The Rise of Christian Terrorism in Europe

[BoogyMan]

It was a Christian terrorist that mailed anthrax to people in the US media and the US government.

It was a Christian terrorist that bombed an abortion clinic in Texas.

It was a Christian terrorist that killed Dr. George Tiller, one of my personal heroes.

Homeland Security needs to seriously crack down on them.

The CIA needs to eliminate them.

BTW, it was found that Pat Robertson was funding some Christian terrorists in Africa. Did you ever hear about it in the US press? NOPE!

George Tiiler is one of your heros, Yeah right, the man performed partial birth abortions, if the man who killed him had done to him what he did to babies(pull the body out of the mother except the head then stick some scissors up there in the base of the baby's head and mush up it's brains, if that didn't work partial birth abortion doctors let the baby sufficate in a pan of water inside the clinic) You must have such high standards for who you admire. I think he was a sick SOB who got what he gave.

[WoIverine]

George Tiiler is one of your heros, Yeah right, the man performed partial birth abortions, if the man who killed him had done to him what he did to babies(pull the body out of the mother except the head then stick some scissors up there in the base of the baby's head and mush up it's brains, if that didn't work partial birth abortion doctors let the baby sufficate in a pan of water inside the clinic) You must have such high standards for who you admire. I think he was a sick SOB who got what he gave.

This.

[regeneratia]

George Tiiler is one of your heros, Yeah right, the man performed partial birth abortions, if the man who killed him had done to him what he did to babies(pull the body out of the mother except the head then stick some scissors up there in the base of the baby's head and mush up it's brains, if that didn't work partial birth abortion doctors let the baby sufficate in a pan of water inside the clinic) You must have such high standards for who you admire. I think he was a sick SOB who got what he gave.

That is not the procedure that Tiller used. The procedure you mentioned has never really been used. It was invented by a pro-life Dr. to provide shock value to the issue. That questionable Pro-life Dr. succeeded with you, didn't he?

Yes, I adored Tiller.

[regeneratia]

Overwhelming force has been commonly used against non violent people for centuries. More so even in modern times! Katrina incident(s), Elian Gonzalez, the list goes on and on.

Jesus wielding a sword. Yeah, keep grasping.

Jesus would never wield a real sword. That was totally against his teachings. What he wanted to do was cut thru the blindness, the obfuscation that the body has over our soul. He wanted to free the soul from restraints that endoctrination and life's everyday tasks placed on it. He wanted to cut thru the karmic prison that surrounds all of us and free our souls.

Edited August 5, 2011 by regeneratia

[Indiogene]

You are forgeting the whole medieval period. These people want to plunge Europe back to the dark ages.

True, when the Catholic Church ruled empires and kingdoms such as the Holy Roman (actually a collection of German and Italian principalities or nation-states), French and Spanish imposed inquisition policies to eradicate any dissent and heresy from social or cultural life. The reconquista in Spain and Portugal eradicated most of the Jewish community, as well the Moors' introduced religion: Islam from the peninsula by the end of the 15th century. The Protestant reformation put an end to the inquisition policies, by simply acceptance in the idea of religious toleration of Protestant churches.

Edited August 5, 2011 by DeMikeDe

[ShadowSot]

Jesus also taught from the Old Testament, where the God presented there was a vain, jealous, and bloody God indeed.

I'm heading to bed now, but what was the quote?

"I come not as a lamb but as a sword, to set family onto family?"

(I apologise for bastardising the quote.)

I'm looking forward to seeing if there's a double standard that'll be applied between Muslims and Christians.

As for George Tiller, this is the first I've heard of him but a quick google turns this up:

In accordance with Kansas state law Tiller performed late-term abortions, which helped to make him a focal point for anti-abortion protest and violence. Tiller treated patients who discovered late in pregnancy that their fetuses had severe or fatal birth defects. He also aborted healthy late-term fetuses, in cases where two doctors certified that carrying the fetus to term would cause the woman "substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.[/]

So in cases where either the child would not make it, or where the mother was put at risk.

I'm not particularly in favour of abortion myself, but I certainly understand this.

Edited August 5, 2011 by ShadowSot

[Paracelse]

The Protestant reformation put an end to the inquisition policies, by simply acceptance in the idea of religious toleration of Protestant churches.

Heu were did you learn history? Religious toleration was never the protestants' forte. How many people Oliver Cromwell had assassinated/beheaded/poisoned? The 30 years war was what? The hugenots attacking Paris was just a dream? The assassination of Henri the IV de Bourbon was just a invention? OK if you say so.

[Blackwhite]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989

This is a huge problem facing the world and is looking to spiral out of control .

Christian terrorists are NOT a big problem at the moment. Apart from one man - Anders Breivik (who may have been a Christian - like the vast majority of Europeans - but I'm not even sure if he did it in the name of his religion) - I cannot think of any recent terrorist attacks committed by Christians in the name of their religion.

And if there have been any, the numbers pale into insignificance compared to the numbers of terrorist attacks in Europe and around the world in recent years committed by Islamic terrorists.

It is MUSLIM terrorists which Europe and the rest of the world needs to be viligant about at the moment, not Christian terrorists. Europeans countries are much more likely to be attacked by Islamists than by anybody else.

Edited August 5, 2011 by Blackwhite

[questionmark]

Christian terrorists are NOT a big problem at the moment. Apart from one man - Anders Breivik (who may have been a Christian - like the vast majority of Europeans - but I'm not even sure if he did it in the name of his religion) - I cannot think of any recent terrorist attacks committed by Christians in the name of their religion.

And if there have been any, the numbers pale into insignificance compared to the numbers of terrorist attacks in Europe and around the world in recent years committed by Islamic terrorists.

It is MUSLIM terrorists which Europe and the rest of the world needs to be viligant about at the moment, not Christian terrorists. Europeans countries are much more likely to be attacked by Islamists than by anybody else.

That is exactly what Christian, Nationalist, Communist and Anarchist terrorists want us to do, think that they are not a problem and terrorism is all about Muslims.

[Blackwhite]

That is exactly what Christian, Nationalist, Communist and Anarchist terrorists want us to do, think that they are not a problem and terrorism is all about Muslims.

In recent years we have had 9/11, the Bali bombings, the Madrid bombings, 7/7 and many other terrorist attacks around the world. What did all these attacks have in common? They were perpetrated by MUSLIMS in the name of ISLAM.

In that time, how many major terrorist attacks around the world have been committed by Christians in the name of Christianity? You'll find it very difficult to find many, if any at all.

It is ISLAMIC terrorism that Europe, and other places, need to worry about at the moment, not Christian terrorism or Sikh terrorism, or Jewish terrorism, or Hindu terrorism or Zoroastrianist terrorism. It is MUSLIM terrorism that is the biggest danger.

If European governments start concentrating more on an almost non-existent threat of terrorist attacks by Christians in their countries and forget aboyut the very REAL and LIKELY threat of attacks by an Islamist group in their countries then they are playing a very dangerous game indeed.

If you get "offended" by me saying this about your beloved Muslims then I have no regrets. I'm seeing things as they REALLY ARE.

Edited August 5, 2011 by Blackwhite

[Blackwhite]

Heu were did you learn history? Religious toleration was never the protestants' forte. How many people Oliver Cromwell had assassinated/beheaded/poisoned? The 30 years war was what? The hugenots attacking Paris was just a dream? The assassination of Henri the IV de Bourbon was just a invention? OK if you say so.

Any how many Protestants were persecuted and burnt at the stake by the CATHOLIC Queen Mary I of England in the 1550s?

I'd say it was quite a lot.

In fact, the anti-Catholic policies which came about in England, from the reign of Mary I's sister Elizabeth I onwards - policies which led a group of Catholic terrorists to try and attack Parliament in 1605 - were as a result of the Catholic Mary's persecution of Protestants. It was like revenge.

[ShadowSot]

I cannot think of any recent terrorist attacks committed by Christians in the name of their religion.

Off the top of my head I'd count the killing of doctors who do abortions and the attacks on hospitals that offer it.

[Blackwhite]

Off the top of my head I'd count the killing of doctors who do abortions and the attacks on hospitals that offer it.

How many people have been killed over the last ten years as a result of "Christian terrorists"?

I bet it's nowhere near the number killed by Muslim terrorists. They managed to kill over THREE THOUSAND in New York alone.

The British Government, quite wisely, see ISLAMIC terrorists as the biggest threat to Britain at the moment, not Christian or Sikh or Jewish or Hindu terrorists.

And that's because Islamic terrorists ARE the biggest threat to Britain.

[questionmark]

If you get "offended" by me saying this about your beloved Muslims then I have no regrets. I'm seeing things as they REALLY ARE.

Though your funnily skewed glasses.

[ShadowSot]

How many people have been killed over the last ten years as a result of "Christian terrorists"?

I bet it's nowhere near the number killed by Muslim terrorists. They managed to kill over THREE THOUSAND in New York alone.

The British Government, quite wisely, see ISLAMIC terrorists as the biggest threat to Britain at the moment, not Christian or Sikh or Jewish or Hindu terrorists.

And that's because Islamic terrorists ARE the biggest threat to Britain.

Recently? Probably not, I'd have to add everything up.

However within the last century it was a Christian country responsible for one of the greatest horrors done by man.

Here in the States it is rapidly becoming more of a fundamentalist Christan culture, partially in response to he actions of Islamic terrorists.

Also, it seems you've already applied the dual standard I was looking forward to between Muslims and Christians.

[hetrodoxly]

Recently? Probably not, I'd have to add everything up.

However within the last century it was a Christian country responsible for one of the greatest horrors done by man.

Germany? Hitler would have converted to Islam had he lived, surviving SS were smuggled out of Germany to Islam or South America the grand Mufti of Jerusalem who himself had been tried and found guilty (in his absence)at Nuremberg was instrumental in their safe passage many of these Nazis worked with the Muslim Brotherhood.

This thread is a "Straw man" quoting random acts of violence by so called Christians over many many hundreds of years is erroneous and used to divert the flack from violent Muslims,

if you can't post evidence of an active Christian paramilitary group who bomb and kill in the name of christianity you have no argument.

[ShadowSot]

Germany? Hitler would have converted to Islam had he lived, surviving SS were smuggled out of Germany to Islam or South America the grand Mufti of Jerusalem who himself had been tried and found guilty (in his absence)at Nuremberg was instrumental in their safe passage many of these Nazis worked with the Muslim Brotherhood.

This thread is a "Straw man" quoting random acts of violence by so called Christians over many many hundreds of years is erroneous and used to divert the flack from violent Muslims,

if you can't post evidence of an active Christian paramilitary group who bomb and kill in the name of christianity you have no argument.

I don't care about Hitler, personally. The men who followed his orders certainly felt they were good Christians and were proud of the "In God We Trust" they bore on their belt buckles.

Are we to forget all egregious examples of Christianity period, when it has as much claim to be a religion of violence as Islam does.

Bush claimed it was his Christian faith which caused him to attack the wrong country in the Iraq war, did you put him down when he said so?

I'm an atheist, I have no preference. I would rather see religion itself fade away.

[WoIverine]

I don't care about Hitler, personally. The men who followed his orders certainly felt they were good Christians and were proud of the "In God We Trust" they bore on their belt buckles.

Are we to forget all egregious examples of Christianity period, when it has as much claim to be a religion of violence as Islam does.

Bush claimed it was his Christian faith which caused him to attack the wrong country in the Iraq war, did you put him down when he said so?

I'm an atheist, I have no preference. I would rather see religion itself fade away.

Not buying the Bush Christianity thing as an excuse to attack Iraq, not even for a second. I know that's what he said, but whoever actually believes that is severely naive.

Edited August 5, 2011 by Spid3rCyd3

[ShadowSot]

Not buying the Bush Christianity thing as an excuse to attack Iraq, not even for a second.

It wasn't the excuse, the excuse was Al Queda. The continued US presence was justified through his Christian faith.

[questionmark]

It wasn't the excuse, the excuse was Al Queda. The continued US presence was justified through his Christian faith.

Proven by the fact that before the single reconstruction specialist arrived the Christian missionaries were already there:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,443800,00.html

[+HerNibs]

Killed by Christianity

Just as an FYI

You can skip all the other deaths/murders/etc and scroll right down to 20th Century.

Nibs

[Beckys_Mom]

http://en.wikipedia....stian_terrorism

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-14259989

This is a huge problem facing the world and is looking to spiral out of control .

Your first link is a wiki definition of what a Christian terrorist is... the second link is about ONE Christian terrorist....

You had me fooled into thinking there was an article posted about what your thread title reads - Christian terrorist on the rise in Europe?? and its not....

My word.. one Christian terrorist and this must mean Christian terrorism is on the rise

Edited August 5, 2011 by Beckys_Mom

[Beckys_Mom]

It is MUSLIM terrorists which Europe and the rest of the world needs to be viligant about at the moment, not Christian terrorists. Europeans countries are much more likely to be attacked by Islamists than by anybody else.

Yup, we hear more about the Muslim terrorists than anything..

I bet the Irish terrorists are feeling left out these days lol.. We had the IRA, , The Real IRA... The SurREAL IRA... The Diet IRA.. and the I Can't believe it's NOT the IRA? lol

"Suicide bombers?? The Irish terrorists would have called that a mistake...In our day, we used to call you up, have a chat and tell you were the bomb was...we were a better class of murdering b****** in those days " - Patrick Keelty ( Comedian )

Edited August 5, 2011 by Beckys_Mom

[Abramelin]

I was thinking about this all today...

If any Tallbanana (=Taliban) get's in his crazy mind to attack a site in Northern Ireland or Euskal Herria (Basque country) and kill innocent people, heroes as they are, we will be in for a 'party'...

But as long as that doesn't happen, the IRA and the ETA will consider them enemies of their enemies, and thus friends.

[hetrodoxly]

I don't care about Hitler, personally. The men who followed his orders certainly felt they were good Christians and were proud of the "In God We Trust" they bore on their belt buckles.

Are we to forget all egregious examples of Christianity period, when it has as much claim to be a religion of violence as Islam does.

Bush claimed it was his Christian faith which caused him to attack the wrong country in the Iraq war, did you put him down when he said so?

I'm an atheist, I have no preference. I would rather see religion itself fade away.

I said "if you can't post evidence of an active Christian paramilitary group who bomb and kill in the name of Christianity you have no argument" that looks as if this statement was aimed at you, it was meant for the board i do apologize.

I don't think you can separate Hitler and the men who followed his orders.