Republican Congressman: Iraq War Was Mistake

[Babs]

Fox News

Whoaoo..., a little to much paranoia.I read the mesage in the article :" the world isnt safe for us, the honest americans.Dont leave your country or you will be killed or kipnaped or worse. outside is ugly. Keep inside, and be a good and obedient citizen. the goverment will protec you. All Hail Bush"

Mekorig....are you an enemy of the states? (USA)

Edited August 29, 2004 by Babs

[wunarmdscissor]

Mekorig has explained why he dislikes AMerica before babs.

If you ask me hes perfectly entitled to.

His people suffered as a direct result of america's governments's actions.

Im not sayin i agree i just understand .

Edited August 29, 2004 by wunarmdscissor

[Babs]

Let Mekorig reply. He is hostile and I want to know what's up!

[alis]

Let Mekorig reply. He is hostile and I want to know what's up!   

maybe mekorig has a life outside the forum, besides where in this thread is he hostile?

[Babs]

Some of his replies have been hostile to the US_ down through the months_ and he has been replying to me.

Edited August 29, 2004 by Babs

[wunarmdscissor]

LIke i said why dont you go through his posts, he dislikes american foreign policy becaus ethey backed south american military juntas and dictator's IE: General Pinochet who were just as bad as Saddam.

Mind you america backed him as well didnt they.

Why is it hard for you to take that because america has had decades of simply dreadful foreign policy that made millions of people around the world suffer??????

An the UK had a good hand in it as well.

The difference between me an you is clear.

Im as patriotoc as you but not as blind as you.

I am willing to accept what my country has done in the past.

We cant just waltz into a country afetr 3 decades of supporting tyrannical dicatators in the region and say "honestly we're good guys now".

[Kismit]

Mind you america backed him as well didnt they.

See here is something I think needs adressed , it was not actually America but the governing agencies and there members that backed him . The statement is generalised and bound to get peoples backs up especially those who might actually be American .

So as a reminder to every-one avoid the use of gross generalisations please

[wunarmdscissor]

it was not actually America but the governing agencies and there members that backed him

Im risking my neck here kismit lol but..........

i beg to differ.

Is it not the american people who vote these people into power.

By that reasoning then it IS america.

The people knew what american foreign policy was and if they didnt yet still voted these people into power then thats even more damning.

Anyway i think your wrong kismit.

[Kismit]

Wun ,

you are of course allowed to argue a point as all opinions should be considered valid .

So here I go again allthough the American people voted some of those people responsible into power they did not have any choice or say in the actions that where later taken by them without the consent of the American people .

Infact I don't think the government even held a local ring round phone talley to see if the public wanted it . So no, it is again here the actions of a few that tar a lot more with the same brush .

And sadly for you I am not wrong , generalisations generally end in flame wars , after all some of the people you blame did not vote for the people who made it into government , some of them may not have voted at all and some of them where and still are to young to vote , are they responsible ?

Edited August 30, 2004 by Kismit

[+joc]

And sadly for you I am not wrong , generalisations generally end in flame wars , after all some of the people you blame did not vote for the people who made it into government , some of them may not have voted at all and some of them where and still are to young to vote , are they responsible ?

Perfect example of why Kismit is a Moderator on this forum.

[Velikovsky]

Actually why is it that we as Americans aren't at fault? Aren't we the ones who allow our elected officials to continue making the stupid decisions? Aren't we the ones who turn a blind eye to the actions of our elected officials? Then when we as Americans are disliked by large parts of the world we wonder why. We say oh it's not our fault. I'm an American but I didn't do it. It was the politicians not me. Actually it is the responsibility of every single American to be responsible for what their government does the second they turn 18. The people in Washington are not our leaders. They are public servants. We as Americans seem to have forgotten that fact. So yes we are responsible for as long we allow our elected officials to get away with dishonest and immoral actions that the rest of the world has to pay for.

[Babs]

I agree with that, except not all Americans vote. ( in a perfect world, maybe)

[Velikovsky]

I agree with that, except not all Americans vote. ( in a perfect world, maybe)

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Which is why the right to vote needs to be earned. If people had to earn it they might value it.

[Babs]

It is such a moving Republican Convention... so much emotion. (John Mc Cain and Rudy G. were the most stirring speakers)

[Magikman]

Let's stay on topic please, Babs.

[Babs]

Got carried away. Sorry Magikman.