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The Liberals once again trying to take back and defend their misplaced words

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That reminds me of a Conan skit.

'Bush riding his bike... falls off'.

That bike hates freedom. Terrorist!!

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The Liberals once again trying to take back and defend their misplaced words

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What are you talking about?

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The Liberals once again trying to take back and defend their misplaced words

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Yeah, they do that a lot.

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Just what I thought. Then you don't agree with us. You 'seem' to sympathize with the terrorists. 

eh? blink.gif

I'm the one who openly says that under my system we would tell the media 'all the terrorists were killed in the conflict' even when we caught some alive, so we could take them to secret military prison and torture for as much information as we like, before shooting them in the head, without the bleeding hearts demanding they have trails and human rights.

I was completely against the UK prisoners from Afghanistan coming back, and couldn't care less if America gave its own detainees from Afghanistan 'fair' trails nor not.

I openly say Hazma and his followers should be put on a plane to America, only for the plane to, in a historical irony, 'be blown up by terrorists', with the non-prisoner crew miraculously surviving.

And this somehow equals sympathy for them. blink.gif

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Talon, you don't understand...

If you aren't a supporter of bush you are a terrorists. If you live in Europe you must be a sympathiser if not a full blown terrorist.

There are already 2 strikes against you, Talon

Terrorists are everywhere. Plotting. scheming.

Well in the mind of some anyway...

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The Liberals once again trying to take back and defend their misplaced words

Panther and babs , please post quotes which show talon's sympathy for terrorists.

i mean come on, babs your insular , illeducated borderline racists attitude towards european countries is unbelievable.

You really believe we're all sitting here around tables plotting the downfall of the messiah...i mean bush.

Come onj I bet youd be shocked if i told you we had running water and electricity.

You describe europe as though we are neanderthals who are beneath you.

You make it out as if we live in a state of lawlessness and are secrelty ruled by a strict muslim government.

Babas you really need to learn about europe. It would only take reading a book.

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I never made such an accusation (find it please!) While you make your suggestive statements about Bush which suggest we feel Bush the second coming (we dont) you claim we make false statements about Europe. I cannot speak for others post and will not but show me where I made a statement regarding Europe! Attack my opinions and beliefs thats fine its called debate but before you put words in my mouth make sure I said them. "If" I did make a statement regarding Europe show it to me so I my say I am sorry. I I claimed Talon felt for terrorist show it to me so I can again say sorry!

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Just what I thought. Then you don't agree with us. You 'seem' to sympathize with the terrorists. ph34r.gif

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Theres that one, for starters.

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It's Babs and others blaming just about everything on liberals and terrorists. BEing that they're one and the same in her opinion. wacko.gif

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Just what I thought. Then you don't agree with us. You 'seem' to sympathize with the terrorists. ph34r.gif

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Theres that one, for starters.

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I again say where do "I" make statements accussed of? If I did I would either back it up or say I was sorry! My name was mentioned as haveing done so when I clearly did not! I can respect any opinion both Babs and others however please do not post that I made statements I clearly did not. Far as Liberal being to balme for things it easy for BOTH sides to accusse the other as I see other blame Bush for something KERRY "supported! So who is to blame? I do NOT agree with Liberals on MOST issues however I have NOT posted that they were terrorist or that they sided with them!

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Where did I accuse "you" of saying anything? I'm not gonna get pulled into a flame war, here. I'm just going to drop the subject.

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Where did I accuse "you" of saying anything?  I'm not gonna get pulled into a flame war, here.  I'm just going to drop the subject.

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Snuff if you thought I meant you I did not I was refering to this post "Panther and babs , please post quotes which show talon's sympathy for terrorists" which names me. It was not you go back a page or so and you will see it. That was remark i was talking about which is clearly NOT you! If you somehow thought it was I am sorry

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What do you mean by this sentence?

The Liberals once again trying to take back and defend their misplaced words
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I don't have an article, but Sky News (the channel, not the site) has just stated that the demands have now changed to a £5 billion ransom.

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5 million rather, plus they agree to sign a peace treaty with Al'Queda, and not to get military involved in Iraq (news flash, they aren't!)

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thats right kill more europeans , especially from countrys who supported you.

Are they stupid ???

Do they not understand what the hell they are doing to themselves???

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They're fanatics, I doubt they really know whats going on. They probably beleive ever country in the world has troops in Iraq.

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yeah i know this is why although i disagree with the war for varying reasons , i still support it in away.

especially after beslan.

I mean france and germany should really understand that they hated us before , during and after the war and with the same level of hatred throughout.

Im beggining to think the war didnt create their hatred , it just gave them a focal point, a ready made excuse.

France and germany and the reast of us europeans must now just stick together.

Its clear they simply just hate us , theres no reasoning with them , no appeasment nothing.

Its terrible and i didnt want to believe it before but they are beyond our reeach now.

We MUST defend ourselves and our children. They have to be shown in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS just what we will do to protect our way of life and our children and that they have made the biggest mistake of their lives in russia, spetmeber the 11'th and madrid.

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France and germany and the reast of us europeans must now just stick together.

Form a Superstate with its own united army. laugh.gif

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wunarmed...you are kidding right?

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i guess what we are seeing is a wakeup call among the moderate left, regardless of social policies etc you guys are finally seeing the threat that is out there? blink.gif

sorry, just reading what wun wrote has kind of left me in a state of disbelief

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wunarmed...you are kidding right?

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i guess what we are seeing is a wakeup call among the moderate left, regardless of social policies etc you guys are finally seeing the threat that is out there?  blink.gif

sorry, just reading what wun wrote has kind of left me in a state of disbelief

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Yes, it is incredible, but wun has changed. original.gif

Talon, thanks for your reply. I needed to know where you stood on this serious matter. (terrorism)

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The French ban on headscarves/skullcaps/crosses/whatever is ridiculous. Wearing a cross or a headscarf does not directly threaten anyone else's freedoms. One of my best friends wears a hijab - am I threatened? Of course not. I'm secure in my religion and she's secure in hers. Other friends of mine wear crosses - do I care? Why should I? Wearing a cross isn't an attempt to convert me. I understand that France is trying to promote secularism, but preventing individuals from expressing their religion in a peaceful, non-threatening way is not the answer.

Besides that, the hijab isn't even a religious symbol. It's actually a cultural one. The Quran doesn't require women to wear them - it's simply an Islamic tradition. So in all actuality, the French aren't banning the hijab as a religious symbol. They can claim that they are, but anyone who's actually done their research on the hijab knows it's not a religious requirement. It's clothing, for chrissakes - no different than if I wanted to wear, say, a trenchcoat or platform shoes.

When one sees someone wearing a hijab or a cross, yes, they do know what religion they are. But who cares? Is there something wrong with knowing what religion an individual is? How is this threatening France's secularism?

I would have a problem if schoolchildren were using their crosses and hijabs to go around converting their peers. But that's not what's happening, and everyone knows it. I don't know what the hell is wrong with the French government right now, but they need to fix it quick or their so-called "secularism" is going to go down the drain. It's a scarf. There are so many more important things to be crusading against right now. Preventing Muslim schoolgirls from wearing a damn scarf is only going to make them despise their government.

Oh, and, notice how the law bans large crosses. Children can wear small ones. How fair.

Wow, this French ban would be a good subject in the debate threads.

The French should be working on promoting tolerance of minorities instead of trying to prevent schoolchildren from recognizing what religion their peers are.

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