Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 5, 2011 #1 Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Evidence of tunnels has been found under hundreds of Neolithic settlementsThat so many tunnels have survived after 12,000 years shows that the original network must have been enormous . Read more... *Snip* Some experts believe the network was a way of protecting man from predators while others believe that some of the linked tunnels were used like motorways are today, for people to travel safely regardless of wars or violence or even weather above ground. Edited August 5, 2011 by Still Waters Removed image for copyright reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decro435 Posted August 6, 2011 #2 Share Posted August 6, 2011 The UK is in Europe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted August 6, 2011 #3 Share Posted August 6, 2011 In what way is this supposed to be a 'network'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Gaunt Posted August 6, 2011 #4 Share Posted August 6, 2011 This is the daily Mail, a right wing ultra-nationalist rag, they wouldn't admit the English are the same species as other humans let alone that the UK is in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Voodoo Posted August 6, 2011 Author #5 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) This is the daily Mail, a right wing ultra-nationalist rag, they wouldn't admit the English are the same species as other humans let alone that the UK is in Europe I thought they were Germans once. Edited August 6, 2011 by the L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbo Posted August 6, 2011 #6 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) The UK is an Island ! It is part of Europe but isn't in it...not that difficult to comprehend. The obvious anti-English sentiment here really fits into the piece doesn't it ??? Wouldn't be rednecks posting now would it? Edited August 6, 2011 by philbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbo Posted August 6, 2011 #7 Share Posted August 6, 2011 In what way is this supposed to be a 'network'? Read the article ! Perhaps also buy a dictionary for the correct definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paracelse Posted August 6, 2011 #8 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I thought they were Germans once. and Vikings .. and French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpoonyOne Posted August 6, 2011 #9 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Daniel what are you smoking? The Daily Mail might be Conservative, but as usual the liberals go overboard and almost equate it with the likes of Hitler and the Nazi Party just because it has the interests of middle Britain in mind. It's like me calling The Guardian 'The Ultra Left Wing Communist Front for the liberation of the working man!", it's just ridiculous, by the way, what's wrong with being a nationalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted August 6, 2011 #10 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Read the article ! Perhaps also buy a dictionary for the correct definition. I read it. OK, so those Scottish tunnels are connected with those in Germany and in Turkey.... Right. That's what I mean: no network because these tunnels are not connected. +++ EDIT: Here's a definition of "network": http://www.thefreedictionary.com/network And the important word for today is... CONNECT(ED). . Edited August 6, 2011 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paracelse Posted August 6, 2011 #11 Share Posted August 6, 2011 There are known old tunnels in France also although they were bricked by various governments prior and after WW2. Like the article said, many of those holes were covered at one point of another with a church. There is a church 4 km away from where I live now, called in a town called Mont Bonvillers. Inside the tiny church there is a cement plaque near the altar whereas the rest is made of solid lime stone. I asked the local priest he didn't know why the cement and he assumed it was in need of repair. When I asked him if it could be the entrance of a crypt, he said no there are none. Every XI th century church had a church. I went and asked old local folks and met an aging doctor who said there was a tunnel going from this church to someplace in what is now Luxembourg in one direction and in the other direction going all the way to the castle of Jaulny (where Joan of Arc allegedly died of old age)(opposed to the story she died in the hands of the Britts in 1431) The tunnels was already there prior to the middle ages and no one knows who built it. Heck I'm one of the last knowing of it's existence. http://maps.google.fr/maps?ct=reset The blue line is almost directly above the tunnelI try to post pictures of the church but the system doesn't allow me to.. don't know why they are mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbyte Posted August 6, 2011 #12 Share Posted August 6, 2011 There are known old tunnels in France also although they were bricked by various governments prior and after WW2. Like the article said, many of those holes were covered at one point of another with a church. There is a church 4 km away from where I live now, called in a town called Mont Bonvillers. Inside the tiny church there is a cement plaque near the altar whereas the rest is made of solid lime stone. I asked the local priest he didn't know why the cement and he assumed it was in need of repair. When I asked him if it could be the entrance of a crypt, he said no there are none. Every XI th century church had a church. I went and asked old local folks and met an aging doctor who said there was a tunnel going from this church to someplace in what is now Luxembourg in one direction and in the other direction going all the way to the castle of Jaulny (where Joan of Arc allegedly died of old age)(opposed to the story she died in the hands of the Britts in 1431) The tunnels was already there prior to the middle ages and no one knows who built it. Heck I'm one of the last knowing of it's existence. http://maps.google.fr/maps?ct=reset The blue line is almost directly above the tunnelI try to post pictures of the church but the system doesn't allow me to.. don't know why they are mine Tell us more! you've captured my imagination. this is so cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharma warrior Posted August 6, 2011 #13 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Are we to believe that stone age men were able to tunnel under the english channel? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Rises Posted August 6, 2011 #14 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Interesting article, but more proof is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paracelse Posted August 6, 2011 #15 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Tell us more! you've captured my imagination. this is so cool I have no idea who built those tunnels, Druids were very involved in the region that dealt with Roman way prior to Cesar war of the Gauls. On thing for sure, local Celts mine iron ore they were selling through the entire European. Iron swords were much stronger than bronze. The Senones (local Celts) were more interested in trades than war. There are still many names of Deities found locally. One Fairy named Woivre left her name to a river which became Woevre. So it is possible the Senones built those tunnels. I'm not saying they went under the channel nor that they went from here to Turkey but still those tunnels are very long. Just noticed the map didn't appear properly on my preceding link so I will try again. http://maps.google.fr/maps?ct=rese The blue road indicate 51 kms (about 40 miles) but as mentioned earlier that tunnel goes all the way to present Luxembourg. Edit to add: the first name on the blue road is Briey. The church of Briey was built at the same time the church from Mont Bonvillers (an interesting note next to the church was a Templar Commanderie). Edited August 6, 2011 by Paracelse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenBrain Posted August 6, 2011 #16 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I wouldn't have survived well living in caves, I'm severely claustrophobic, it's the part of my brain that's broken. If I had to hide in a cave to survive, chances are I'd have died young. I am curious though, were these natural caves at first and then connected by tunnels or were they simply tunnels. I they are all tunnels, is it possible that other animals dug part of the tunnels and humans just adapted them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annabis Posted August 6, 2011 #17 Share Posted August 6, 2011 i believe some could have been a part of a well known network of caves but the other half i'd imagine is a natural phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted August 6, 2011 #18 Share Posted August 6, 2011 If anyone finds out the ancient ancestors of the Scots built tunnels to Germany 12,000 year sago, please tell me: that would mean they dug tunnels under the North Sea, or what was then called "Doggerland". Fat chance of course, but hey, they talk about a network. ...sigh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Spartan Posted August 6, 2011 #19 Share Posted August 6, 2011 They are just sensational-ising it with a big bold heading Going underground: The massive European network of Stone Age tunnels that weaves from Scotland to Turkey while towards the end of the article, they do admit.... They do not all link up but taken together it is a massive underground network.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted August 6, 2011 #20 Share Posted August 6, 2011 They are just sensational-ising it with a big bold heading while towards the end of the article, they do admit.... Yeah, and some smarty pants adviced me to look up the definition for "network"... But it's summertime, so within a couple of days we will hear news about Nessie too. Well, this time is must be true, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewerRat Posted August 6, 2011 #21 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) . Edited August 6, 2011 by SewerRat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewerRat Posted August 6, 2011 #22 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I have no idea who built those tunnels, Druids were very involved in the region that dealt with Roman way prior to Cesar war of the Gauls. On thing for sure, local Celts mine iron ore they were selling through the entire European. Iron swords were much stronger than bronze. The Senones (local Celts) were more interested in trades than war. There are still many names of Deities found locally. One Fairy named Woivre left her name to a river which became Woevre. So it is possible the Senones built those tunnels. I'm not saying they went under the channel nor that they went from here to Turkey but still those tunnels are very long. Just noticed the map didn't appear properly on my preceding link so I will try again. http://maps.google.fr/maps?ct=rese The blue road indicate 51 kms (about 40 miles) but as mentioned earlier that tunnel goes all the way to present Luxembourg. Edit to add: the first name on the blue road is Briey. The church of Briey was built at the same time the church from Mont Bonvillers (an interesting note next to the church was a Templar Commanderie). Map still isn't showing right. Are you using the link facility at top right (thing that looks like a chainlink, marked 'lien' in French?) That gives you a proper link to what you're actually looking at. Love to know more about all this and thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAmbag Posted August 6, 2011 #23 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I have a hard time believing this one. It seems to me that there would have to be alot of motivation to create a 'vast network of underground caves'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewerRat Posted August 6, 2011 #24 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Are we to believe that stone age men were able to tunnel under the english channel? Seriously? The Stone Age extended from some 2.5 million years ago up to around 6000BC. Exact definitions vary. Before about 11000 years ago you could walk cross the Channel as sea levels were much lower and the region was a low-lying tundra containing only a river which drained the Rhine and Thames into the Atlantic. I don't know if that lends any support to the notion that Paleolithic man made tunnels between Britain and mainland Europe, but it would have made the task a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted August 6, 2011 #25 Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Map still isn't showing right. Are you using the link facility at top right (thing that looks like a chainlink, marked 'lien' in French?) That gives you a proper link to what you're actually looking at. Love to know more about all this and thanks for posting! I will give you a map: And read the rest here: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=179840&st=720 . Edited August 6, 2011 by Abramelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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