What was/is the biggest sea creature ever?

[Dezmond]

I wanted to know what the biggest sea creature is.(or was)

Here something to compare some sea creatures

I first thought the Megalodon, but their are even bigger ones on that picture.

Anyone know it?

[BurnSide]

I think with that picture it's pretty much settled.

To put this into perspective, the one in the bottom right corner, Archelon, was the size of an average sports car.

Where did you get that pic?

[Dezmond]

I searched Google for sea monsters,

http://www.dinosaur.net.cn/_Sea_Monsters/

This the site where I got it.

But I can't read this language??

[BurnSide]

Neither can I. Need a chinese language pack, bah.

very interesting. I had no idea such a creature as the Leedsichthy was known to exist.

[Dezmond]

my neither is has never been found as a complete skeleton, but they think it was around 90 feet as big as the Blue Whale.

And was probably the biggest fish ever....

It has 40,000 teeth and I'm reading more info about the ''leedsichthys'' on Google.

FACT FILE

Type: Ray-finned fish

Size: Up to 27m

Diet: Carnivore

Predators: Liopleurodon, Metriorhynchus, Hybodus sharks

Lived: Late Jurassic, 165-155 million years ago

Edited August 23, 2004 by Dezmond

[BurnSide]

It would have been ALOT bigger than the blue whale.

The Megadolon was about the size of the bluewhale.

[Dezmond]

Maybe this is the creature they saw on that Video in that topic a few weeks ago.

Megalodon was a big preadator and this was probably a big slow fish that tiny eated marine invertebrates.

I't's more likely to still exist.

But that's just a quess.

The Megalodon on my picture is than very small?

Here some more info

"It's by far the biggest and most complete Leedsichthys ever found, which makes it the biggest fish ever found," said Mike Barker, head of paleobiology at Portsmouth University.

Equipped with massive, teeth-lined gills, experts say the creature was probably one the first giant planktivores. A Jurassic version of the baleen whale or basking shark, it would have filtered out huge quantities of tiny shrimp and other marine organisms while cruising over what is now central England.

The Peterborough specimen's estimated length is 22 meters (72 feet)—almost twice as long as a whale shark, the largest fish swimming today. Those working on the fossil reckon the species may have reached sizes to rival the blue whale.

Named after Alfred Leeds, an English farmer who first discovered Leedsichthys problematicus in the late 1800s, "problematicus"reflects difficulties paleontologists had in classifying the species, eventually linking it to an extinct group of bony fishes called pachycormids which had sickle-shaped pectoral fins and forked tails.

Problem Fish

Leedsichthys is proving equally problematical for today's fossil experts. The Peterborough site contains a tangled mass of thousands of fractured bones, making the task of excavation akin to tackling a gargantuan, mud-caked jigsaw puzzle.

"It's far more complicated than digging up a large reptile or a dinosaur," said dig leader Jeff Liston, vertebrate researcher at Glasgow University's Hunterian Museum in Scotland. "Its bones are exceptionally thin, and are crushed by the weight of clay over millions of years. Another problem is that many fish from this family had only limited calcification of their skeleton, so many parts simply do not preserve."

He added: "There's still a stupendous quantity of bones we're trying to get out. The previous biggest specimen, called Big Meg, filled about 20 museum drawers. We've already got almost 120 drawers of material."

In fact, Liston says he felt relieved when his team discovered the fish's tail section was missing, having been quarried out during clay extraction work in the late 1980s. "The last time someone tried to excavate the tail of this animal it came out in just under 10,000 fragments," he said.

Liston and his team estimated the fish's age by examining other fossils and the sediment containing its remains. Tests showed this comprised eight to 10 percent organic material, such as algae and plankton.

This may provide a clue to the sudden extinction of Leedsichthys. Researchers have puzzled over the fact the fish isn't known before the Mid Jurassic period, while no remains have been found later than the early Late Jurassic. One theory is that the fish's evolution was closely linked with a sudden rise in sea levels which engulfed much of Europe. As these plankton-rich seas started to recede, so the fortunes of Leedsichthys also began to ebb.

Extinction Theories

"Nobody's sure quite why it became extinct," said Barker. "But the collapse of the marine ecosystem due to environmental changes must be a leading contender."

Liston puts forward another possibility, linking its demise with the emergence of a brash new breed of bony fishes called teleosts. This group makes up around 95 percent of bony fish living today, including everything from tuna and cod and to halibut and salmon.

Liston believes teleosts would have had a crucial competitive edge over pachycormids due to their reproductive strategy. While Leedsichthys relied on relatively small numbers of well-developed young to perpetuate the species, the newcomers produced huge quantities of small eggs.

"Teleosts start to radiate and diversify at this time," he added. "So imagine a numbers race taking place, where teleosts suddenly become far more successful because there are far more of them, then you can see the pachycormids are going to get edged out."

Once all the remains are removed from the dig site, Liston says it will take many months and even years to piece them back together, with further funding needed to complete the work.

But eventually the world's biggest known fish will be in a fit state to show the public. Provided, of course, they can find somewhere big enough to display it.

Source

BurnSide Here is a nice drawing of A megalodon I found,

http://www.paleocreations.com/images/06_de...r_of_giants.jpg

Picture is a little to BIG.

Edited August 23, 2004 by Dezmond

[BurnSide]

Cool picture, and good information too thank you very much Dezmond. I'm quite intriegued.

[Angelofmercy]

Nice post, thanks for the info...even today there are reports of sharks as big as the megalodon still inhabiting the oceans, i myself go back and forth on the issue depending on the day. But these guys are massively huge, it's hard to even imagine this. Once again thanks for the info!

[Dezmond]

No problem, glad to be of any help.....

But hope someone can post more info about other REALLY big sea creatures,

Theirare probably bigger oens then this Leedsichthys

[LisaMHD]

Heres a pic of Blue Whales I found. The recorded length is said to be up to 30M. Thats nearly 100 ft in length.

[Dancing_Dumplings]

ohhh chinese??? manderin or cantonese? oh wait i remember now... i cant speak/write/read my own damn language!! *blubbers*

if i could i would help ya out there lol wow now im depressed lol

now one question...what the heck is a leedsichthys??? errr nvm lol got the answer

the leedsichthys kind of looks like a shark....just less scary looking...could sharks have evolved from this thing?

Edited August 23, 2004 by Anti_girl17

[BurnSide]

Well, i'm abit of a Giant Squid/Colossal Squid buff myself. These formidable predators grow from 20-60 feet in length and fight Sperm Whales deep sea. I'll give you more info if you like.

[Falco Rex]

Not exactly sure, but I think general consensus is that the Blue Whale is the Largest animal to have ever lived on Earth. At least as far as we know presently. I'm sure we haven't discovered all the fossils of every creature that ever existed yet..

[Panthera leo atrox]

The bootlace worm may be the longest animal ever. I'm not quite sure how long they really get, but I found some info:

"Bootlace Worm ( Lineus longissimus ) . This animal is among the world longest . It may reaach a length of more than 50 metres!"

http://articles.uwphoto.no/oversikter/Mari...ented_Worms.htm

[Talon]

The language is definately Chinese, .cn is the Chinese interent address, and Alta Visata translated it for me when I set it to Chinese... only problem was the translation was literal, so the sentence was all mucked around.

But I found this site on the Leedsichthys Link