Karlis Posted March 29, 2011 #126 Share Posted March 29, 2011 This topic is extremely sensitive, both politically and emotionally. That however does not excuse the personal insults that have been posted. The only reason this topic is not being closed is because of the breaking news, happening now. That said, no more personal attacks by anyone will be tolerated. Post opinions, thoughts and news as events unfold, but keep posts civil. Karlis -- moderator team member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted March 29, 2011 #127 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Syrian Government just resigned. Link to Reuters. I just heard that on Fox News. It seems that some people don't get to get tied down by the Syrian President. Mom thinks that The Muslim Brotherhood is behind this whole mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted March 29, 2011 #128 Share Posted March 29, 2011 yes exactly as in Libya by Gaddafi ..Gun to their heads and worse if they refuse to become human shields ...Oh God how many times have we seen this & how many of those in the mix will yelp the opposite ??? The case of Syria is not comparable to that of Libya... least-ways not yet. Its truly stupid ..let the peoples voices be heard and goodbye Syria's despotic rule ..HELLO & welcome freedom Syria Be careful for what you wish for, based on limited and possibly flawed information. Remember, a lot of Westerners thought that getting rid of the Shah of Iran would facilitate 'freedom for the people'. Didn't work out too well for 'the people', did it ? meow purr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOMBIE Posted March 29, 2011 #129 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Remember, a lot of Westerners thought that getting rid of the Shah of Iran would facilitate 'freedom for the people'. Many Iranians thought that, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #130 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) word spread on syrian news that the syrian goverment will reveal phone calls made my Bander Bin Sultan i'll update when more information revealed beside few posters in some syrian nighborhoods were made encouraging people to protest strange with no time to the protest and the posters included some religious texts as response syrian goverment warn people about muslims extermists and those who's making kill of the situation investgations still going .. Edited March 30, 2011 by Knight Of Shadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdillinjah Posted March 30, 2011 #131 Share Posted March 30, 2011 word spread on syrian news that the syrian goverment will reveal phone calls made my Bander Bin Sultan i'll update when more information revealed beside few posters in some syrian nighborhoods were made encouraging people to protest strange with no time to the protest and the posters included some religious texts as response syrian goverment warn people about muslims extermists and those who's making kill of the situation investgations still going .. Of course they will when your Tyranny has had a state of emergency over 30 years ..Im so proud of Syrian's striving for peace and all I see from online sources and TV News reports is --->yr Government is an evil tyranny that kills freedom protesters and your Government lies worse than any liars recorded in history and Governmentally arranged supporters ..who were prompted to do at gun-point shall turn their backs soon as they know this Tyranny can be ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdillinjah Posted March 30, 2011 #132 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Many Iranians thought that, too! Same was thought in WW1 when the Kaiser was ousted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #133 Share Posted March 30, 2011 by the way i was at home when that march of support happened how come my family and i weren't dragged to the march ? how come no one i know was dragged you talk like you're here .. seriously learn about something from the people who's there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maca02 Posted March 30, 2011 #134 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12897223 Edited March 30, 2011 by maca02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #135 Share Posted March 30, 2011 bbc .. no comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #136 Share Posted March 30, 2011 the 29th of march syrians filled the streets to assure their support to the current preisdent Bashar Al Asaad and to assure the unity of syrians people who been going in last 10 days through attempts to create racial , ethnic , religious hostility president bashar found the requests of the people legimate as he will make his speech which sources reveal that his speech will be better than all expectations for the improvement of citizans life and freedom of speech and sources says that the people causing corruptions will be punished no matter their military rank or how famous they were , or how powerful they are but same time the president will express that syrian will make powerful payback to any attempts to destroy the syrian unity or threatening the safty of syrians ill leave you with the march of support which was called " march of wafaa " aka march of loyalty here's the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted March 30, 2011 #137 Share Posted March 30, 2011 bbc .. no comment What's wrong with the BBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maca02 Posted March 30, 2011 #138 Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) bbc .. no comment same story is on al-jazeera, unable to link, check it out KOS, suppose they are lying too also on Sana http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2011/03/29/339215.htm Edited March 30, 2011 by maca02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted March 30, 2011 #139 Share Posted March 30, 2011 The Syrian government will collapse giving itself breathing room to escape the clearly odd rebellion of many ME nations. In this time of social media and the way it can be used to unite or divide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplos Posted March 30, 2011 #140 Share Posted March 30, 2011 If, according to you KoS, the vast majority of Syrians support and love your president and government, and no one was protesting anything, why are they doing reforms and why has the entire government just resigned? Also, I'd like to ask you what you think would be bad about giving people a chance to choose another leader, or the same one, if they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted March 30, 2011 #141 Share Posted March 30, 2011 If, according to you KoS, the vast majority of Syrians support and love your president and government, and no one was protesting anything, why are they doing reforms and why has the entire government just resigned? Also, I'd like to ask you what you think would be bad about giving people a chance to choose another leader, or the same one, if they wish. I don't think he will be able to answer that honestly and I don't blame him. I think he would be in danger if he answered that question wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicTJ Posted March 30, 2011 #142 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I can put the "why" this happening to bed right now........... (and might I say that this entire thread has been thoroughly entertaining...) People aren't just "rising up" all of a sudden because they suddenly feel the need for Democracy. They're "rising up" because the "free stuff" that their governments had to give them to appease is all gone. Did you all think the global economic collapse was just a blip on the radar? It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that this was coming.....and it'll get even worse. Throw out your talk and nationality rhetoric. It DOES NOT matter what form government is in charge when people start to go hungry. It DOES NOT matter what colors are on the flag that you fly when people start to go hungry. The reason the people in Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, and Syria are uprising is because their governments (elected or otherwise) CAN NO LONGER PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH SERVICES......unless you've got the money to pay for them. Dekker, your message through this entire thread is skewed into thinking this whole thing is a "push for Democracy". It's not for system of government. It's not for rights. It's for the simple right to survive. KoS, your message through this entire thread is even MORE skewed because it's obvious that you're not one of the many who have had the basic necessities of life taken away. And I don't care WHAT media outlet you want to post up. I read numbers. And the numbers say that not only Syria....but 3/4 of the countries on the ENTIRE PLANET cannot support their populations. And by "support"...I'm talking about what it takes to survive. Food, water, shelter, and medicine. You say people aren't rising up in Syria? You're lying. People are rising up throughout the world because they simply don't have the ways and means to survive. It's even starting to happen in the United States, where I live. There's a breaking point coming. And...to be quite honest...I think I'll welcome it. Because the breaking point will be where people will realize that they can't depend on government, but instead begin to depend on themselves to help each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #143 Share Posted March 30, 2011 If, according to you KoS, the vast majority of Syrians support and love your president and government, and no one was protesting anything, why are they doing reforms and why has the entire government just resigned? Also, I'd like to ask you what you think would be bad about giving people a chance to choose another leader, or the same one, if they wish. hello .. you weren't listening to what am saying there was uprises but as the media would like to show it ! again .. if you wanna comment .. perhaps you should read the whole topic coz you asked if people have the right to have another leader of course they do ... but they want bashar .. haven't you seen the video or pics ? please be well informed before making me going into circles all over again and replying the same things k ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #144 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I don't think he will be able to answer that honestly and I don't blame him. I think he would be in danger if he answered that question wrong. i'd ask politly to stop making assumptions on my behalf you think you can do that ? i can answer for my self and say what " I Want " without getting in trouble am not interested in saying what " you want " again .. give your opinion " as your opinion " it'll be most welcome but if you wanna give your opinion as assumption on my behalf i'd say shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted March 30, 2011 #145 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I can put the "why" this happening to bed right now........... (and might I say that this entire thread has been thoroughly entertaining...) People aren't just "rising up" all of a sudden because they suddenly feel the need for Democracy. They're "rising up" because the "free stuff" that their governments had to give them to appease is all gone. Did you all think the global economic collapse was just a blip on the radar? It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that this was coming.....and it'll get even worse. Throw out your talk and nationality rhetoric. It DOES NOT matter what form government is in charge when people start to go hungry. It DOES NOT matter what colors are on the flag that you fly when people start to go hungry. The reason the people in Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, and Syria are uprising is because their governments (elected or otherwise) CAN NO LONGER PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH SERVICES......unless you've got the money to pay for them. Dekker, your message through this entire thread is skewed into thinking this whole thing is a "push for Democracy". It's not for system of government. It's not for rights. It's for the simple right to survive. KoS, your message through this entire thread is even MORE skewed because it's obvious that you're not one of the many who have had the basic necessities of life taken away. And I don't care WHAT media outlet you want to post up. I read numbers. And the numbers say that not only Syria....but 3/4 of the countries on the ENTIRE PLANET cannot support their populations. And by "support"...I'm talking about what it takes to survive. Food, water, shelter, and medicine. You say people aren't rising up in Syria? You're lying. People are rising up throughout the world because they simply don't have the ways and means to survive. It's even starting to happen in the United States, where I live. There's a breaking point coming. And...to be quite honest...I think I'll welcome it. Because the breaking point will be where people will realize that they can't depend on government, but instead begin to depend on themselves to help each other. To dumb it down a bit people are waking up from governments that hand feed big business or political partners all the while stealing food from our kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #146 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I can put the "why" this happening to bed right now........... (and might I say that this entire thread has been thoroughly entertaining...) People aren't just "rising up" all of a sudden because they suddenly feel the need for Democracy. They're "rising up" because the "free stuff" that their governments had to give them to appease is all gone. Did you all think the global economic collapse was just a blip on the radar? It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that this was coming.....and it'll get even worse. Throw out your talk and nationality rhetoric. It DOES NOT matter what form government is in charge when people start to go hungry. It DOES NOT matter what colors are on the flag that you fly when people start to go hungry. The reason the people in Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, and Syria are uprising is because their governments (elected or otherwise) CAN NO LONGER PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH SERVICES......unless you've got the money to pay for them. Dekker, your message through this entire thread is skewed into thinking this whole thing is a "push for Democracy". It's not for system of government. It's not for rights. It's for the simple right to survive. KoS, your message through this entire thread is even MORE skewed because it's obvious that you're not one of the many who have had the basic necessities of life taken away. And I don't care WHAT media outlet you want to post up. I read numbers. And the numbers say that not only Syria....but 3/4 of the countries on the ENTIRE PLANET cannot support their populations. And by "support"...I'm talking about what it takes to survive. Food, water, shelter, and medicine. You say people aren't rising up in Syria? You're lying. People are rising up throughout the world because they simply don't have the ways and means to survive. It's even starting to happen in the United States, where I live. There's a breaking point coming. And...to be quite honest...I think I'll welcome it. Because the breaking point will be where people will realize that they can't depend on government, but instead begin to depend on themselves to help each other. well can't deny you made few points which good yes food and living issues here kinda of bad which will be dealt with and alot of improvement will be made the question and the main topic . wheather syrians want those attempt of reforming and fixing things done by the president bashar or not .. and wheather they support him or not i have given evidence of pictures and videos of massive number of people doing marches all over syria to support our president by the way .. how come i always being accused of things by people whom disagree with my opinion ? first i was part of royal ruling family , then a goverment agent , after that part of baathits .. and now part of media keep your head up ... i don't agree with you but those my opinions as syrian .. you may disagree but don't get on of this stupid accusing game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicTJ Posted March 30, 2011 #147 Share Posted March 30, 2011 well can't deny you made few points which good yes food and living issues here kinda of bad which will be dealt with and alot of improvement will be made the question and the main topic . wheather syrians want those attempt of reforming and fixing things done by the president bashar or not .. and wheather they support him or not i have given evidence of pictures and videos of massive number of people doing marches all over syria to support our president by the way .. how come i always being accused of things by people whom disagree with my opinion ? first i was part of royal ruling family , then a goverment agent , after that part of baathits .. and now part of media keep your head up ... i don't agree with you but those my opinions as syrian .. you may disagree but don't get on of this stupid accusing game I'm not accusing you of anything, KoS. What I'm saying...and pointing out....is that you have it a lot better than the majority of your countrymen/women. You have internet access...obviously...but the vast majority of the people protesting in Syria do not. Do the majority of the protesters have access to food, water, and a home to call their own? I won't argue that there are demonstrations in support of Syrian leadership. I know there are. But by and large those people are still being taken care of. People don't stage an uprising on a whim...just because they don't like their current political leader. Look at history. People stage uprisings when their own well-being is finally at stake. Did you see what happened in Greece? Greece got a band-aid in the form of a bail-out....which is nothing more than more printed currency.....which will end up making things even worse. Syria? No bail-out. Who's going to do it? The Arab-League? Abdul-Aziz? He's got the most money. And it'll end up being worthless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted March 30, 2011 Author #148 Share Posted March 30, 2011 actually i don't wanna talk about my life but you make it sound like i have easy one i wish .. am using internet on dialup most of people use serve modem by mobile phone network which is way better than mine also there's times i worked 48 hours straight am not joking here i left that job after 4 months it was just hard and long time at least 12 hours in the very short days however am syrians and got many syrians friends we ask for better life yes we want better one but the different we want those demands though our current president we don't want another president we love our current one and we want changes to be made by him .. which will be now waiting for his speech as sources says the president won't contact people through recorded message he'll address people live in the people's council or assembly and also he'll disscuss changes and offer the plan of reform to the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dekker87 Posted March 30, 2011 #149 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I can put the "why" this happening to bed right now........... (and might I say that this entire thread has been thoroughly entertaining...) People aren't just "rising up" all of a sudden because they suddenly feel the need for Democracy. They're "rising up" because the "free stuff" that their governments had to give them to appease is all gone. Did you all think the global economic collapse was just a blip on the radar? It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that this was coming.....and it'll get even worse. Throw out your talk and nationality rhetoric. It DOES NOT matter what form government is in charge when people start to go hungry. It DOES NOT matter what colors are on the flag that you fly when people start to go hungry. The reason the people in Tunisia, Egypt, Lybia, and Syria are uprising is because their governments (elected or otherwise) CAN NO LONGER PROVIDE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH SERVICES......unless you've got the money to pay for them. Dekker, your message through this entire thread is skewed into thinking this whole thing is a "push for Democracy". It's not for system of government. It's not for rights. It's for the simple right to survive. KoS, your message through this entire thread is even MORE skewed because it's obvious that you're not one of the many who have had the basic necessities of life taken away. And I don't care WHAT media outlet you want to post up. I read numbers. And the numbers say that not only Syria....but 3/4 of the countries on the ENTIRE PLANET cannot support their populations. And by "support"...I'm talking about what it takes to survive. Food, water, shelter, and medicine. You say people aren't rising up in Syria? You're lying. People are rising up throughout the world because they simply don't have the ways and means to survive. It's even starting to happen in the United States, where I live. There's a breaking point coming. And...to be quite honest...I think I'll welcome it. Because the breaking point will be where people will realize that they can't depend on government, but instead begin to depend on themselves to help each other. spoken like a proud republican american! i don't disagree with that last statement tho. i do, however, take issue with your contention that this isn't for democracy...your point about services etc is valid yet this situation is exacerbated by the fact that the people have no representation within the executive and legislative arms of the government. that's why their are uprisings in non-democratic countries and not in democratic countries. i'd be interested to know how you would justify the arbitrary arrest and detention without trial of syrians under the state of emergency laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted March 30, 2011 #150 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Th Syrian president is expected to resign later today in a speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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