J.B. Posted May 8, 2011 #801 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Conspiracy theorists have their screws loose. They aren't going to listen to evidence no matter what, and the Neocon conspiracy crap isn't even real. They don't believe this **** they just say it to fan the flames against their enemy because they don't have any legitimate way to overthrow someone they LOST to. Politicians need to get over themselves, the world certainly couldn't care less if the current order fell on its sword and got replaced by another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liteness Posted May 8, 2011 #802 Share Posted May 8, 2011 With out presenting links this will be skimmed over. Hard to link several years of study/information and general observation. What link would help to stop skimming over the fact that a monetary system is slavery? For example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liteness Posted May 8, 2011 #803 Share Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) The guy is blaming everything on Zionists. I doubt he has any links of real value. Bankers and world elite as well. What is everyones obsession with links? Give me a link that shows there is not a world elite, or give me a link that says bankers are pulling the strings, and give me a link that shows most of these elite aren't Zionists? CNN never gives links, Fox never gives links. They just send some bull on TV and present it as fact, with no evidence what so ever. Give me a link that shows bankers (money changers) are not destroying our world? Edited May 8, 2011 by liteness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastaman Posted May 8, 2011 Author #804 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It is true Zionists run the media atleast here in the U.S. Its not really about being anti-semetic its just the fact for whatever the case may be. Unfortunately such people are immune to criticism at this point, which is probably exactly what they want. Instead you must call them "the elite" , "The illuminati" or "the banksters" to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liteness Posted May 8, 2011 #805 Share Posted May 8, 2011 It is true Zionists run the media atleast here in the U.S. Its not really about being anti-semetic its just the fact for whatever the case may be. Unfortunately such people are immune to criticism at this point, which is probably exactly what they want. Instead you must call them "the elite" , "The illuminati" or "the banksters" to get away with it. New thread, since this is about the staged OBL and terror stuff... http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=205695 Those who wish to engage my views and opinions, and wish to express their own please join along in the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted May 9, 2011 #806 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Photos are not necessary. I totally agree with that. People are going to toss the bull whether those pics are released or not. Won't make one bit of difference. Given the protests over the death of OBL that are already taking place, I think the pics would only cause more disruption. The body was disposed of the way it was to stop it from becoming a shrine somewhere. Releasing the photos would only provide a rallying point. We need to remain vigilant in expecting some sort of retaliation, but I think Obama is taking the right course in not fanning the flames. I really don't want to see the bloody result of the raid anyway. Well I'm sorry, but in hindsight, photos of a dead body, of a guy we haven't seen or heard of for years, who was shot in the head twice, the most wanted guy in the world allegedly living in anonymity for 10 years, a spit away from the capital of an allied country, the most important allied country in the region, just doesn't cut it for me. Nor will an announcement from the US Govt that DNA samples match those of his relatives. Don't know if you're capable of seeing the peculiarity in this turmoil of events called "War on Terror" but people aren't just "tossing the bull" because they want to be skeptical or because they want to find a conspiracy to make their lives more interesting. Afterall, War on Terror dragged and involved the military presence of over 40 countries since 9/11, with close to 4 trillion dollars spent worlwide (by some accounts) and most importantly thousands of dead civilians (including the ones who perished in the Towers) and soldiers. A war, together with the War in Iraq, which has brought world economies to bankruptcy. And, it's not that the US Govt has never lied before, for example, reasons for invading another country without proof (WMD ring a bell?). So lets just not assume people are chronic conspiracy theorists, there are precedents, therefore people want more and not just the "word from the US President". Furthermore, what I find BS is that Govts and Politicians (not just the US by the way) seem to believe they have a Right to hide the truth from people that elect them, who contribute financially and/or provide the resources for their political agendas. Under normal circumstances a person would ask for a guarantee, proof, a validation that their contribution/investment was worthwhile or applied for a just cause etc. Why is a Govt different? I don't believe for one second that it's because of National Security and to "protect the citizens". That's just a feeble excuse, one for the gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted May 9, 2011 #807 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Bankers and world elite as well. What is everyones obsession with links? Give me a link that shows there is not a world elite, or give me a link that says bankers are pulling the strings, and give me a link that shows most of these elite aren't Zionists? CNN never gives links, Fox never gives links. They just send some bull on TV and present it as fact, with no evidence what so ever. Give me a link that shows bankers (money changers) are not destroying our world? When you make a claim that goes against generally accepted beliefs (like claiming Zionist/Illuminati/NWO/lizard men rule the world) it's generally assumed that you have evidence to back these claims up and are willing to provide that evidence. Burden of proof and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted May 9, 2011 #808 Share Posted May 9, 2011 When you make a claim that goes against generally accepted beliefs (like claiming Zionist/Illuminati/NWO/lizard men rule the world) it's generally assumed that you have evidence to back these claims up and are willing to provide that evidence. Burden of proof and all that. Absolutely it is not like that. When you make any claim at all, whether its for or against the generally accepted belief, the burden of proof is on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp Posted May 9, 2011 #809 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I guess that's true. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted May 9, 2011 #810 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Absolutely it is not like that. When you make any claim at all, whether its for or against the generally accepted belief, the burden of proof is on you. I agree too. No body - no proof. No person, with a sane or conscious mind would dump the body seeking to provide burden of proof. -But the american government did... just as the Gambino's or the Bonanno's would have done. How anybody can believe the lying american federal government(-the D's and the R's) is beyond comprehension. They lie to you about the economy when they steal your money and give it to their friends. They lie to you about the inflation numbers so their massive monetary ponzi scheme is allowed to continue. They lie to the american un-employed about the true percentage of unemployment in America which has risen, by the Fed's calculation, back to 9% again. And than they make up some story about a 24 hour islamic burial custom which doesn't exist as an excuse for not wanting to create any resentment towards American's when it wasn't the american citizens who dumped the body!... it was the Federal governments decision to dump the evidence! The same Feds who constantly lie to you about your finances while you wonder why they are not telling you the full truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted May 9, 2011 #811 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree too. No body - no proof. No person, with a sane or conscious mind would dump the body seeking to provide burden of proof. What do you suppose would have happened.. IF Obama had of done what Bush did when Saddam and his two son were captured?? What would happen..if he allowed the pictures to be seen?? how many would blast him for it?? you for one?? cry out - shameful..FAKE.. PHOTOSHOP??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted May 9, 2011 #812 Share Posted May 9, 2011 What do you suppose would have happened.. IF Obama had of done what Bush did when Saddam and his two son were captured?? What would happen..if he allowed the pictures to be seen?? how many would blast him for it?? you for one?? cry out - shameful..FAKE.. PHOTOSHOP??? Forget the pictures. Stay focused. Obama dumped the body like the Gambino's and the Bonanno's would have done. What would have happened if the body was kept aboard an aircraft carrier miles out in the ocean? -it could have been independently vetted by the public. No harm would have come to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted May 10, 2011 #813 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Forget the pictures. Stay focused. Obama dumped the body like the Gambino's and the Bonanno's would have done. What would have happened if the body was kept aboard an aircraft carrier miles out in the ocean? -it could have been independently vetted by the public. No harm would have come to anybody. Stay focused. Don't forget they wanted to observe the muslim tradition of burial within 24 hours of death... What do you mean vetted by the public???...Pitch a tent and charge admission?? Lets all poke the dead guy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted May 10, 2011 #814 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Stay focused. Don't forget they wanted to observe the muslim tradition of burial within 24 hours of death... What do you mean vetted by the public???...Pitch a tent and charge admission?? Lets all poke the dead guy??? Yes stay focused. It's not true that there is a 24 hour muslim tradition of burial within 24hrs of death. Not in the 21st century and certainly not when the person is the center of a long and drawn out international investigation related directly to 911. This is not how the Indonesian government handled the Bali bombers in 2005, a country with the largest muslim population on the planet. It would be silly to suggest that this case is some how different. Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation.. You think it's funny that I suggest the body should have been examined by any country affected by The War on Terror. It's all one big joke. Just laugh at it like it means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMessiah Posted May 10, 2011 #815 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I can't believe I'm even saying this, but you are aware that you're espousing the political manifesto of an ex-professional wrestler's stance against the bourgeoisie. Right? I just want to be absolutely certain. Who now has a corny show about conspiracy theories. Translation, he's an actor that stands to profit from the spread of conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted May 10, 2011 #816 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Obama dumped the body like the Gambino's and the Bonanno's would have done. Even worse than dumping him in the sea is the fact they killed him to begin with. The big number one, the key to the world wide terror network and they killed him..... I guess thats why they keep hyping the junk they found on his computer... the computer that all their sneek and peak, wireless surverilance, and creeping peeping couldn't find..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted May 10, 2011 #817 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) It's not true that there is a 24 hour muslim tradition of burial within 24hrs of death. Before the Muslim deceased is taken to the Muslim cemetery, (if one available) there is a prayer given salat al-mayyit, prayer of the dead. It is important for Muslims to be buried as soon as they are considered deceased, and in some cases there have been recorded cases of Muslims been buried alive. http://www.urbandict...l&defid=2072332 Why do Muslims bury within 24 Hours of death? Muslims believe in keeping the body as close as possible to its natural state. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, the body is not embalmed, frozen or autopsied. It is also because Islam began in a really hot climate where the spread of disease was a very real peril and bodies de cayed fast. The best way to make sure dead bodies don't spread disease in such climates is simply to bury them fast. This also keeps the dignity of the person. Muslims feel the world as temporary place, when soul leaves the body there is no reason to keep the body and real life begin after death. Many Islamic States have their own customs and laws regarding burial. Jews also bury their dead within 24 hours...click.- >MODERATE MUSLIM VOICES It was reported that the US buried the Saudi-born leader's body following the Islamic tradition .... which means they buried him within 24 hours. American officials also said that it will be difficult to find a country that will accept Bin Laden's remains, so they decided to bury him at the sea. It's all one big joke. Just laugh at it like it means nothing. Oh never worry, I have done that with what you have posted so far lol Edited May 10, 2011 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted May 10, 2011 #818 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Says it all really :- http://www.youtube.com/patcondell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted May 10, 2011 #819 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Says it all really :- http://www.youtube.com/patcondell OMG EXCELLENT....the last part was funny... He seems to speak his mind.... I laughed at the part about the pork chop ...even though I should really laugh but couldn't help it @did the Navy Seals remember to take their shoes off before entry? Sometimes, conspiracy theorists..get on my nerves...from - man didn't land on the moon to this clap trap.. Edited May 10, 2011 by Beckys_Mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffybunny Posted May 10, 2011 #820 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Let's hope that Dakota Fanning was available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conspiracybeliever Posted May 11, 2011 #821 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Let's hope that Dakota Fanning was available... OMG that's hilarious!! Not that I'm laughing at the dead man! The video is very funy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurthurBB Posted May 11, 2011 #822 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Yes stay focused. It's not true that there is a 24 hour muslim tradition of burial within 24hrs of death. Not in the 21st century and certainly not when the person is the center of a long and drawn out international investigation related directly to 911. This is not how the Indonesian government handled the Bali bombers in 2005, a country with the largest muslim population on the planet. It would be silly to suggest that this case is some how different. Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation.. You think it's funny that I suggest the body should have been examined by any country affected by The War on Terror. It's all one big joke. Just laugh at it like it means nothing. It is pretty ridiculous, I do not think making a side show out of a dead body is ever a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckys_Mom Posted May 11, 2011 #823 Share Posted May 11, 2011 It is pretty ridiculous, I do not think making a side show out of a dead body is ever a good plan. If Obama had of let the world see his dead body.. many on here calling it all a big conspiracy ... would STILL blast him regardless ... it's a catch 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q24 Posted May 11, 2011 #824 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The guy is blaming everything on Zionists. I doubt he has any links of real value. When Zionists hijack the U.S. government... “Israel controls the United States Senate” ~James Fulbright, U.S. Senator – 1973 "[u.S. Secretary of State] Baker has used strong language about Israel's political supporters in the past, referring to some members of Congress who support Israel's position as the "little Knesset," a reference to Israel's parliament." ~L.A. Times, - 1992 “This [u.S. Government] system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” ~Osama bin Laden – 2001 “The other thing is that the Jewish lobby is very wealthy and very powerful… because it gives money to every politician in Congress practically… politicians in the United States need money to get elected because we don’t have publicly funded elections and so they don’t want to have that lobby working against them and politicians who have stood up to that lobby like Cynthia Mckinney… find themselves attacked to the point that the Jewish lobby… the pro-Israel lobby, AIPAC, has funded people to campaign against people like McKinney who was defeated in an election due to that focussed attack on her.” ~David Lindorff, U.S. investigative journalist “The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.” ~The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy “Believe me, America accepts all our decisions” ~Avigdor Lieberman, Israeli Foreign Minister – 2009 And lobby for the U.S. to fight war in the Zionist interest... “Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 - it's the threat against Israel.” ~Philip Zelikow, American diplomat – 2002 “The Neoconservatives’ intention in Iraq was never to truly build democracy there. Their intention was to flatten it, to remove Iraq as a regional threat to Israel.” ~Charles Freeman, former U.S. Director of National Intelligence – 2003 “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.” ~Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister – 2008 And those Zionists have involvement in 9/11... “A highly placed investigator says there are ‘tie-ins’ [between the Israeli spy ring and 9/11]. However, when asked for details, he flatly refuses to describe them, saying, ‘evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.’” ~Fox News – December, 2001 “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11. Bear in mind that this was a political issue, not a law enforcement or intelligence issue. If somebody says we don't want the Israelis implicated in this - we know that they've been spying the hell out of us, we know that they possibly had information in advance of the attacks, but this would be a political nightmare to deal with.” ~Vince Cannistraro, former CIA chief of counterterrorism “They did it. I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at its headquarters, Marine Corps and I made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period.” ~Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College - 2010 Why not put Zionists on the suspect list? U.S. politicians including Elliot Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Lewis Libby, Douglas Feith, Dov Zakheim, Joshua Bolten, Eliot Cohen, Michael Chertoff, Ari Fleischer, William Cohen, Henry Kissinger... the WTC owner, the chairman of the NY Port Authority who oversaw the deed transfer and head of the commission that privatised the WTC... the five intelligence agents detained on the scene in New York on 9/11... All Jewish. Who's interests come first here, those of Israel or the United States? “It’s very good [9/11]… well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel].” ~Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister – 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q24 Posted May 11, 2011 #825 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If Obama had of let the world see his dead body.. many on here calling it all a big conspiracy ... would STILL blast him regardless ... it's a catch 22 I would think this is true. Would you take the chance that a serial liar is telling the truth this once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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