Jewish Heretic Posted March 11, 2011 #1 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Just surpised there haven't been accusations against HAARP for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a vampire wears my boxers Posted March 11, 2011 #2 Share Posted March 11, 2011 it was Cobra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted March 11, 2011 #3 Share Posted March 11, 2011 HAARP targetting Japan only proves that the New World Order doesn't want us to discover robots that we can have sex with!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterman Posted March 11, 2011 #4 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Why not, it gets blamed for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted March 11, 2011 #5 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Why not, it gets blamed for everything else. Dang straight. S'why my knee's been popping this last month whenever bend to pick something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqgumby Posted March 11, 2011 #6 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Dang straight. S'why my knee's been popping this last month whenever bend to pick something up. I went to my doc for my bad back... He whispered in my ear, "Haarp..." and sent me home with a script for pain-killers and valium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousman Posted March 11, 2011 #7 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I couldn't restore a backup image to my computer last night. If that is not proof of HARRP's malevolence, I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukilaily Posted March 12, 2011 #8 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/03/japan-tsunami-caused-by-haarp.html Pretty cool information. I don't know what to say after seeing that site. You can't remove HAARP from the equation but you can't jump to conclusions. Also, a volcano erupted. Edited March 12, 2011 by ukilaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-WOLF-12227- Posted March 12, 2011 #9 Share Posted March 12, 2011 HAARP didn't do it, the super devil did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted March 12, 2011 #10 Share Posted March 12, 2011 http://www.atlantean...d-by-haarp.html Pretty cool information. I don't know what to say after seeing that site. You can't remove HAARP from the equation but you can't jump to conclusions. Yes, you can. If you have some basic knowledge about electromagnetism in general and HAARP specifically. 1) It doesn't have the energy to initiate an earthquake 2) It doesn't have the directivity to direct energy at a specific point due to the fluidity of the ionosphere 3) The electromagnetic radiation cannot penetrate very deep into water, thus it would have no chance of reaching the seabed where the quake occurred. So, yes, HAARP can easily be ruled out. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukilaily Posted March 12, 2011 #11 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Yes, you can. If you have some basic knowledge about electromagnetism in general and HAARP specifically. 1) It doesn't have the energy to initiate an earthquake 2) It doesn't have the directivity to direct energy at a specific point due to the fluidity of the ionosphere 3) The electromagnetic radiation cannot penetrate very deep into water, thus it would have no chance of reaching the seabed where the quake occurred. So, yes, HAARP can easily be ruled out. Cheers, Badeskov That rules out ELF waves too? This might just be too large a catastrophe for HAARP though, in the broad scope of it all. Edited March 12, 2011 by ukilaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted March 12, 2011 #12 Share Posted March 12, 2011 That rules out ELF waves too? This might just be too large a catastrophe for HAARP though, in the broad scope of it all. Essentially, yes. ELF can penetrate water rather deep down. In fact, it is used to contact submerged subs to get them to periscope depth for communications. However, two things with respect to ELF: 1) The HAARP antenna array is not geared for ELF. ELF antenna arrays are humongously large and HAARP is simply not capable of ELF transmissions 2) ELF radio waves would not be absorbed in a focused spot, but over a very large area. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fish Posted March 12, 2011 #13 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The HAARP antenna array is not geared for ELF. ELF antenna arrays are humongously large and HAARP is simply not capable of ELF transmissions I'll ring the fact bell on that one. "Can HAARP be used to generate ELF? Yes. However, the HAARP facility does not directly transmit signals in the ELF frequency range. Instead, ELF signals are generated in the ionosphere at an altitude of around 100 km. Frequencies ranging from below one Hz to about 20 kHz can be generated through this ionospheric interaction process." http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/perlfect/search/search.pl?q=elf&showurl=%2Ffaq.html http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/publications/2008-03.pdf http://wwwppd.nrl.navy.mil/whatsnew/haarp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted March 12, 2011 #14 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I wish you lot would stop harping on about haarp. Incidental... is my memory failing me, or wasn't Harp a brand of UK disinfectant ? (or possibly bleach). I beleive it was also a lager at one point ? (conceivably they where the same substance). meow purr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingswan Posted March 12, 2011 #15 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Incidental... is my memory failing me, or wasn't Harp a brand of UK disinfectant ? (or possibly bleach). Harpic? The "Clean round the bend" slogan seems appropriate in this context. Edited March 12, 2011 by flyingswan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fish Posted March 12, 2011 #16 Share Posted March 12, 2011 1) It doesn't have the energy to initiate an earthquake how much energy is required to initiate an earthquake? the natural frequency of the planet is in the same range as the ELF generated by HAARP, so what about resonance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godofcats Posted March 12, 2011 #17 Share Posted March 12, 2011 No you all got it wrong, you know the "evil Americans" are going to end up getting blamed no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabbath Posted March 12, 2011 #18 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) People who blame HAARP (utter bs) for this just aggravates me. Those who do, have respect neither for the victims, nor mother nature. Edited March 12, 2011 by Blacksabbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted March 12, 2011 #19 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I'll ring the fact bell on that one. "Can HAARP be used to generate ELF? Yes. However, the HAARP facility does not directly transmit signals in the ELF frequency range. Instead, ELF signals are generated in the ionosphere at an altitude of around 100 km. Frequencies ranging from below one Hz to about 20 kHz can be generated through this ionospheric interaction process." http://www.haarp.ala...url=%2Ffaq.html http://www-star.stan...ons/2008-03.pdf http://wwwppd.nrl.na...whatsnew/haarp/ Indeed, HAARP can generate ELF that way. However, the efficiency is exceedingly low, thus you get very, very little power out in the ELF range out of the ionosphere compared with what you launch from HAARP and you have no way of directing that energy anywhere. It is still a moot point. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted March 12, 2011 #20 Share Posted March 12, 2011 how much energy is required to initiate an earthquake? A lot! How much, who knows? the natural frequency of the planet is in the same range as the ELF generated by HAARP, so what about resonance? Resonance sounds intriguing, however, the problem is depositing the energy in the ELF radio waves at the right spot. Even assuming that HAARP had the ability focus energy in a given spot it would not be absorbed at said spot. The issue with ELF (and also the reason it is used to contact submerged subs) is that due to the very low frequency it can penetrate very deep. It can do that because at the low frequency only a very small fraction gets absorbed as it travels through water/rock. So you can't create a "hot spot" using ELF radio waves. Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obviousman Posted March 13, 2011 #21 Share Posted March 13, 2011 the natural frequency of the planet is in the same range as the ELF generated by HAARP, so what about resonance? Really? What is the natural frequency of "the planet"? Reference for your answer, if possible, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukilaily Posted March 13, 2011 #22 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I wish you lot would stop harping on about haarp. I don't know, knowing that technology nowadays makes this possible, and the technology isn't really in the best hands, why not question it? Assume your house burnt down. There were two people in the house. Why would you only question your son if your daughter was there too? It just doesn't make sense to remove a potential variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingswan Posted March 13, 2011 #23 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't know, knowing that technology nowadays makes this possible, and the technology isn't really in the best hands, why not question it? Assume your house burnt down. There were two people in the house. Why would you only question your son if your daughter was there too? It just doesn't make sense to remove a potential variable. But in that analogy, the "potential variable" is a distant relative who lives in another continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted March 13, 2011 #24 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I don't know, knowing that technology nowadays makes this possible, Really?! How do you figure that you know that?! Are you sure you don't mean that you believe that to be the case?! Because I happen to know otherwise. and the technology isn't really in the best hands, why not question it? And which hands do you think the technology is in?! Assume your house burnt down. There were two people in the house. Why would you only question your son if your daughter was there too? It just doesn't make sense to remove a potential variable. I am sorry, but I do not understand the meaning of this sentence at all. What variable is removed? Cheers, Badeskov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukilaily Posted March 14, 2011 #25 Share Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Really?! How do you figure that you know that?! Are you sure you don't mean that you believe that to be the case?! Because I happen to know otherwise. http://haarp.net/ And which hands do you think the technology is in?! http://haarp.net/ It's in the hands of a country who's killing civilians in Pakistan with robotic drones. In the hands of the people aiding the war in Afghanistan. A nation who's aiding a country commiting a genocide in Palestine, yet criticizes "murderous" dictators that they themselves put in power. I am sorry, but I do not understand the meaning of this sentence at all. What variable is removed? Maybe it was a horrible analogy, but I meant that it's in our best interest to question all possibilities. We live in outrageous times. Edited March 14, 2011 by ukilaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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