Corp Posted April 14, 2011 #276 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Well maybe if they gotten a "confession" they now know who to target and soon protesters will be able to march in peace. See how quickly that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted April 14, 2011 #277 Share Posted April 14, 2011 What an absolute farce. Seriously? State-run television somehow gets a terrorist group to admit that they are causing all the trouble? And you believe that? Of course he does. All Western media is biased. Can't you see that? Yes it is a complete farce, but it isn't likely he's going to listen to any of us now is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqgumby Posted April 15, 2011 #278 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Well based on recent news...western and otherwise...the crap is hitting the fan, and the Syrian people are apparently tired of having no right to a fair trial, or freedom of expression, etc etc. Shocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #279 Share Posted April 15, 2011 all though there is corruptions as you mentions egg which is really bad but it's been dealing with and many people in power eaither been fired or in investagations for stealing money , bribes , unfair treatment to people i mentioned above that syrians already had benfits from what happenend the president was oblivious to what's going on and the curroptions by the people around him and their false reports that changed HOWEVER you see the protestors weren't so peaceful some of them was the others had an agenda to start chaos using them as cover and why shouldn't i believe it .. you believe the crap quality movies of syrian security forces killing protestors without prove can i ask how much differnt is this from the false eyewitnesses reports or the media who broadcast news before they happens peaceful protesting is going on all the time with demands no one gets in the way but people who shoot protestors and video tape it posting in on news channel claiming it was security forces look at the victims reports in the syrian media syrian tv has exposed many of false eye witnesses reports and many of the so called protesting in areas which never happened like i said however am pretty tired of repeating my self all over again read the topic for more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #280 Share Posted April 15, 2011 corp yes we want to march and protest in peace but you need to get that peaceful protestors are being target by the terrorists groups to provoke people into thinking it was security forces to create more hatred and chaos in the situations these confessions of group within a whole network of them they're not the only group this mess wasn't made by 3 people they're more to come before things calm down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #281 Share Posted April 15, 2011 addonia news tv showing interviews with people all over syria most of the day streets , clubs , supposed protesting places , officials , exposing other media coverup and lies , all night and day long also showing people with demands who request end of corrptuions and other demands there's nothing better than live interviews tv if you wanna learn about something learn from the people who's there right now live tv interviewing with people in lattkia showing normal live people saying they're having normal life and the other media been broad casting about false events which was denied by mouth of the people who lives there on live tv nothing less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted April 15, 2011 #282 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Are these interviews all from the state run network or have they allowed international news agencies into the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #283 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) watch it for yor self and judge your self one interview can be faked .. two .. ten .. hundred ? but all of those ? in the streets every where look out for your self .. it's arabic tough luck but here goes nothing *Snip* rejoice EDIT: Link to Non-English video removed <LI>2g. Language: As this is an English speaking site we ask that our members post only in English. Mobile phone shorthand, fictional languages and "leetspeak" are disallowed. Edited April 15, 2011 by Karlis Link to Non-English video removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted April 15, 2011 #284 Share Posted April 15, 2011 If it's in Arabic it'd go over my head. Though my question come from your comments about how the world in view ignoring the truth, however the only source of this true is a group that has a vested interest in making everything seem calm. The quickly way the Syrian government can stop international claims that they're killing their own people is to allow reporters from across the world to come and see for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqgumby Posted April 15, 2011 #285 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Syria is a totalitarian dictatorship. The "government" controls everything. EVERYTHING. It's a country in which people can be arrested and imprisoned at the whim of someone with no cause, no trial, nothing. Remember, Iran has said it, Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, all of them before they were removed from power..."It's outside foreign agitators! My people LOVE me, I am a benevolent ruler. It's the west, or it's terrorists". LIES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #286 Share Posted April 15, 2011 different between ejypt and yemen and iraq is something sereprete them from syria syrian president got very high popluarity among his people which i showed through my post previous pages syria is different case you shall see with more time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eqgumby Posted April 15, 2011 #287 Share Posted April 15, 2011 different between ejypt and yemen and iraq is something sereprete them from syria syrian president got very high popluarity among his people which i showed through my post previous pages syria is different case you shall see with more time You keep saying that, and your ONLY proof so far is STATE run and controlled media, NO independent sources! NONE. Meanwhile, every Friday there is another protest, this time thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #288 Share Posted April 15, 2011 not really my prove was videos and pics of millions of supporters which you didn't bother to look my evidence was debunk of the reports you mentions my evidence was the debunk of the so called eye witnesses my evidence is being inside the action and nothing matches what the other media says " which you get your evidence from " seriously eaither look at facts from all angles or don't bother getting into discussions about it i don't have time to explain every thing for every one over and over it's getting boring for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted April 15, 2011 #289 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) To be fair Knight the pictures and videos of people supporting the government doesn't debunk the main issue that's being brought up, and that is the Syrian security forces are the ones who are killing anti-government protesters. Edited April 15, 2011 by Corp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealiar101 Posted April 15, 2011 #290 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Protesters hit Syrian streets as report describes torture. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/04/15/syria.protests/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted April 15, 2011 #291 Share Posted April 15, 2011 You know... I think it was KoS who suggested that Hezbollah had disappeared from Lebanon (the implication being that they had moved into Syria to help destabilise the existing regime, and to radicalise the protests.. by gunfire if necessary). OK.. with that in mind.. lets look at the cited report again. Thousands of demonstrators in Syrian cities hit the streets after Friday prayers in another week of anti-government rallies, angry but largely peaceful outpourings of protest against the Bashar al-Assad regime. The emphasis was mine, not CNN's. Note, however, that the protest occurred AFTER ISLAMIC PRAYERS. Not after a political meeting. Not as a result of a spontaneous gathering reaching critical mass. But after direction from the Imams . So we are entitled to ask.. who ARE these Imams, and what precisely where they preaching ? And why would a religious preacher incite their congregation to make a specific POLITICAL (e.g. secular) protest ? Incidentally... "Hezbollah" translates (approximately) as "Party of God", and its manifesto is dedicated to the formation of an Islamic society. (modelled on Iran). So, to return to the original point. This protest was presented by CNN as a generalised, secular, political protest against the Syrian government in general, and President Bashar al-Assad in particular, triggered by broad popular discontent. However, the timing (friday prayers) suggests a specific, sectarian origin with a hidden agenda, directed and focussed by a central group of Imams of unknown provenance. Why are the journalists NOT asking questions about precisely WHAT was preached.. by WHOM.. at Friday prayers ? All they need to do is ask that question of a few protesters. But they appear to have failed to follow even such basic journalistic procedures. Why ? Many people sneer at Knight of Shadows (myself included, sometimes), but lest ye forget, he virtually predicted this sort of thing, including the (seeming) manipulation (or acquiescence) of the "Western Media". Cat is now DEEPLY suspicious of the reporting from Syria. meow purr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted April 15, 2011 #292 Share Posted April 15, 2011 not really my prove was videos and pics of millions of supporters which you didn't bother to look We do. The problem is, you dismiss everything we put. my evidence was debunk of the reports you mentions my evidence was the debunk of the so called eye witnesses It hasn't debunked anything. Protests are still happening, and yet you still claim the President is immensely popular. Clearly, something doesn't add up. my evidence is being inside the action and nothing matches what the other media says " which you get your evidence from " seriously eaither look at facts from all angles or don't bother getting into discussions about it i don't have time to explain every thing for every one over and over it's getting boring for me What's getting boring for us is your constant hypocracy regarding news sources. On another thread, you claimed you didn't like having the government influence your views, and yet you continued to post sources and videos from state media. And in case you haven't figured it out yet, the state media is obviously going to be biased as well, since it will undoubtedly support the opinions and views of the regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 15, 2011 Author #293 Share Posted April 15, 2011 the reason i say am not influnced by the goverment is cause if the protestings where bigger or the majority of the people i'd simply join them but the minority would never rule i am with more freedom i am with more demands for better life i am with lifting the emergency law i am with " peaceful " protestors however i simply showed that the majority support the president and stop the crap michael syrian tv or not the massive numbers of supporters speak for it self in the videos and pics would you like me to post it for you again ? and corp what the hell you're talking about ? i don't recall i ever mentioned hezboallah to help syria or go to syria to help syria .. lool syria don't need anyone's help actually hezboallah is strong as it is " thanks " to syria i didn't post such thing perhaps you could direct me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted April 16, 2011 #294 Share Posted April 16, 2011 the reason i say am not influnced by the goverment is cause if the protestings where bigger or the majority of the people i'd simply join them but the minority would never rule i am with more freedom i am with more demands for better life i am with lifting the emergency law i am with " peaceful " protestors however i simply showed that the majority support the president and stop the crap michael syrian tv or not the massive numbers of supporters speak for it self in the videos and pics would you like me to post it for you again ? So, I'm assuming you ignored the last major protest in Damascus then. So, how can you support the protestors and yet say that the "majority" of Syrians (highly unlikely for a multitude of reasons) support their President? If they supported their President, there would be no protests in Syria. And besides, how come the Syrian government forbids western media yet expects us to believe their version of the story? You don't see both sides of the argument Knight, so you cannot sit there and tell people to do what you are incapable of doing yourself. If you're going to act like a complete idiot all the time, then perhaps you need some time off to sort yourself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 17, 2011 Author #295 Share Posted April 17, 2011 a postive reaction on the syrian streets after president Bashar word to the new formed goverment as the president addressed the new goverment litarly saying : that any citizian is better than any minister in this goverment and the goverment job is to look out for the interest of the citizians " not the other way around " in short lines the demands of the protestors are fully given and wrapped in time limits wheather emergency law , investagations for the death of civilians in various towns better daily life .. more and more ---------------------- breaking news : mean while " Sbeneh " town people interviews people litarly said : we don't want anything we want the army or security forces just to step in and stop these " igorant trouble makers " describing the protestors the comments were made after protestors started protesting and when people tried to calm them down they start shooting at people and break into shops and shooting randomly people more news to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 17, 2011 Author #296 Share Posted April 17, 2011 here's a full translated text with all the details of the president's speech to the new goverment http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2011/04/17/341923.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted April 18, 2011 #297 Share Posted April 18, 2011 and corp what the hell you're talking about ? i don't recall i ever mentioned hezboallah to help syria or go to syria to help syria .. lool syria don't need anyone's help actually hezboallah is strong as it is " thanks " to syria i didn't post such thing perhaps you could direct me ? Assuming this was meant for someone else since I've never mentioned Hezboallah in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted April 18, 2011 Author #298 Share Posted April 18, 2011 lol probably sorry i must have posted that sometimes late at night i apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted April 18, 2011 #299 Share Posted April 18, 2011 No worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted April 19, 2011 #300 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Syrian protests now spread to the central city of Homs: Link: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/4902900/Thousands-demand-overthrow-of-Assad-after-deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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