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Knight Of Shadows

The Washington Post revealed in a report published on Monday that the US State Department was secretly financing what it called "Syrian political opposition groups" as shown by diplomatic cables exposed by the WikiLeaks website.

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http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2011/04/18/342179.htm

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MichaelW

The Washington Post revealed in a report published on Monday that the US State Department was secretly financing what it called "Syrian political opposition groups" as shown by diplomatic cables exposed by the WikiLeaks website.

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http://www.sana.sy/eng/22/2011/04/18/342179.htm

I'm doubting the validity of this one. I conducted a search on the Washington Posts' website and the search found no results.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/newssearch/search.html?sa=as&sd=&ed=&sb=-1&st=US+gives+secret+backing+to+Syrian+opposition&blt=&fa_1_pagenavigator=&fa_1_sectionnavigator=Politics&fa_1_sectionnavigator=World&fa_1_sourcenavigator=%22The+Washington+Post%22&daterange=0&specificMonth=4&specificDay=20&specificYear=2011&FromRangeMonth=4&FromRangeDay=6&FromRangeYear=2011&ToRangeMonth=4&ToRangeDay=20&ToRangeYear=2011&sb2=-1&x=0&y=0

Besides, why is this shocking? Syria's been funding Hezbollah for years. Tell me why this is different?

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MichaelW

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/04/18/us.syria.opposition/index.html?iref=allsearch

CNN has the story. Though wouldn't think kill the whole "world media is bias" theory?

Knight's already dug himself a deep hole. This is the sealing of the tomb.

Besides, as I pointed out earlier, Syria funds groups which try to undermine governments in Israel and Lebanon. So why should this be an exception?

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Knight Of Shadows

dug my self a hole ? :D

dude i don't care what you think

not for a second after i press the x botton

i think about it :lol:

well syria finances resistances

every living beings know that .. even though if i asked

a hard evidence from you beside the americans and israeli claims

you'll feel to knees helpless to find such evidence :D

but am a reasonable person i know my country provide resistance

in palestine and lebanon with weapons .. proud of it actually too

the different syria provide resistance with weapons

to fight off invaders ..

hezboallah = the resistance that forced israel to withdraw from lebanon

hamas = the resistance of palestinain people

but usa fianancing people to start sects wars between civilians of syria

with no bussiness and no excuse they stick their long nose into

syrian affairs .. however

like i said .. am very very very proud of my country

supporting resistance all over middle east :wub:

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MichaelW

dug my self a hole ? :D

dude i don't care what you think

not for a second after i press the x botton

i think about it :lol:

well syria finances resistances

every living beings know that .. even though if i asked

a hard evidence from you beside the americans and israeli claims

you'll feel to knees helpless to find such evidence :D

but am a reasonable person i know my country provide resistance

in palestine and lebanon with weapons .. proud of it actually too

the different syria provide resistance with weapons

to fight off invaders ..

hezboallah = the resistance that forced israel to withdraw from lebanon

hamas = the resistance of palestinain people

but usa fianancing people to start sects wars between civilians of syria

with no bussiness and no excuse they stick their long nose into

syrian affairs .. however

like i said .. am very very very proud of my country

supporting resistance all over middle east :wub:

Always with the excuses.

Knight, Syria funding Hezbollah is exactly the same as the US funding opposition groups. Both are "resisting" governments. If you think there is a difference, then you are wrong. In fact, Hamas resisted Fatah in Gaza for a while, so I wouldn't count on Palestine being "united" since both groups fought with each other as much as they did with the Israelis.

No matter. Syria will always continue to be a pariah state. And no ammount of ludicrous excuses will change that fact.

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Knight Of Shadows

to you perhaps .. but again your agreement ain't required :D

both are resisting goverments ?

hamas ain't resisting goverment .. it's resisting invasions

there's different .. or should i even explain this ?

syria is the " Only " country that refused ameriacan and israeli

existence in the area while all the other arabic countries

hid their head in their holes and acted like chickens

making peace with israel and usa and acted as their puppets

forgetting about the arabic people of palestine

just in return for their personal interests

it does me enough honor to be a part of a country

that did not bow to the western influnce and power

so the reason above which made syria to be drawn in bad image

through most of the western world

now usa financing oppositions to goverment

the same oppositions whom trying to turn people against each other

religions at each others .. races etc etc

trying to start civil war .. that's not resistance

that's supporting terrorism .. it's very like the usa no surprise

however i don't wanna turn the topic to another topic

i just posted a news of the events ;)

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Corp

How is accepting reality being a chicken? Israel is here to stay. The country and its population isn't going to disappear. Efforts were made to use violence to "help" the Palestinians and they failed badly. Using peaceful methods are having a much greater effect imo. And I don't see how funding what seem to be peaceful protests is the same as funding groups that see children as military targets. Hamas seems to have finally clued in the last few years but they were nothing to be proud about for most of their history. As for Hezbollah they seem to be less about fighting Israel and more about trying to gain power and influence in Lebanon. Having a state within a state with its own private army is never a good thing and it's my belief that unless Hezbollah stands down and starts to disband (along with the other minor militia groups) then Lebanon will never be as strong as it should be.

Though this does bring up a question. Does Syria grant Palestinians full citizenship like I believe Jordan does or do they stay in refugee camps like in Lebanon?

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Knight Of Shadows

peaceful protestors ?

what's so peaceful about breaking into people shops ?

shooting at people ? killing police and mutilute them ?

it's actually feels so good to see syria became such a pain

to use such depserate methods on it after refusing to be puppet to usa

you describe the situation of hamas in twisted way

why don't you describe it as people were living peacefully

and a whole punch of people came with force under gun point

and started killing off their families and building their houses

on the ruins and bodies of the original people ?

why didn't you describe it this way ? why do you mention hamas targeting children

and family .. why didn't you mention israel doing the same or worse ??

are you really this one sided ?

their fighting is their " right " as resistance for their lands

that's about hamas

about hezboallah syria started supporting it way back when " again "

israel was in parts of lebanon to help them fight off invaders

" also " as their full right to do so as the existence of israel in lebanon

was occupying which makes resistance a legimate right

why also didn't you describe it this way ?

again why so one sided and finding excuses instead of facing the facts of history ?

down to your question .. palestine people are refuges

they live like any normal syrian and even serve in syrian army but without syrian id

so they won't forget their roots

let me debunk this weak point you're trying to sneak around

syria .. when the palestinians scattard all over middle east

syria was the most country who took them in

let's go back to iraq war ? nice ? we got a very large number of iraqies in syria

who came at the time of war on iraq

which resulted really bad impact on syrians regardless job chances and living level

but syria Kept taking them in

again .. in lebanon war syria's door was open to all lebanon at boreders

offering them water and shelter on the borders and making them comfortable as possiable

till they get off the borders to syria

so i think it's the last thing you should talk about that's syria didn't do much

for citizians of other arabic countries

the facts are against you here

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Corp

Yes asking a simple question is sneaking around an issue. :rolleyes: Though I thank you for the answer.

And I'm not one sided on the issue as my posting history will show. I think both sides are in the wrong and would much rather slaughter each other than try to live in peace. A few years ago I was pro-Israel but with their government showing more and more that they don't want peace and the main Palestinian groups finally cluing in that terrorism gets them nothing my views have shifted.

And yes peaceful protests. Because that's what the world media outlets are showing, largely peaceful protesters who are getting shot up by what we're told are Syrian security officers. In addition I believe that you yourself have said that people are peacefully protesting but unidentified gangs are killing them, trying to break up the country. Has this changed now? Are the anti-government protesters now killing people?

Hmm...seems the Syrian Cabinet has passed to bill to get rid of that state of emergency. What happened to the committee study they were going to do?

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Princess Serenity

I don't know how exactly to put this into words. So forgive me.

I heard on Fox News that the president is going to have a new law. Saying that you must fill out a form (I think) about what you're protesting. And whether you should protest or not. (I can't quite remember.)

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Could be just having people fill out a permit for protesting. Know they have that here so if you're doing a march they know to have police on hand to redirect traffic and such.

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Knight Of Shadows

no need to apologize moon indeed

a peacefull protest should inform the goverment " mere inform and not taking premission "

just to inform the goverment so they can give extra security to the area

so there won't be any troubles or violence

plus to make traffic take other paths and such things

it's not premission to protest it's to inform the goverment so they can take

measure acts of safty for protestors and prevent violence and such acts

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Knight Of Shadows

Yes asking a simple question is sneaking around an issue. :rolleyes: Though I thank you for the answer.

And I'm not one sided on the issue as my posting history will show. I think both sides are in the wrong and would much rather slaughter each other than try to live in peace. A few years ago I was pro-Israel but with their government showing more and more that they don't want peace and the main Palestinian groups finally cluing in that terrorism gets them nothing my views have shifted.

And yes peaceful protests. Because that's what the world media outlets are showing, largely peaceful protesters who are getting shot up by what we're told are Syrian security officers. In addition I believe that you yourself have said that people are peacefully protesting but unidentified gangs are killing them, trying to break up the country. Has this changed now? Are the anti-government protesters now killing people?

Hmm...seems the Syrian Cabinet has passed to bill to get rid of that state of emergency. What happened to the committee study they were going to do?

that's a relief that's you're not taking sides

however i won't comment on palestine-israel matter so we won't be drift out of topic

back to syria peacful protestors were " right " to protest

there was flaws and mistake in the goverment and many bad things

no one trying to cover those

the people who protested are as good syrian citizans as any supporter of the goverment

the problem wasn't with the protestors it was in people used protestors as cover

to shoot protestors and spread news that police shooting protestors

to shoot videos of every protest that happens

don't tell me you haven't noticed that syria jumped in world media

as the main topic .. even lybia is background .. yemen

bahrin no one knows that there's protestors there

still not the protestors who shoot people it's the armed gangs

however for the emergency law it seems close to be over

as you can see the goverment almost responded to every demand by protestors

isn't that a sign of good will ?

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Well I'm glad that the government is ending the state of emergency, it's a good sign. Hopefully they can improve on it.

As for world news while Syria is a major topic at the moment Libya and Nigeria seem to be the focus. On CNN's Middle East main page there's two Syrian stories and three Yemen stories. So while Syrian protests are still important stories they haven't knocked everything else aside.

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MichaelW

to you perhaps .. but again your agreement ain't required :D

both are resisting goverments ?

hamas ain't resisting goverment .. it's resisting invasions

there's different .. or should i even explain this ?

Firstly, Gaza has not been invaded and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Secondly, you don't need to explain anything because it is not different at all.

syria is the " Only " country that refused ameriacan and israeli

existence in the area while all the other arabic countries

hid their head in their holes and acted like chickens

making peace with israel and usa and acted as their puppets

forgetting about the arabic people of palestine

just in return for their personal interests

Those who have made peace have benefitted. As I recall, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait and all the other kingdoms are far richer than Syria. They have made progress.

Also, Arabs don't care about Palestinians.

it does me enough honor to be a part of a country

that did not bow to the western influnce and power

so the reason above which made syria to be drawn in bad image

through most of the western world

now usa financing oppositions to goverment

the same oppositions whom trying to turn people against each other

religions at each others .. races etc etc

trying to start civil war .. that's not resistance

that's supporting terrorism .. it's very like the usa no surprise

however i don't wanna turn the topic to another topic

i just posted a news of the events ;)

No, you try and influence the opinions of others. As you said, you were the "messenger of truth". The protests were against the state, not each other. Again, facts have not made an appearance in your reply. And besides, Syria supports terrorism as well.

It's very hypocritical to say that Americans sponsor terrorism when Syria does as well. Don't deny it because you do.

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Mr.United_Nations

The reason KOS dosn't say anti government is because if did, he would of been arrested and killled.

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Knight Of Shadows

Well I'm glad that the government is ending the state of emergency, it's a good sign. Hopefully they can improve on it.

As for world news while Syria is a major topic at the moment Libya and Nigeria seem to be the focus. On CNN's Middle East main page there's two Syrian stories and three Yemen stories. So while Syrian protests are still important stories they haven't knocked everything else aside.

and that's only a start the speech of the president to the new goverment

had been really postive " which was the reason it didn't appear on tv "

like the first speech .. coz there was no points to citicize

however you might be talking about western channels

but all those channels you speak of take their news

from the arabic channels who belongs to a puppet countries

to the usa .. arabic cnn = england .. no comment

Alarabyia And Aljazerha Saudia .. and United Arab Emirates

had i recall it right however

on those figures i speak you can enjoy " friday of rage "

all the time on them they just gave the whole friday day to syria

events :D you can enjoy it all day watching the same video

they keep playing on and on

or they can put a video of old protest .. and play while taking

phone calls from syrians " outside " of syria

making stupid statements about syria like they're here now

or an " eyewitnesses " which completly takes the cake

and jim carry would die of jealousy

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Knight Of Shadows

Firstly, Gaza has not been invaded and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Secondly, you don't need to explain anything because it is not different at all.

Those who have made peace have benefitted. As I recall, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait and all the other kingdoms are far richer than Syria. They have made progress.

Also, Arabs don't care about Palestinians.

No, you try and influence the opinions of others. As you said, you were the "messenger of truth". The protests were against the state, not each other. Again, facts have not made an appearance in your reply. And besides, Syria supports terrorism as well.

It's very hypocritical to say that Americans sponsor terrorism when Syria does as well. Don't deny it because you do.

well i don't think anyone said am trying to change anyone opinion

messanger of truth :D only bring the other side of the story

which living in one sided media prevents from getting it

and i let people decide am giving my opinion as honest syrian

who live within the action and very close to every part of it

and am getting bored of you here man

i have embarrased you by debunking your claims about terrorism

for many time you just don't know where to stop

piece of cake .. hezboallah ? terrorists ?

i don't think so ... why ? well you should ask all countries in the world

except usa - israel - england - Netherlands - Australia - Canada

previously egypt under their american sock puppet president

but things will change

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah

so 6 countries out of what ? hell i'll let you do the math

and it happened all those 6 countries are friends of usa !!

now why would usa call an enemy terrorists ?! loool

don't you know ? every enemy of the usa is terrorist

even if you're defending your country !! you're terrorist !

jesus you have the intellgence of a child michael :D

Hamas ??

The European Union,the United States,Canada,Israel and Japan

consider them terrorists .. wow usa and israel are there also

wait .. they're the one who made the claim :D

wonder why china and turkey and russia or norway consider don't consider

them terrorists ? how about the rest of the world ? :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

why do you insist on displaying your lack of knowledge ?

and you think insulting behavior would erase your ignorance ?

it'll only show it more

go do some reading and don't talk to me untill you educate your self

and get really equpid with knowledge .. of your personal reseach

not based on what the usa or isarel says

honestly they're not the most " honest " countries in the world

so you can take their word blindly

now if you excuse me i would like to get back to my topic

i waisted more than enough time on ya

damn this messanger of truth job is a real pain :D

looooool erix .. no comment !! :D

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ships-cat

I don't know how exactly to put this into words. So forgive me.

I heard on Fox News that the president is going to have a new law. Saying that you must fill out a form (I think) about what you're protesting. And whether you should protest or not. (I can't quite remember.)

This is standard practice in many democracies Moon Princess,including the UK.

meow purr :)

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Knight Of Shadows

the reason the preisdent used this law

is for the west if ever attempted to criticze the answer is

" we're using your laws and democracy " :D

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however you might be talking about western channels

but all those channels you speak of take their news

from the arabic channels who belongs to a puppet countries

to the usa .. arabic cnn = england .. no comment

Alarabyia And Aljazerha Saudia .. and United Arab Emirates

had i recall it right however

So the Western news agencies are getting their information from Arab news agencies who are actually controled by the West? That makes no sense.

Japan is talking about stories other than Syria, South Africa is talking about other stories, and India is talking about other news stories. So really you can't just dismiss this as a Western thing. Besides if making the Syrian government look bad is some vast Western plot than why are all the major news networks treating the protests as just another news story?

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Knight Of Shadows

i meant the news about syria

coz in syria there's no reporters from any news agency

so i thought the west news agency had the decency not to make news

of something they don't know about

instead they decided to take " copycat " syrian news

from the arabic news channels " which controlled by the west's friends "

like i mentioned and spread it as " facts "

would you look at arabic channels ?

specially the one runned by saudia's resources

then let me know what you think

i just ask you to watch " aljazera or alarabya " friday day :D

and judge for your self :tu:

right now there's more and more rage inbetween syrian citizians

at aljazera and already i shown how people gather outside it's office

requseting an apology to syrian people and some even

went on demanding a shut down for this hippocrates news

am just bringing you the thoughts of my fellow syrians

at least the majority of them :P

am talking about arabic media not the west

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