Liberalism is the single greatest threat...

[Nova Terra]

Liberalism is the single greatest threat we have ever faced. The liberals are trying to ruin America and turn America into a left-wing country. We spent 50 years fighting communism, and now we're on the verge of turning towards the very thing we have sworn to fight against. In American politics there are primarily two types of people, liberals and normal people. While the liberals do want to make America like the People's Republic of China, North Korea, and Cuba, they're primary "inspiration" comes from America's "most favored ally," the United Kingdom. Liberals believe that the government should govern every aspect of your life.

The liberals are the people who are trying to ban all guns, lower the quality of colleges and universities, lower the quality of health care, institute total government control over the economy, institute school uniforms for public high schools, legalize all illegal drugs, ban prostitution, let people in prison vote, form Sharia Courts that enforce Sharia Law, negotiate with terrorists and provide them with whatever they demand, not defend ourselves if attacked, and countless other bull Red philosophies. Remember, we are free so long as we don't submit to extreme radical philosophies such as liberalism, theocracy, and fascism.

[Ignus Fatuus]

Liberalism is the single greatest threat we have ever faced. The liberals are trying to ruin America and turn America into a left-wing country. We spent 50 years fighting communism, and now we're on the verge of turning towards the very thing we have sworn to fight against. In American politics there are primarily two types of people, liberals and normal people. While the liberals do want to make America like the People's Republic of China, North Korea, and Cuba, they're primary "inspiration" comes from America's "most favored ally," the United Kingdom. Liberals believe that the government should govern every aspect of your life.

The liberals are the people who are trying to ban all guns, lower the quality of colleges and universities, lower the quality of health care, institute total government control over the economy, institute school uniforms for public high schools, legalize all illegal drugs, ban prostitution, let people in prison vote, form Sharia Courts that enforce Sharia Law, negotiate with terrorists and provide them with whatever they demand, not defend ourselves if attacked, and countless other bull Red philosophies. Remember, we are free so long as we don't submit to extreme radical philosophies such as liberalism, theocracy, and fascism.

Right on a few things ... wrong on so many. You, I, we have to stop and differ liberals such as I a moderate democrat and the extreme fringe of liberalism who have hijacked the term liberal. Not all liberals are out for the guns. Not all liberals want to shove health care in our faces, legalize drugs etc. The far left 10 percent of liberals as with the far right 10 percent conservatives have taken over the country. The rest of us 80 percent who remain silent for the most part are to blaim.

Liberalism as well as conservativism have very fine qualities. It is just a problem of working together. Your last sentence states it all with the word "extreme radical philosophies". Please note that it is not liberalism that is the root of our problems, nor conservatism. It is extremism. What say you???

[Bracket]

Had a bad run in with a liberal?

[Guest]

Liberalism is the single greatest threat we have ever faced. The liberals are trying to ruin America and turn America into a left-wing country. We spent 50 years fighting communism, and now we're on the verge of turning towards the very thing we have sworn to fight against. In American politics there are primarily two types of people, liberals and normal people. While the liberals do want to make America like the People's Republic of China, North Korea, and Cuba, they're primary "inspiration" comes from America's "most favored ally," the United Kingdom. Liberals believe that the government should govern every aspect of your life.

The liberals are the people who are trying to ban all guns, lower the quality of colleges and universities, lower the quality of health care, institute total government control over the economy, institute school uniforms for public high schools, legalize all illegal drugs, ban prostitution, let people in prison vote, form Sharia Courts that enforce Sharia Law, negotiate with terrorists and provide them with whatever they demand, not defend ourselves if attacked, and countless other bull Red philosophies. Remember, we are free so long as we don't submit to extreme radical philosophies such as liberalism, theocracy, and fascism.

So typically over the top, and lacking in balance and perspective. America's golden age was the "New deal period" through to the late sixties. Ever since then the Republicans have dominated and the country has been in steady decline. Market liberalisation has led to a decimation of domestic industry and a banking sector which has raped the real economy.

Grow up and get with the real world.

Br Cornelius

[JGirl]

Liberalism is the single greatest threat we have ever faced. The liberals are trying to ruin America and turn America into a left-wing country. We spent 50 years fighting communism, and now we're on the verge of turning towards the very thing we have sworn to fight against. In American politics there are primarily two types of people, liberals and normal people. While the liberals do want to make America like the People's Republic of China, North Korea, and Cuba, they're primary "inspiration" comes from America's "most favored ally," the United Kingdom. Liberals believe that the government should govern every aspect of your life.

The liberals are the people who are trying to ban all guns, lower the quality of colleges and universities, lower the quality of health care, institute total government control over the economy, institute school uniforms for public high schools, legalize all illegal drugs, ban prostitution, let people in prison vote, form Sharia Courts that enforce Sharia Law, negotiate with terrorists and provide them with whatever they demand, not defend ourselves if attacked, and countless other bull Red philosophies. Remember, we are free so long as we don't submit to extreme radical philosophies such as liberalism, theocracy, and fascism.

it doesn't matter who is in power in your country - you are not free, and will not ever be free until your government stops dumping so much money on war, and the so called fight against terrorism.

your people are homeless, hungry, unemployed, bankrupt, and yet your government dumps more money, and more human lives into their war agenda. this is freedom? yeah, if you say so.

[supervike]

A perfect thread for pundits to choose their black or white sides.

Reality is totally different, perhaps, someday, you can enjoy it.

[questionmark]

Right, liberalism was the biggest thread to

-King George, the Americans rebelled because they were tired of being oppressed

-Louis XVI, cause the people were tired of being oppressed

...

...

-Husnei Mubarak, because the people were tired of being oppressed.

You know, I start having the feeling that you are working for the weapons industry trying to whip up some business.

[supervike]

Right, liberalism was the biggest thread to

-King George, the Americans rebelled because they were tired of being oppressed

-Louis XVI, cause the people were tired of being oppressed

...

...

-Husnei Mubarak, because the people were tired of being oppressed.

You know, I start having the feeling that you are working for the weapons industry trying to whip up some business.

Also, that pesky Rebel Alliance when the Galactic Empire had them in the stranglehold...But that was a long long time ago....

[Ignus Fatuus]

So typically over the top, and lacking in balance and perspective. America's golden age was the "New deal period" through to the late sixties. Ever since then the Republicans have dominated and the country has been in steady decline. Market liberalisation has led to a decimation of domestic industry and a banking sector which has raped the real economy.

Grow up and get with the real world.

Br Cornelius

Why give in and answer by attacking the other side??? Republicans have dominated the majority of decades. There have been good times and bad times.

What golden age??? No such thing. If I am not mistaken the late 60's was dealing with houses being burnt, bras being burnt cars being torched and our armed forces men and women being spit on coming back from a war that most were forced into fighting.

For many we have been on a steady decline since 9/11. Neither side is to blame ... yet both sides are to blame. The pointing of fingers from left to right, right to left is the problem. Compromise is the only answer. Yet it seems that we will never again have this. "THIS" is the greatest threat to us all. As with the state motto of Kentucky. United we stand divided we fall ... and we have been falling and falling and will continue to fall until we even halfway unite.

It is not too late ... we just need real leaders. Not sheep herders.

[Bracket]

A perfect thread for pundits to choose their black or white sides.

Reality is totally different, perhaps, someday, you can enjoy it.

I agree.

[supervike]

Neither side is to blame ... yet both sides are to blame. The pointing of fingers from left to right, right to left is the problem. Compromise is the only answer. Yet it seems that we will never again have this. "THIS" is the greatest threat to us all. As with the state motto of Kentucky. United we stand divided we fall ... and we have been falling and falling and will continue to fall until we even halfway unite.

It is not too late ... we just need real leaders. Not sheep herders.

Well said Mr Fatuus!

[Michelle]

it doesn't matter who is in power in your country - you are not free, and will not ever be free until your government stops dumping so much money on war, and the so called fight against terrorism.

your people are homeless, hungry, unemployed, bankrupt, and yet your government dumps more money, and more human lives into their war agenda. this is freedom? yeah, if you say so.

I think that you will find the US and Canada are very similar in unemployment.

For several decades Canada typically had reported its unemployment rate as somewhat higher than the US rate. For example, in June 2008 the reported unemployment in the US was 5.5 percent and 6.1% in Canada. However, a closer examination reveals that the two countries measure the unemployment rate differently. Craig Riddell, a University of British Columbia economist, found that a 0.9% difference was caused by the differing measurement systems.[20] Statistics Canada has also acknowledges this, and it now publishes a second unemployment rate using the same methodology as the Americans. Using the American methodology, the June 2008 Canadian unemployment rate was 5.3%, which was 0.2% lower than the American rate.[21]

Prior to the identification of the difference in methodologies, some politicians claimed that higher income taxes, restrictive labour laws, unions, universal healthcare, and greater unemployment benefits in Canada were causing a higher actual unemployment rate. However, when unemployment insurance and welfare were sharply cut in many parts of Canada during the 1990s there was little gain in employment relative to the Americans. Others attempted to explain the reported difference in terms of the large number of seasonal workers in trades such as fishing and logging who are unemployed for a portion of the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies

Fewer people applied for government unemployment benefits in both Canada and the U.S., separate reports showed Thursday.

Hundreds of people wait in line to get into a job fair in California. The most recent data available shows claims for jobless benefits declining in Canada and the U.S. (Paul Sakuma/Associated Press)

Statistics Canada said 673,700 people received regular employment insurance benefits in November, down 5,700, or 0.8 per cent, from October.

Before receiving EI, one must submit a claim, and there was a similar trend on that front — there were 248,100 initial and renewal claims received in November, a decline of 8,400, or 3.3 per cent, compared with October.

Canada's unemployment rate sat at 7.6 per cent in December, declining steadily after peaking at 8.7 per cent in August 2009. Over the last 40 years, the unemployment rate has averaged 7.7 per cent in Canada.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2011/01/20/jobless-claims-unemployment.html#ixzz1EFyLKLlK

Homelessnes, hungry and bankrupt are soon to follow in either country.

[Ignus Fatuus]

it doesn't matter who is in power in your country - you are not free, and will not ever be free until your government stops dumping so much money on war, and the so called fight against terrorism.

your people are homeless, hungry, unemployed, bankrupt, and yet your government dumps more money, and more human lives into their war agenda. this is freedom? yeah, if you say so.

I agree ... the US needs to start working for "US" rather than saving the world. Were not even able to take care of ourselves at the moment. The money needs to stay here. I do have an open heart for the suffering in the world, yet many here in this country are suffering ... so as selfish as it sounds. We need to heal our wounds. Yet the fact is we are infecting more and more the wounds we have already.

On purpose??? I hope not, yet it seems likely. On the terrorism threat however the terrorists have stated over and over that they will not stop until we bow to them or are wiped off the map of the world. Seems like a lose, lose situation. Or we could simply put our money here, bound our borders and protect our people. For all the money we spend overseas ... it does not seem like a hard thing to do. Unless the agenda is to control the world. IS IT???

[Michelle]

Why give in and answer by attacking the other side??? Republicans have dominated the majority of decades. There have been good times and bad times.

What golden age??? No such thing. If I am not mistaken the late 60's was dealing with houses being burnt, bras being burnt cars being torched and our armed forces men and women being spit on coming back from a war that most were forced into fighting.

For many we have been on a steady decline since 9/11. Neither side is to blame ... yet both sides are to blame. The pointing of fingers from left to right, right to left is the problem. Compromise is the only answer. Yet it seems that we will never again have this. "THIS" is the greatest threat to us all. As with the state motto of Kentucky. United we stand divided we fall ... and we have been falling and falling and will continue to fall until we even halfway unite.

It is not too late ... we just need real leaders. Not sheep herders.

Right on, Fatty...

[Guest]

Why give in and answer by attacking the other side??? Republicans have dominated the majority of decades. There have been good times and bad times.

What golden age??? No such thing. If I am not mistaken the late 60's was dealing with houses being burnt, bras being burnt cars being torched and our armed forces men and women being spit on coming back from a war that most were forced into fighting.

For many we have been on a steady decline since 9/11. Neither side is to blame ... yet both sides are to blame. The pointing of fingers from left to right, right to left is the problem. Compromise is the only answer. Yet it seems that we will never again have this. "THIS" is the greatest threat to us all. As with the state motto of Kentucky. United we stand divided we fall ... and we have been falling and falling and will continue to fall until we even halfway unite.

It is not too late ... we just need real leaders. Not sheep herders.

I am referring to the "baby boomer" years which were a product of the growth of the middle class brought about by the new deal.

Since then the middle class has been under steady attack and wealth has accumulated in an ever smaller number of hands. This coincides perfectly with the rise of Milton Freidmans Neo-Liberal economics coming to prominance. Since both parties have followed the same NeoLiberal economic agenda, it is not about poltics, but it is about conservative ethics vs liberal ethics.

Br Cornelius

[Ignus Fatuus]

Well said Mr Fatuus!

Thanks .. any person who sees the problem being both sides of the isle is quite OK with me!!! Time for the "silent" majority to open our mouths,

[Ignus Fatuus]

I am referring to the "baby boomer" years which were a product of the growth of the middle class brought about by the new deal.

Since then the middle class has been under steady attack and wealth has accumulated in an ever smaller number of hands. This coincides perfectly with the rise of Milton Freidmans Neo-Liberal economics coming to prominance. Since both parties have followed the same NeoLiberal economic agenda, it is not about poltics, but it is about conservative ethics vs liberal ethics.

Br Cornelius

Sorry if it seemed that I was attacking you. I have seen so many of your viewpoints which I applauded. I do agree that the growth of the middle class was a very big deal in the strenghning of the US. Is it not "funny" how both parties have allowed the same NeoLiberal economic agenda??? It is like they are on the same page ... us vs. them.

For me at least there are much more of "us" than them. They however seem to have us each and everyone on a different page of the book of life.

Middle class is such a key ... and that key is getting bent. Soon it will not be able to fit the lock. At that point how will we be able to get out of our cage???

As my motto goes ... Democrats and Republicans and Satan oh my. I proved "small wise" with a topic not long ago that so many of us here are so wound up in our differences. That topic showed that our differences are less than many expected. The viewpoints between liberals and conservatives are finite and can be narrowed down to 12 to 20 different viewpoints. We all are so much alike ... just divided. Such a shame!!!

[JGirl]

I think that you will find the US and Canada are very similar in unemployment.

For several decades Canada typically had reported its unemployment rate as somewhat higher than the US rate. For example, in June 2008 the reported unemployment in the US was 5.5 percent and 6.1% in Canada. However, a closer examination reveals that the two countries measure the unemployment rate differently. Craig Riddell, a University of British Columbia economist, found that a 0.9% difference was caused by the differing measurement systems.[20] Statistics Canada has also acknowledges this, and it now publishes a second unemployment rate using the same methodology as the Americans. Using the American methodology, the June 2008 Canadian unemployment rate was 5.3%, which was 0.2% lower than the American rate.[21]

Prior to the identification of the difference in methodologies, some politicians claimed that higher income taxes, restrictive labour laws, unions, universal healthcare, and greater unemployment benefits in Canada were causing a higher actual unemployment rate. However, when unemployment insurance and welfare were sharply cut in many parts of Canada during the 1990s there was little gain in employment relative to the Americans. Others attempted to explain the reported difference in terms of the large number of seasonal workers in trades such as fishing and logging who are unemployed for a portion of the year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_economies

Fewer people applied for government unemployment benefits in both Canada and the U.S., separate reports showed Thursday.

Hundreds of people wait in line to get into a job fair in California. The most recent data available shows claims for jobless benefits declining in Canada and the U.S. (Paul Sakuma/Associated Press)

Statistics Canada said 673,700 people received regular employment insurance benefits in November, down 5,700, or 0.8 per cent, from October.

Before receiving EI, one must submit a claim, and there was a similar trend on that front — there were 248,100 initial and renewal claims received in November, a decline of 8,400, or 3.3 per cent, compared with October.

Canada's unemployment rate sat at 7.6 per cent in December, declining steadily after peaking at 8.7 per cent in August 2009. Over the last 40 years, the unemployment rate has averaged 7.7 per cent in Canada.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2011/01/20/jobless-claims-unemployment.html#ixzz1EFyLKLlK

Homelessnes, hungry and bankrupt are soon to follow in either country.

you don't hear canadians wailing about it every time you turn around. the news is not filled with horror stories of people losing everything here in this country as it is depicted in the usa.

btw thank you for taking so much time to point all those statistics out.

[danielost]

So typically over the top, and lacking in balance and perspective. America's golden age was the "New deal period" through to the late sixties. Ever since then the Republicans have dominated and the country has been in steady decline. Market liberalisation has led to a decimation of domestic industry and a banking sector which has raped the real economy.

Grow up and get with the real world.

Br Cornelius

so says a brit.

[Michelle]

you don't hear canadians wailing about it every time you turn around. the news is not filled with horror stories of people losing everything here in this country as it is depicted in the usa.

btw thank you for taking so much time to point all those statistics out.

Why do people think it takes so much time to google something?

US and Canada unemployment statistics....

http://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=US+and+Canada+unemployment+statistics&s_it=spelling&v_t=keyword_rollover

You simply peaked my curiosity.

I guess your media paints a rosey picture of Canada along with the hell hole we live in in the US.

I will take the biased attitude into account in the future though. "shrug"

Edited February 18, 2011 by Michelle

[ErikMartin]

It's very unfortunate that the term "liberalism" has been twisted into the opposite of what it used to mean. The true term that describes the evil we're facing is "collectivism," or "statism," and its greatest weapon is the moral relativism and political correctness that muddles all philosophical and political discourse.

Incidentally, here's a pretty new

. It's a short and entertaining introduction to some basic concepts. Edited February 18, 2011 by ErikMartin

[Cradle of Fish]

Gotta love the impotent, nonsensical rage of know-it-all teenagers.

[Corp]

So is this just one big troll thread?

[Guest]

So is this just one big troll thread?

The opener seems to be an expert, he had hi9s Muslim bashing thread closed for guess what - racism

Br Cornelius

[JGirl]

Why do people think it takes so much time to google something?

US and Canada unemployment statistics....

http://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=US+and+Canada+unemployment+statistics&s_it=spelling&v_t=keyword_rollover

You simply peaked my curiosity.

I guess your media paints a rosey picture of Canada along with the hell hole we live in in the US.

I will take the biased attitude into account in the future though. "shrug"

you are off base with your assumptions.

canada may have similar unemployment rates, but i didn't infer that there isn't unemployment in my country.

i'm suggesting it's not a devastation as it is in the usa.

we are not losing our homes here every day, we are not having our jobs taken from under us by companies closing down or moving out of country.

in any case, the media is the media.