+DieChecker Posted May 3, 2011 #1 Share Posted May 3, 2011 http://squatchdetective.com/VtTrailCam.htm Supposedly they had a photo expert look at the pic and conclude that the shadows indicate it is a real animal in the position it appears to be in. Appears to be much larger then a normal human. Some people have said it is an Owl with its back to the camera and some say it is a bear. Any other opinions? I think it looks amazingly like what a bigfoot might look like in such a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted May 3, 2011 #2 Share Posted May 3, 2011 A bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~TheBigK~ Posted May 3, 2011 #3 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Hmm, it does look a bit like an owl. I'm curious though, it said it was taken in September '10? Why is this only now just getting out? And if it has been floating around, and people thought it was legitimate, you would think we'd have heard about it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted May 3, 2011 #4 Share Posted May 3, 2011 This possibly http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.camo-store.com/Free%2520Stuff/Images/Articles%2520-%2520Sniper%2520Camo%25201.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.camo-store.com/Free%2520Stuff/Sniper%2520Camouflage%2520Techniques.htm&h=256&w=250&sz=25&tbnid=3vUhSObsPr4m7M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=108&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsniper%2Bcamo%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=sniper+camo&usg=__aKVsbrxC-LxShDigfeEaKIILUiI=&sa=X&ei=Gm_ATcfNGYHagAfpoPjuBQ&ved=0CB8Q9QEwAg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracket Posted May 3, 2011 #5 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Looks like a guy in a gillie suit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drj312 Posted May 3, 2011 #6 Share Posted May 3, 2011 gillie suit was the first thing i thought of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left-Field Posted May 3, 2011 #7 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Some people have said it is an Owl with its back to the camera and some say it is a bear. Any other opinions? I'm thinking it's the owl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted May 3, 2011 #8 Share Posted May 3, 2011 It could be facing the camera with its head down and the bulging parts are its thighs. Almost like a cat when it's drinking milk. A wild boar? One foot looks a bit like a pig's trotter to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmbuzz Posted May 3, 2011 #9 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Hi guys! 1st time poster. I don't know? but I see a head, a face and a black tube-like neck. The pic is very interesting. I was leaning towards of it being phony because the neck looks so unnatural. Went back at it, and noticed it might be she, who looks like it might be carrying something under her belly like the apes do with their young. Still undecided because of the neck. Edited May 3, 2011 by wmbuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmbuzz Posted May 3, 2011 #10 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Hi guys! 1st time poster. I don't know? but I see a head, a face and a black tube-like neck. The pic is very interesting. I was leaning towards of it being phony because the neck looks so unnatural. Went back at it, and noticed it might be she, who looks like it might be carrying something under her belly, like the apes do with their young. Still undecided because of the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted May 3, 2011 #11 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Ewww, since when did Bigfoot get mange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 3, 2011 #12 Share Posted May 3, 2011 His picture of Deer have 3 consecutive pictures, meaning when his camera is triggered, it takes 3 shots..... Why only one shot of this?...Where are the other 2? Big sign of hoax right there.....They took the best of the 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiloh17 Posted May 4, 2011 #13 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Maybe it's just me, but those don't look like apple trees. And even if they are, apples don't fall, then roll that far away from the tree as depicted in the deer pictures. The guy posing like bigfoot at the same tree appears to be near an evergreen and not an apple tree. Edited May 4, 2011 by Realm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #14 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Maybe it's just me, but those don't look like apple trees. And even if they are, apples don't fall, then roll that far away from the tree as depicted in the deer pictures. The guy posing like bigfoot at the same tree appears to be near an evergreen and not an apple tree. You made me go back and look.... 1. Correct, not a apple tree at all.... 2. Not a deer, a dog or Coyote. 3. A gillie suit, the bright areas are where the suit is opened up and not covering everything, the IR picks it up and brightens it.( light colors ) 4. The camera is NOT in the same position it was for the first shots, it is much closer to the road...Unless someone moved the tree it was strapped to, I would say the camera was being held by someone while the other " posed ". 5. Again, the camera took 3 " burst " shots on the first pictures, why only one of the guy in the suit?...Cameras have settings for 3 burst, 6 burst, etc..No need to change from a 3 burst setting to a 1 burst.... 6. I can not quite make out the dates on the first set of pics, but the time is later at night, 9 or almost 10 PM....The temperature is 65 degrees....Yet the Gillie suit picture is at 78 degrees, and says 5:55 PM, with a explanation that the time stamp is off...That does not add up at all....Temperatues do not rise during the night, they fall or stay stable...The excuse of the time stamp being wrong was to cover the time of 5:55 PM....Fail. Not in the mood to look further, if someone get's bored, find the temperature at this location for the date of 09/02/10 at 12:30 A.M.....I would be willing to bet it was not 78 degrees. The site that did the investigation either did not bother, or did not catch what they have posted.They have the temperatures....78-80 degrees around 6 P.M....Below 70 after 11:00 P.M. ......Good investigators.....LOL As said, total fake. I think many know I use trail cams, and have started a thread on it that many are contributing on. I can safely say I am positive of above... Edited May 4, 2011 by Sakari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiloh17 Posted May 4, 2011 #15 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You made me go back and look.... 1. Correct, not a apple tree at all.... 2. Not a deer, a dog or Coyote. 3. A gillie suit, the bright areas are where the suit is opened up and not covering everything, the IR picks it up and brightens it.( light colors ) 4. The camera is NOT in the same position it was for the first shots, it is much closer to the road...Unless someone moved the tree it was strapped to, I would say the camera was being held by someone while the other " posed ". 5. Again, the camera took 3 " burst " shots on the first pictures, why only one of the guy in the suit?...Cameras have settings for 3 burst, 6 burst, etc..No need to change from a 3 burst setting to a 1 burst.... As said, total fake. I think many know I use trail cams, and have started a thread on it that many are contributing on. I can safely say I am positive of above... I agree with you. A fake. I noticed camera position too, and story doesn't match pictures. What apple trees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #16 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You made me go back and look.... 1. Correct, not a apple tree at all.... 2. Not a deer, a dog or Coyote. 3. A gillie suit, the bright areas are where the suit is opened up and not covering everything, the IR picks it up and brightens it.( light colors ) 4. The camera is NOT in the same position it was for the first shots, it is much closer to the road...Unless someone moved the tree it was strapped to, I would say the camera was being held by someone while the other " posed ". 5. Again, the camera took 3 " burst " shots on the first pictures, why only one of the guy in the suit?...Cameras have settings for 3 burst, 6 burst, etc..No need to change from a 3 burst setting to a 1 burst.... 6. I can not quite make out the dates on the first set of pics, but the time is later at night, 9 or almost 10 PM....The temperature is 65 degrees....Yet the Gillie suit picture is at 78 degrees, and says 5:55 PM, with a explanation that the time stamp is off...That does not add up at all....Temperatues do not rise during the night, they fall or stay stable...The excuse of the time stamp being wrong was to cover the time of 5:55 PM....Fail. Not in the mood to look further, if someone get's bored, find the temperature at this location for the date of 09/02/10 at 12:30 A.M.....I would be willing to bet it was not 78 degrees. The site that did the investigation either did not bother, or did not catch what they have posted.They have the temperatures....78-80 degrees around 6 P.M....Below 70 after 11:00 P.M. ......Good investigators.....LOL As said, total fake. I think many know I use trail cams, and have started a thread on it that many are contributing on. I can safely say I am positive of above... I agree with you. A fake. I noticed camera position too, and story doesn't match pictures. What apple trees? I edited in more information, good stuff....Proof as some would say.....It is in the quotes above....The temperatures I wrote the site about this, see what they have to say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiloh17 Posted May 4, 2011 #17 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Here's all the temp info etc.. from same web site, plus more pictures (but not of bigfoot) Little thing appears to be a fox. And a Gillie suit challenge for you Sakari http://www.squatchdetective.com/VtTrailCam.htm Edited May 4, 2011 by Realm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #18 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Here's all the temp info etc.. from same web site, plus more pictures (but not of bigfoot) Little thing appears to be a fox. And a Gillie suit challenge for you Sakari http://www.squatchde.../VtTrailCam.htm I wish I had one..... Will ask around ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #19 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) I recieved word back from the site......I see to many holes in their excuses, and feel they are convinced all ready.... Appreciate the effort Robert. But as the investigation has shown, the time on the camera was off. 5:55 there would have been daylight. No daylight in this picture. WE determined the time to be after midnight, after examining the camera which had remain untouched since the photos. Yes the timestamp was wrong. We also did comparison shots using the cameras and, the units temperature was off by 7-8 degrees reading ...warmer) Plus I know the guy personally. Not a BS'er and remains open to any theory yet. We have not ruled out a ghillie suit, however, we estimate the subject to be far bigger than average. 6'8" - 7'2" weighing close to 400-500 lbs. (Plus no one knew the camera was there and it was not hunting season, and usually people running around in ghillie suits have a firearm.) We have not ruled out a owl yet even though we've had Dr. Macabbe state it was close to the ground. These were included in the investigation notes on the page. We appreciate the input however we'd like to point out your arguments have been previously reviewed and addressed. Thanks, Even with their excuses, the temperature would be wrong either way.If it were off, why is it correct on the canine pictures?...And where are the 2 missing pictures from the 3 burst setting it was obviously on?The camera was un-touched?...How did the person see the pictures than? Too many holes...... I asked this, still waiting.... Edited May 4, 2011 by Sakari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertheflow Posted May 4, 2011 #20 Share Posted May 4, 2011 One of the more interesting Bigfoot images, however I have my doubts. At least they seem open to more plausible theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #21 Share Posted May 4, 2011 One of the more interesting Bigfoot images, however I have my doubts. At least they seem open to more plausible theories. Not what I am getting from my communication with them....look back at email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~TheBigK~ Posted May 4, 2011 #22 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Are we still entertaining the possibility that it might be some kind of animal? Cause it really does look to me like the back of an owl that's close to the camera. I know that wouldn't explain the discrepancies in the times and temperatures, but that's just what I'm seeing. I looked to see what kinds they have in Vermont and Barred Owls seemed to come up a lot. Couldn't find a good pic of one flying from behind to compare though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakari Posted May 4, 2011 #23 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Are we still entertaining the possibility that it might be some kind of animal? Cause it really does look to me like the back of an owl that's close to the camera. I know that wouldn't explain the discrepancies in the times and temperatures, but that's just what I'm seeing. I looked to see what kinds they have in Vermont and Barred Owls seemed to come up a lot. Couldn't find a good pic of one flying from behind to compare though. I am still entertaining that idea as well...I am not saying it is a hoax 100%...The temp's are very odd, and the timestamp issue, and also the fact the IR flash has picked up bright spots.( guillie suits have openings all ver )....My biggest sign is there are not other pictures when the camera was on a 3 burst setting 2 nights before.... It could very well be a Owl, kind of like this was a " bigfoot" and said to be a large 400 lb creature....And it is a Crow Edited May 4, 2011 by Sakari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~TheBigK~ Posted May 4, 2011 #24 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It could very well be a Owl, kind of like this was a " bigfoot" and said to be a large 400 lb creature....And it is a Crow Yep, I remember that. I think some people had mentioned that it could have been a black garbage bag too. I think it was that pic anyway, if not it was a similar one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance665 Posted May 4, 2011 #25 Share Posted May 4, 2011 If I had to put money on it I would bet it's an owl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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