U-Turn by the master of U-Turns.

Labour/ New Labour/ the Communist Party, whatever they want to call themselves encouraged mass immigration because immigrants will vote socialist. While in the short term this meant bums on seats in Parliament for the red menace it also ignored completely the long term problems that the rest of us working class folks could see on a daily basis. Mass immigration only benefits the corporations and globalists. It is intended to disempower the real working and middle classes and result in a new form of servitude based upon fear and intimidation.

And before any of you left, liberal apologists start cracking off with cries of 'racist' I suggest you do what I did and write to the EHRC to ask for a simple explanation of the word. They can't. It is a political tool that changes and shapeshifts to suit whatever the EHRC want it to do. It is a nonsense word. When did a Scouser (Liverpuddlian) become a 'race'. When did a Paddy (Irish) become a race. Scots isn't a race however. These are genuine legal cases that are used to define the word. When did being Muslim become a race? Its not even a religion. Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion. When did being Jewish become a race? Christians and atheists are not a race. Be careful if throwing the R word around without knowing what it means. You are simply complying with your state programming.

My other half incidentally isn't British and came from the former soviet union. She and her friend all say that we have less rights and freedoms in the UK now than they experienced behind the Iron Curtain. Scary eh? They see the communist infiltration and takeover techniques in place here that they learned as good little commies. The problem is that we in the UK are relatively naive and too trusting. We are being sold down the river by traitors into a future where this enforced multi-culturism and globalist agenda will result in Orwell's 1984. I like most cultures and indeed many of my friends heritage is not British. Its just the shear scale of it and the suppression of British cultures that is causing friction. Some cultures integrate well and some do not. This is a truism. To deny this is dangerous and naive.

The dis-United Nations refuses to recognise a British indigenous identity. Who are the UN to even decide they have the power to decide on such matters? This despite fantastic genetic research that dispels the myth that most Brits are relatively recent immigrants. An Inconvenient Truth that simply does not fit with their Agenda 21 and desire to homogenise humans as in Huxley's 'Brave New World'. If the truth doesn't fit the model then just deny it. Where have I heard that before.

If you are offended then that is your choice...ermmm.....and your problem frankly.

Last, in a previous post someone makes the hilarious statement that people in socialist states are happy. Really? I'm delighted to have the state hold a gun to my head while extracting most of my hard earned private sector money to squander and waste on 5 year projects and the inefficient sinkhole for cash that is the public sector! I'm delighted that very few schoolkids today in the UK can even begin to answer exam papers from a century ago. I'm delighted to watch news that only spouts lefty propaganda. I'm delighted that my politicians do what they want now without fear of repercussion. I'm delighted that our legal system has been eroded to the point where it serves the rich and just disempowers the poor. I'm delighted that my small business is swamped by mounds of legislation and rules that mean I create less jobs and can't compete in a world market. I am delighted that the bankers and socialist politicians conspired to wreck our economy for generations to come and share the plunder between them. I am delighted to see almost every single person I know here terrified of the future and genuinely afraid to speak out for fear of being criminalised in this fledgling totalitarian catholic superpower. Yeah, fecking delighted....

Christ on a bike. Everything you say is spot on. (you didn't nick this from Old Holbourns blog did you) Excellent.

[Mandrake]

Multi-culturalism can't exist peacefully, historical experience proves it: in EU after the Roman invasion, the Celtic culture vanished, in UK after Normand invasion, the Saxon culture vanished or placed in serfdom, in the US Native Americans were wiped or send in reservation.

The strong only survives and it is the same today regardless. When you go to Paris, some neighborhood look now like third world city, regardless of the money that was pored in by now dead president Mitterand. Some groups are attempting to include sharia law into local laws.

The day it happen it will be the beginning of the end for Western world as we know it.

There was no EU after the Roman invasion. EU = European Union.

Glad to see the education system and media are doing their job in France....

[itsnotoutthere]

There was no EU after the Roman invasion. EU = European Union.

Glad to see the education system and media are doing their job in France....

Perhaps he meant 'Roma invasion'

[Mandrake]

Christ on a bike. Everything you say is spot on. (you didn't nick this from Old Holbourns blog did you) Excellent.

Thanks. Old Holby will need a replacement when he disappears off to his carrot farm in Bulgaria or wherever...

I'm also very active in the Lawful Rebellion movement here in England. I don't just whinge from behind a keyboard you know.

[itsnotoutthere]

Thanks. Old Holby will need a replacement when he disappears off to his carrot farm in Bulgaria or wherever...

I'm also very active in the Lawful Rebellion movement here in England. I don't just whinge from behind a keyboard you know.

Yes, i read all those blogs as well, & they all fit very well with my mindset. Pleased to meet you.

[Mandrake]

Yes, i read all those blogs as well, & they all fit very well with my mindset. Pleased to meet you.

And pleased to meet you mate. Feel free to pm me anytime

[dekker87]

Reading these posts is amusing. The issue that Cameroid was bleating about was failed enforced multi-culturism. Exactly the same as Merkel of Germany was bleating about last year. This failed multi-cultural Utopia is where lefty social engineering forces massive numbers of people into an already crowded island and then favours these immigrant hordes with more rights and protection that the indigenous people. Note that I say peoples and not people. I am Scots and not an ethnic Briton.

First, anyone living here will know that vast majority of these incomers are here for the free money, free healthcare, free houses, and to take advantage of us in every way imaginable. They are supported by a system that scorns the indiginous population and bends over backwards to shower the minority groups with my cash and at my expense. I never voted for that. Who did?

EUSSR and UK legal systems have become increasingly political and unconstitutional (yes we still have a UK constitution that has not been lawfully or legally replaced with the undemocratic EU constitution). This again favours the minorities when you try to get a case to court. The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is a beast out of control. It again is a massively political quango with massive funding and its goal is simply to destroy our UK cultures and replace them with its own notions of how the other 65-80 million of us should live. Welcome to Soviet Britain peeps. Democracy hasn't lived here for some time. The country is now being run by an unelected and publicly unaccountable Third Sector of quangos, private companies and thousands of fake charities. All of whom suckle on the teet of the tax payer extorting billions of pounds of OUR money from us. Our party MPs are in the main bought and sold puppets of foreign powers. Honour has left these shores.

Von Rumpoy stated in a speech in Berlin (of all places!) that there was no room for sovereign statehood in the new Europe. He declared a war on sovereignty. Yep, he used the word 'war'. This from an unelected megalomaniac running what is increasingly becoming another disastrous soviet republic. The EU doesn't have the mandate of the people. It is a devious monstrosity run mainly by former communist party members who now claim they are merely socialists. hahaha They know that to destroy the idea of the nation state and national sovereignty they rely on three things. Re-education of us plebs. Total control of the media, legal and financial systems. And an army of brainwashed 'useful fools' who will be filled with an almost religious zealotry for political correctness and self-destruction.

I am proud of my culture as most people should be. It has withstood the test of time unlike most cultures. The difference is that when I live abroad I adapt quickly to the customs of that country and people. If I don't like the culture I simply go elsewhere. That doesn't happen in the UK. Cameron in an earlier speech actually stated that it was the Brits who had to adopt to arriving cultures. Really? Where did anyone get a vote on that? This latest statement is another U-Turn by the master of U-Turns.

Labour/ New Labour/ the Communist Party, whatever they want to call themselves encouraged mass immigration because immigrants will vote socialist. While in the short term this meant bums on seats in Parliament for the red menace it also ignored completely the long term problems that the rest of us working class folks could see on a daily basis. Mass immigration only benefits the corporations and globalists. It is intended to disempower the real working and middle classes and result in a new form of servitude based upon fear and intimidation.

And before any of you left, liberal apologists start cracking off with cries of 'racist' I suggest you do what I did and write to the EHRC to ask for a simple explanation of the word. They can't. It is a political tool that changes and shapeshifts to suit whatever the EHRC want it to do. It is a nonsense word. When did a Scouser (Liverpuddlian) become a 'race'. When did a Paddy (Irish) become a race. Scots isn't a race however. These are genuine legal cases that are used to define the word. When did being Muslim become a race? Its not even a religion. Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion. When did being Jewish become a race? Christians and atheists are not a race. Be careful if throwing the R word around without knowing what it means. You are simply complying with your state programming.

My other half incidentally isn't British and came from the former soviet union. She and her friend all say that we have less rights and freedoms in the UK now than they experienced behind the Iron Curtain. Scary eh? They see the communist infiltration and takeover techniques in place here that they learned as good little commies. The problem is that we in the UK are relatively naive and too trusting. We are being sold down the river by traitors into a future where this enforced multi-culturism and globalist agenda will result in Orwell's 1984. I like most cultures and indeed many of my friends heritage is not British. Its just the shear scale of it and the suppression of British cultures that is causing friction. Some cultures integrate well and some do not. This is a truism. To deny this is dangerous and naive.

The dis-United Nations refuses to recognise a British indigenous identity. Who are the UN to even decide they have the power to decide on such matters? This despite fantastic genetic research that dispels the myth that most Brits are relatively recent immigrants. An Inconvenient Truth that simply does not fit with their Agenda 21 and desire to homogenise humans as in Huxley's 'Brave New World'. If the truth doesn't fit the model then just deny it. Where have I heard that before.

If you are offended then that is your choice...ermmm.....and your problem frankly.

Last, in a previous post someone makes the hilarious statement that people in socialist states are happy. Really? I'm delighted to have the state hold a gun to my head while extracting most of my hard earned private sector money to squander and waste on 5 year projects and the inefficient sinkhole for cash that is the public sector! I'm delighted that very few schoolkids today in the UK can even begin to answer exam papers from a century ago. I'm delighted to watch news that only spouts lefty propaganda. I'm delighted that my politicians do what they want now without fear of repercussion. I'm delighted that our legal system has been eroded to the point where it serves the rich and just disempowers the poor. I'm delighted that my small business is swamped by mounds of legislation and rules that mean I create less jobs and can't compete in a world market. I am delighted that the bankers and socialist politicians conspired to wreck our economy for generations to come and share the plunder between them. I am delighted to see almost every single person I know here terrified of the future and genuinely afraid to speak out for fear of being criminalised in this fledgling totalitarian catholic superpower. Yeah, fecking delighted....

<CLAPS LOUDLY>

[Mandrake]

Three things people need to learn to say in the UK:

1. Why and under what authority do you act?

2. No! (or p*ss off, as suits the occasion)

3. I refuse to contract.

[Psukhe]

Yes, still going on in africa & the middle east to this day, but hey, lets just get hung up on the 1700s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/slavery/modern/modern_1.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/slavery/default.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/africa_sudan0s_slave_voices/html/1.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6451267.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/6431957.stm

Heck it's still going on here in North America.

"An estimated half million women are trafficked annually for the purpose of sexual slavery. They are "exported" to over 50 countries including Britain, Italy, Japan, Germany, Israel, Turkey, China, Kosovo, Canada and the United States. Misunderstood and widely tolerated, sex trafficking has become a multi- billion dollar underground industry. S

According to the International Herald Tribune, human trafficking is the fastest growing form of organized crime in Eastern Europe. Kidnapped and/or lured by those who prey on their dreams, their poverty, and their naiveté, Eastern European women are trafficked to foreign lands -- often with falsified visas -- where they become modern day sex slaves. Upon arrival, they are sold to pimps, drugged, terrorized, caged in brothels and raped repeatedly. For these women and young girls, there is no life, no liberty and no chance for a happy and meaningful future."

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/sexslaves.html

[Mandrake]

Heck it's still going on here in North America.

"An estimated half million women are trafficked annually for the purpose of sexual slavery. They are "exported" to over 50 countries including Britain, Italy, Japan, Germany, Israel, Turkey, China, Kosovo, Canada and the United States. Misunderstood and widely tolerated, sex trafficking has become a multi- billion dollar underground industry. S

According to the International Herald Tribune, human trafficking is the fastest growing form of organized crime in Eastern Europe. Kidnapped and/or lured by those who prey on their dreams, their poverty, and their naiveté, Eastern European women are trafficked to foreign lands -- often with falsified visas -- where they become modern day sex slaves. Upon arrival, they are sold to pimps, drugged, terrorized, caged in brothels and raped repeatedly. For these women and young girls, there is no life, no liberty and no chance for a happy and meaningful future."

http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/sexslaves.html

Funnily enough I had a Canadian friend who worked for an international charity trying to force Eastern European Govts to taken action to protect their young girls from the sex slave trade. She was completely demoralised. You see, these Govts just don't want to know. Easier to ignore the problem and point the finger elsewhere than admit their own culpability. This came from the highest levels of Govt. In some cases she was certain that the Govt Ministers and apparatchiks benefitted financially from their inaction.

This is the world we live in where politicians consider slavery, including sex slavery, as an acceptable inconvenience. I for one think that sex slavery should be punishable by long years of hard labour at the very least. Make the punishment act as a real deterrent and make the punishment relative to the crime. The difference is I see these girls (someone's daughter, sister, niece, grand-daugher, friend) as flesh and blood human beings. I feel their pain and feel shame for the behaviour of those who do such evil and bluddy awful things for money and sick self-gratification. Politicians and senior policemen see these girls as numbers. Statistics. Obstacles to achieving their tick box targets. To be swept under the carpet.

This is slavery, folks. Slavery. In the 21st century. On our doorstep. The authorities make gestures and say the right things.....but it is a growing 'industry'. It is easy to stop. You have to ask why the powers are reluctant to do so. Perhaps slavery is less of an evil than offending certain minority groups? Either I am mad or the world has gone insane. All I know is that I am not mad.

Peace.

[danielost]

Funnily enough I had a Canadian friend who worked for an international charity trying to force Eastern European Govts to taken action to protect their young girls from the sex slave trade. She was completely demoralised. You see, these Govts just don't want to know. Easier to ignore the problem and point the finger elsewhere than admit their own culpability. This came from the highest levels of Govt. In some cases she was certain that the Govt Ministers and apparatchiks benefitted financially from their inaction.

This is the world we live in where politicians consider slavery, including sex slavery, as an acceptable inconvenience. I for one think that sex slavery should be punishable by long years of hard labour at the very least. Make the punishment act as a real deterrent and make the punishment relative to the crime. The difference is I see these girls (someone's daughter, sister, niece, grand-daugher, friend) as flesh and blood human beings. I feel their pain and feel shame for the behaviour of those who do such evil and bluddy awful things for money and sick self-gratification. Politicians and senior policemen see these girls as numbers. Statistics. Obstacles to achieving their tick box targets. To be swept under the carpet.

This is slavery, folks. Slavery. In the 21st century. On our doorstep. The authorities make gestures and say the right things.....but it is a growing 'industry'. It is easy to stop. You have to ask why the powers are reluctant to do so. Perhaps slavery is less of an evil than offending certain minority groups? Either I am mad or the world has gone insane. All I know is that I am not mad.

Peace.

as long as we have a whole culture that teach their women that they are less than 2nd class citizens we will never get rid of this type of slavery.

[Mandrake]

as long as we have a whole culture that teach their women that they are less than 2nd class citizens we will never get rid of this type of slavery.

Can't talk about that. Its a cultural thing again...

[danielost]

Can't talk about that. Its a cultural thing again...

we've come full circle havent we.

[Flashbangwollap]

we've come full circle havent we.

So it's government spin then (spin = circle, rotate, restart, return.) Hummm very clever aren't they.

Thing is who do you trust to put into power next time?

[danielost]

So it's government spin then (spin = circle, rotate, restart, return.) Hummm very clever aren't they.

Thing is who do you trust to put into power next time?

the one not looking for the power.