The Rise of Christian Terrorism in Europe

[Mainpoint]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989

This is a huge problem facing the world and is looking to spiral out of control .

[Abramelin]

Yeah, Christian terrorist groups are on the rise.

Now think about why that could be happening.

Personally I despise every fundamentalist (religious) organisation, whether they are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, communist, Maoist, or anything.

Fundamentalist to me means nothing but having a tunnel-vision, too stubborn to view things from another perspective, too dumb to think for oneself, and believing anyone with slightly more education shouting slogans into ones ears.

[hetrodoxly]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989

This is a huge problem facing the world and is looking to spiral out of control .

Hahaha, "The Rise of Christian Terrorism in Europe" for England it uses the "The gunpowder plot" of 1604, news is a bit slow on reaching your part of the world?

[Mainpoint]

Hahaha, "The Rise of Christian Terrorism in Europe" for England it uses the "The gunpowder plot" of 1604, news is a bit slow on reaching your part of the world?

I have to admit that was somewhat funny you should read the second part.

Edited August 3, 2011 by Mainpoint

[Mr.United_Nations]

Is this like WW2 or Roman Empire?

[Mainpoint]

Is this like WW2 or Roman Empire?

You are forgeting the whole medieval period. These people want to plunge Europe back to the dark ages.

[EllJay]

You are forgeting the whole medieval period. These people want to plunge Europe back to the dark ages.

Luckily we have a major force of Muslims who are here to bring us rationality and good sound scientific reason through Islam.

[Mainpoint]

Luckily we have a major force of Muslims who are here to bring us rationality and good sound scientific reason through Islam.

so why you blame muslims they are a minority? you think you are safe if there are going to be gun trotting neo-templars running around

[meryt-tetisheri]

You are forgeting the whole medieval period. These people want to plunge Europe back to the dark ages.

Like what the Salafis are doing in Egypt now, demanding not only the application of Sharia but also Hudud in a country where, minimum, 40% of the population live under the poverty line, high illiteracy rate, and a police tradition of faking charges?

I think the key word in this, and some similar threads, is INTEGRATION; which would help ease the situation for both sides, in Europe. One cannot fairly discuss the rise of extreme right movements without mentioning what is honestly seen as provocative behavior of some second and third generation immigrants, and the political powers which use religion to radicalize them for their own reason. One cannot accept accusing the Dutch for example of being 'pretend' freedom lovers, without first accepting that they might have legitimate grieviances. It's not black versus white! Foreign bodies inside a human body may cause severe inflammation ( sorry for the simplistic analogy)!

In my opinion, unless integration efforts are taken more seriously, things can only get worse.

[WoIverine]

Christian terrorist groups, that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm going to make this very clear so everyone can easily understand and follow along.

If someone is a terrorist of any kind, THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN! End of story, no ifs, ands, or buts! I don't care what they say they are, THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN!

By now, anyone with half a brain knows that Christ DID NOT walk around telling people to commit acts of violence, kill, lie, cheat, or destroy! Anyone who does those things, whatever they call themselves is IRRELEVANT AND DOES NOT MATTER!

WTF is going on today?! I swear there has to be some kind of common sense black hole spiraling in full force!

Edited August 4, 2011 by Spid3rCyd3

[Paracelse]

Like what the Salafis are doing in Egypt now, demanding not only the application of Sharia but also Hudud in a country where, minimum, 40% of the population live under the poverty line, high illiteracy rate, and a police tradition of faking charges?

I think the key word in this, and some similar threads, is INTEGRATION; which would help ease the situation for both sides, in Europe. One cannot fairly discuss the rise of extreme right movements without mentioning what is honestly seen as provocative behavior of some second and third generation immigrants, and the political powers which use religion to radicalize them for their own reason. One cannot accept accusing the Dutch for example of being 'pretend' freedom lovers, without first accepting that they might have legitimate grieviances. It's not black versus white! Foreign bodies inside a human body may cause severe inflammation ( sorry for the simplistic analogy)!

In my opinion, unless integration efforts are taken more seriously, things can only get worse.

Key word here is "Integration". Most of the immigrants accuse the locals of racism and others when in fact, they arrive in the EU and want locals to adapt to their way of life: women in garbs dating from the middle ages, forbid eating some food, forbid alcohol, etc... and at the same time getting all the welfare from the state.

[Paracelse]

Apparently christian terrorism doesn't occur only in EU, it in US also:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/70447/christian-pastor-tells-his-congregation-to-boycott-muslim-businesses/

Edited August 4, 2011 by Paracelse

[WoIverine]

Apparently christian terrorism doesn't occur only in EU, it in US also:

http://www.goddiscussion.com/70447/christian-pastor-tells-his-congregation-to-boycott-muslim-businesses/

He's not a Christian.

"So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth." Revelation 3:16

[Paracelse]

He's not a Christian.

"So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth." Revelation 3:16

What part of Christian Pastor is not christian?

[itsnotoutthere]

You are forgeting the whole medieval period. These people want to plunge Europe back to the dark ages.

You're talking about Islam presumably.

Me thinks the apologists for Islam are heaping a whole lot of distraction on this one incident.

Despicable act that it was, he'd have to do it 50 times over to compare it to 9/11

Edited August 4, 2011 by itsnotoutthere

[MichaelW]

so why you blame muslims they are a minority? you think you are safe if there are going to be gun trotting neo-templars running around

Just because they are a minority doesn't mean they are not any less dangerous. The July bombings in London proved that.

These people definately put the word "mental" in "fundametentalism".

[WoIverine]

What part of Christian Pastor is not christian?

He falls into the category of the verse I referenced. If he doesn't realize what he's doing, and correct his behaviour, he will have to answer for it. There are many who preach, but only few who actually believe, and follow.

[Paracelse]

He falls into the category of the verse I referenced. If he doesn't realize what he's doing, and correct his behaviour, he will have to answer for it. There are many who preach, but only few who actually believe, and follow.

In this case we could say that JC wasn't christian either.. by the way have ever read the Great Inquisitor by Dostoevsky it's fascinating.. of course it's a work of fiction but it prove everything is nothing but interpretation.

http://www.amazon.com/Inquisitor-Milestones-Thought-Fyodor-Dostoevsky/dp/0804461252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312469993&sr=8-1

[WoIverine]

In this case we could say that JC wasn't christian either.. by the way have ever read the Great Inquisitor by Dostoevsky it's fascinating.. of course it's a work of fiction but it prove everything is nothing but interpretation.

http://www.amazon.com/Inquisitor-Milestones-Thought-Fyodor-Dostoevsky/dp/0804461252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312469993&sr=8-1

JC never advocated terrorist acts or murder, nor did he tell his followers that thou shalt be a nutjob and kill people.

[questionmark]

JC never advocated terrorist acts or murder, nor did he tell his followers that thou shalt be a nutjob and kill people.

So, what was the fisherman doing with a sword?

[Paracelse]

So, what was the fisherman doing with a sword?

You beat me to it... not too mention the fact some (if not most) of his disciples were called Sicarii, not just Judas (named after a dagger use to cut the throat of their (political) opponents). Furthermore, if I recall the oldest new testaments, a cohorte was send to arrest the man. Why in the world Pilate would send over 800 men to arrest a peaceful man?

Edited August 4, 2011 by Paracelse

[regeneratia]

It was a Christian terrorist that mailed anthrax to people in the US media and the US government.

It was a Christian terrorist that bombed an abortion clinic in Texas.

It was a Christian terrorist that killed Dr. George Tiller, one of my personal heroes.

Homeland Security needs to seriously crack down on them.

The CIA needs to eliminate them.

BTW, it was found that Pat Robertson was funding some Christian terrorists in Africa. Did you ever hear about it in the US press? NOPE!

Edited August 4, 2011 by regeneratia

[WoIverine]

So, what was the fisherman doing with a sword?

Don't know, you tell me.

[questionmark]

Don't know, you tell me.

Surely not cleaning his toenails.

[WoIverine]

You beat me to it... not too mention the fact some (if not most) of his disciples were called Sicarii, not just Judas (named after a dagger use to cut the throat of their (political) opponents). Furthermore, if I recall the oldest new testaments, a cohorte was send to arrest the man. Why in the world Pilate would send over 800 men to arrest a peaceful man?

Overwhelming force has been commonly used against non violent people for centuries. More so even in modern times! Katrina incident(s), Elian Gonzalez, the list goes on and on.

Jesus wielding a sword. Yeah, keep grasping.

Edited August 4, 2011 by Spid3rCyd3