Knight Of Shadows Posted August 1, 2011 #276 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Eliar the festival that happened in your city was used as cover to make larger military operations against others cities .. whenever there's festival of support for him .. the death number rises like hell it's shameful people know they're being used to kill others and still they went out .. how stupid can person get and meryt you're right but too bad many still support .. even killing i have no idea how they think .. but they do support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meryt-tetisheri Posted August 1, 2011 #277 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Eliar the festival that happened in your city was used as cover to make larger military operations against others cities .. whenever there's festival of support for him .. the death number rises like hell it's shameful people know they're being used to kill others and still they went out .. how stupid can person get and meryt you're right but too bad many still support .. even killing i have no idea how they think .. but they do support The fact that festivals and army attacks coincide means that these rallies are organized by the regime, that's a statement of the obvious, sorry for that! In Egypt many business men who were/are part in the regime financed such festivals & rallies. Some took matters in their hand and attacked demonstrators themselves. People who have vested interest in the regime will put up a resistance. It used to be (in Egypt) that workers were given direct orders to attend rallies and were bused to the site, whether by enticement or coercion.Prisons were emptied by the police and criminals were set loose on the demonstrators, like the famous camel attack on Tahrir. Many people will also be frightened by the change, the bombing, the chaos, and prefer the security of "the devil you know" to an uncertain future; especially when sectarian attacks or conflicts occur. The role played by 'Islamists', like Egypt's MB and Salafi movement, is causing alot of anxiety. I guess some people in Syria might be watching what's happeningin Egypt with trepidation. These people who support the regime could be afraid, not neccessarily stupid. The economic chaos also adds to their fear. There are also those who are referred to in Egypt as the "Sofa Party" ( Hezb el Kanaba) who prefer to sit on their hands and watch until the dust settles. The pitfalls which I referred to before are the dangers of fragmenting the 'revolutionaries' into factions, failure to keep a united front, missing the chance to addrress the fears of the 'kanaba' people, allowing groups to jump on the bandwagon to force their own agenda. There will be attempts to turn Syrians against each other, Muslims against Christians,Sunnis against Alawis, Islamists against secularists. Petrodollars are playing a very dirty role in Egypt I sincerely hope that Syrians avoid the mistakes of Egypt & Tunisia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted August 1, 2011 #278 Share Posted August 1, 2011 as far as it goes for bussiness men it's the same in here as egypt especially in Eliar's city he exactly know how bussiness men in aleppo paying from their personal money to " shabeha " mercineries to attack and kill protestors they're as you just mentioned .. personal gangs of people in high power , criminals were let loose by the (general) amnesty which was so general that it didn't include activists and protestors there was attempts by the current gov to start sectarianism situation by sending some of their merceneries to burn a church but the protestors put out that fire and they keep turn down accuses of sectarianism by their chanting and the signs they carry and the name of friday protests as far as i know there couldn't be really a civil war say like egypt based on religion and etc etc the main reason in my opinion is that the majority of syria is sunnis and i mean the huge majority like over 70% so i guess any of the minorities won't actually get dragged into civil war and such but i couldn't help but to notice a certain hatred for the alawis by most people the reason gets back to the way they acted after one of them came to power of course not all of them hold responsbiliy for that but there's major acting up .. especially online in our chats websites alot of christians and alawis provoking muslims swearing and such and you'll have to notice these people are the most who benfited from the current gov while we " muslims " suffered the most so they acting up reliazing that that end is near .. and they stupidly think that we will crush them if it falls .. they don't reliaze that the times has changed and we're moving toward a peaceful future without special treatment based on religion or race and what so ever but they're afraid .. and the way the express that makes it worse .. but as far as i saw .. there's no response from muslims for such harsh acts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainpoint Posted August 1, 2011 #279 Share Posted August 1, 2011 This is sickening whats happening in syria. This guy Assad has turned out to be really evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted August 2, 2011 #280 Share Posted August 2, 2011 This is sickening whats happening in syria. This guy Assad has turned out to be really evil. Benign dictators are like vegetarian sharks, they're very scarce, Mainpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armegon Posted August 4, 2011 #281 Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) KoS, since you are Syrian, I want to ask you, which one is lying western media or Esad government? Till now I have heard from Syrian friends and also some Syrian origin Turkish friends who all say the same which is briefly “do not believe the lies of western media or other bloodsucker media such as Al Jazera, Al Arabia etc”. I have been told all the mess is being created by these so-called reformers which is a mix group including Al Qaida as well who are being fed by foreign powers like KSA-USA and TR, have big affect on Syria, roughly blamed by them. Last horrible atrocity news came from Hama that violently murdered 7 people thrown to the Orontes(Asi) river, firstly Syrian state television claimed these 7 people were the officials from police department abducted and murdered violently by opponents and after then reformers condemned the violent murders and blamed the Esad’s military to be responsible of these atrocities. Lots info pollution about Syria on media, one side is lying but who? Edited August 4, 2011 by armegon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 4, 2011 #282 Share Posted August 4, 2011 KoS, since you are Syrian, I want to ask you, which one is lying western media or Esad government? Till now I have heard from Syrian friends and also some Syrian origin Turkish friends who all say the same which is briefly “do not believe the lies of western media or other bloodsucker media such as Al Jazera, Al Arabia etc”. I have been told all the mess is being created by these so-called reformers which is a mix group including Al Qaida as well who are being fed by foreign powers like KSA-USA and TR, have big affect on Syria, roughly blamed by them. Last horrible atrocity news came from Hama that violently murdered 7 people thrown to the Orontes(Asi) river, firstly Syrian state television claimed these 7 people were the officials from police department abducted and murdered violently by opponents and after then reformers condemned the violent murders and blamed the Esad’s military to be responsible of these atrocities. Lots info pollution about Syria on media, one side is lying but who? Well KOS did support the regime for a long time, but he went out of the town once and saw the problems the Syrian government were doing. He did too blamed the Western media maybe a little but before it was alot. Now he sick of many people dieing from troops. I don't think every one of those citizens protesting are linked with Al-Qaida or friends with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armegon Posted August 4, 2011 #283 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Well KOS did support the regime for a long time, but he went out of the town once and saw the problems the Syrian government were doing. He did too blamed the Western media maybe a little but before it was alot. Now he sick of many people dieing from troops. I don't think every one of those citizens protesting are linked with Al-Qaida or friends with them. Dear erix, My friends are also living in Syria or either having relatives in Syria. The one just today I talked in the morning said the events in Hama took place when the resistants set fire the police station, damaged the properties of public and private, blocked the city entrance and opened fire from the top of buildings after terrorizing the locals. So it seems there are some people with assault rifles around... Here is one video shared on facebook by a Turkish guy; http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=264801420203116&comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 4, 2011 #284 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ive seen that on the news but it still dosn't explain why government forces are shooting at anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armegon Posted August 4, 2011 #285 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ive seen that on the news but it still dosn't explain why government forces are shooting at anyone. Erix, I was in Antakya TR which located @ Turkey-Syria border and which lots of Syrian origin Turkish people living, there were rumours that resistants using simcards of Turkish GSM companies, people were talking about; with given words to resistants 120 Syrian police officers were killed. So far I know Turkish Intelligence has intense activities in Syria. At the same period US ambassador of Turkey visited Gaziantep/TR which is unusual, I do not think he went there to eat baklava... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meryt-tetisheri Posted August 4, 2011 #286 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Dear erix, My friends are also living in Syria or either having relatives in Syria. The one just today I talked in the morning said the events in Hama took place when the resistants set fire the police station, damaged the properties of public and private, blocked the city entrance and opened fire from the top of buildings after terrorizing the locals. So it seems there are some people with assault rifles around... Here is one video shared on facebook by a Turkish guy; http://www.facebook....203116 "Some people with assault rifles", so in order to protect private & public property, and make the 'locals' feel safe, the Syrian government rolls in tanks to shell civilian suburbs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted August 5, 2011 #287 Share Posted August 5, 2011 that's just the bull of the offical media lies you might add it to their countless lies : a 13 years old boy tortured and shot and killed .. officials : he was trying to rape the daughters of army generals and that video of dumping bodies into the river .. wasn't done in the town the offical said it was done in idleb .. by the security and mercenries that belong to the gov am sick of lies and i don't know where to start or stop with the offical lies like the lie of 500.000 protestors were forced to protest by armed gangs what logic brain can accept that around 1000 armed person can " Force " 500.000 protestors to protests .. i mean what the hell ! fact is there ain't no armed gang ..there ain't nothing there's just innocent people being butchered there's just army killing unarmed protestors .. who's sin was only to ask for their just rights any person with any shrouded remanants of conciousness will stop defending murderers of innocents and women and many children what's going on now is an " annihilation " of a whole people and the whole world is silence .. especially arabs they're watching as our arabic history being erased by murderers defending the gov is no longer about being nationalist or love for the best for our country ... those who defend the gov now need to reliaze it's a human stand they're killing people by simply defending such acts if the offical media says it's day time .. and it is day time .. they're lying it's this much how they lie .. and more the thing is we're not afraid anymore .. not from arrests or monitoring internet not even from death .. if we die so be it for each innocent get killed on the hands of thoese murderers 1000 arise so it's eiather death or freedom .. there's no middle ground no more fear .. no more silence i stand by the people and i regret the time i wasted defending this criminal gov like many i was fooled by their fake pretending but when the killing started it's all clear all my hope goes to hama people now they're being butchered litarly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted August 5, 2011 #288 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) that's just the bull of the offical media lies you might add it to their countless lies : a 13 years old boy tortured and shot and killed .. officials : he was trying to rape the daughters of army generals and that video of dumping bodies into the river .. wasn't done in the town the offical said it was done in idleb .. by the security and mercenries that belong to the gov am sick of lies and i don't know where to start or stop with the offical lies like the lie of 500.000 protestors were forced to protest by armed gangs what logic brain can accept that around 1000 armed person can " Force " 500.000 protestors to protests .. i mean what the hell ! fact is there ain't no armed gang ..there ain't nothing there's just innocent people being butchered there's just army killing unarmed protestors .. who's sin was only to ask for their just rights any person with any shrouded remanants of conciousness will stop defending murderers of innocents and women and many children what's going on now is an " annihilation " of a whole people and the whole world is silence .. especially arabs they're watching as our arabic history being erased by murderers defending the gov is no longer about being nationalist or love for the best for our country ... those who defend the gov now need to reliaze it's a human stand they're killing people by simply defending such acts if the offical media says it's day time .. and it is day time .. they're lying it's this much how they lie .. and more the thing is we're not afraid anymore .. not from arrests or monitoring internet not even from death .. if we die so be it for each innocent get killed on the hands of thoese murderers 1000 arise so it's eiather death or freedom .. there's no middle ground no more fear .. no more silence i stand by the people and i regret the time i wasted defending this criminal gov like many i was fooled by their fake pretending but when the killing started it's all clear all my hope goes to hama people now they're being butchered litarly Dictatorships are like parasites. Initially they entrench themselves into their host body. Then they manipulate, exploit, appropriate and take power by forcing the host to accept it and live off its environment. As the host weakens, the parasite becomes stronger and more powerful. Unfortunately as it seems, this parasite is entrenched well and isn't going down without a fight. You guys will need a lot of strength, commitment and unity before you manage to eradicate this leech from your system. Good luck. Edited August 5, 2011 by BlackRedLittleDevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted August 8, 2011 Author #289 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted August 16, 2011 Author #290 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Syrian military fires on Latakia for fourth day http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14539416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted August 16, 2011 #291 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Seems the Syrian army is also shooting up Palestinian camps as well. Wonder how much outrage that will generate...betting not much. Also sounds like Turkey is getting more and more annoyed. Wonder if they'll actually try to step in and do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted August 17, 2011 #292 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Don't know but i will advise you that this link I will post contains a dead child. *Snip* WARNING! Edited August 19, 2011 by Karlis Deleted link = Breach of UM posting rule: 2a. Offensive material: Do not post anything that is excessively violent, sexually explicit, depicts images of death, gore or that is of an otherwise overly graphic nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted August 21, 2011 Author #293 Share Posted August 21, 2011 U.S. will call for Syrian leader to step down, officials say http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-18/politics/us.syria.call_1_syrian-president-bashar-al-assad-syrian-leader-state-hillary-clinton?_s=PM:POLITICS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted August 25, 2011 Author #294 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Syria unrest: Famed cartoonist Ali Ferzat 'beaten' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14665113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted August 27, 2011 Author #295 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Syrian security forces 'open fire on protesters' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14690497 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted September 2, 2011 Author #296 Share Posted September 2, 2011 EU steps up Syria sanctions with ban on oil imports http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14759416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted September 2, 2011 #297 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well that should hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted September 11, 2011 Author #298 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi says he has agreed with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on steps aimed at ending months of violence. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14869012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted September 16, 2011 Author #299 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Syria army defector Hussein Harmoush in TV 'confession' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14945690 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persia Posted September 20, 2011 Author #300 Share Posted September 20, 2011 U.S. Is Quietly Getting Ready for Syria Without Assad http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/world/americas/us-is-quietly-getting-ready-for-a-syria-without-an-assad.html?google_editors_picks=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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