Knight Of Shadows Posted May 7, 2011 Author #401 Share Posted May 7, 2011 no no i didn't say i don't support the opposition in matter of fact i Did said that i no longer support the goverment acts on civilians and violence will never work but i merely state i refuse any form of western interfernce " Especially from USA " what i said is the me among many other syrians are having fears that when and if a new goverment formed from the oppositions they'll become puppets for the western influence which would put us syrians to shame forever which i explained reasons for such fears that usa financed " some " of those oppositions groups and what you said about lebanon example would be actually " logically " if it wasn't the usa we're talking about but looking back at the usa history on the matter the history does not favor the usa side given their delightful history usa has always been a country that lives off leeching off other countries so based on logic conclusion and history this is the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted May 7, 2011 #402 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Acutally before the Second World War the US didn't have much influence in world politics. It wasn't until the turn of the twentith century that they tried to actively build an empire. Really the history of the US is no different than any other empire or major nation in world history. Have the opposition groups given you any indication that they plan to massively change Syrian foreign policy? Other than taking much needed money from the one group that was offering it? Because it kind of sounds like scare tactics. Don't support the opposition groups, they'll turn you into western puppets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted May 9, 2011 Author #403 Share Posted May 9, 2011 is it not different ? does it make sense the the country fighting iran on every step for not having nuclear is the only country who ever used such country ? little common sense ? it's very much different and certinaly more colorful with red colors the oppositions which is still blank no main leader for them no one to speak on their behalf or such still it's unknown clearly what they exactly know although i feel they want their lost dignitiy and honor they lost through security forces treat to them as animals and for long being slaves to the goverment or goverment againts bully them you see for example a person's father going back home during a protests that father swept along arrested or tortured or shot the sons of that father are next to rise .. one of the sons .. the whole family rise to protests the family falls their friends rise on and on and violence will only make protests more and more that's been proved that's the main demands of their requests no more fear now they do not show hate for such ethnic group or religion etc etc they also don't show any desire for different foreign policy as matter of fact those foreign policies are the main reason many people are not protesting there was however on tv of some arabic new channels some hints and claim during calls calling for the usa to step in to help the people and stuff like that also there has been two " saudis " channels broadcasting syrian protests news for most of the day in weird way what i mean by weird is like encouraging way to make it look like it's ok to kill security forces or syrian army you know all about motivating materials also it's mixed with a strict islamic comments .. or even fatwas to premit the killing of army or security forces or even going on to jihad by doing so all in all i believe i posted the two sides of the story without being sided with anyone " hopefully " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted May 9, 2011 #404 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Blah blah blah. Same old rhetoric and ignorance. Anyway, child killed in shelling and gunfire in Homs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted May 9, 2011 Author #405 Share Posted May 9, 2011 you didn't even read the post do make that judgement did you ? then i better not reply to your stupidity if you fail to finish a post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted May 9, 2011 #406 Share Posted May 9, 2011 you didn't even read the post do make that judgement did you ? then i better not reply to your stupidity if you fail to finish a post I gave up at "you see, Americans don't know except what they want them to know". It's not stupidity. I just can't be arsed telling you how wrong you are when it comes to that particular fact. Most Americans don't know anything. Period. What gives you the impression that media clowns such as Fox News would be the agent of government propoganda? They have their own agenda. Half of them haven't heard of Syria and I doubt very many of them could actually point it out on a map. I'll give you an example. A Fox News report on protests in Egypt placed that country where Iraq is. And this is supposedly "brainwashing" the Americans. If that's the case, you haven't got anything to complain about. At least I know where Syria is. And it's capital. And it's President. And it's currency (I'm assuming you still use the Syrian Pound). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted May 9, 2011 Author #407 Share Posted May 9, 2011 had you actually went on further in the post you'd see i clearly support those protests and i think what they're doing is noble in refusing to submit to being treated in such savage way and i also dislike the brutal way those protests were met however am offering two sides of things not one and the possiablity of outside interfernce of " parts " of those protests to turn them in it's own advantages and you may know few things about syria but i doubt you'd know the same as i know about it and yes most of people now calling bashar terrorist or bad man they never have heard of syria before the actions but suddenly they were given bad person to throw flames at and as stupid they are they just do it just coz it was presented to them that way .. well am not like that i analyize things before showing certain result and let me tell you the stupidity of people calling president bashar things i tell you know the president is powerless to what's happening the president did not give the orders to shoot people in daraa it's kind of internal affairs which outsiders couldn't possiably know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted May 9, 2011 #408 Share Posted May 9, 2011 is it not different ? does it make sense the the country fighting iran on every step for not having nuclear is the only country who ever used such country ? little common sense ? it's very much different and certinaly more colorful with red colors So a country wants to limit the power and influence of a rival. There's nothing special about that. In fact it's standard practice in international politics and has been going on for thousands of years. that's the main demands of their requests no more fear now they do not show hate for such ethnic group or religion etc etc they also don't show any desire for different foreign policy as matter of fact those foreign policies are the main reason many people are not protesting So does that mean people are putting foreign policy above internal policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted May 9, 2011 Author #409 Share Posted May 9, 2011 it's something like that for many people including people i know but personally i started to disagree with that if you wanna make good policy on the outside at least first treat your people with more respect and answer their demands i think the best thing is balance between foreign policy and internal policy that's the best thing there is we can have the same foreign policy with better internal policy that hold more respect for people and that people can actually talk without having this much of violence in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted May 10, 2011 #410 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I agree with that outlook. While foreign policy is important (one didn't vote for a party because they policy amounted to giving people hugs) I think how a government treats its own people is far more important. Once you have a system in place the benefits the citizens of a nation and keeps them safe and happy, they you should look at forming relationships with other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Shadows Posted June 12, 2011 Author #411 Share Posted June 12, 2011 despite the previous mistakes of banning the news resources and media from entering syria .. the latest the army as many have heard had interveine in " Geser Al Sogor " a town belong to Edleeb in syria due to the claiming there's terrorists in the area however i have to give it up for syrian army about this one they taken along with them many of the news channels reporter both arabic and western news channel reporters and cameras to let the world see the truth .. now what's interesting is that the arabic news channels that has criticized syria for not letting independent news channels to go in " did not agree to go with the army " for stupid reasons not worth of mentioning however the mission carried on without them but still include many western - arabic - syrian news reporters and camera to give facts well the report says when the military entered the area there was attempt to blow the press reporters bus by denmaites which was failed by the army afterward the armed gang opend fire " on the press bus " to be exact but they were surpressed by the army few were caught from the gangs and others were killed however the armed gangs escaped to a closeby area the army in presuade .. so i'll update when more news come .. personally i think it's good step that syrian army took news reporters and cameras from both arabic and non-arabic news sources to make the world see it ? don't you agree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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