wunarmdscissor Posted September 3, 2004 #76 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Apparently 9 of the hostage takers were arab. IM really beggining to lose my patience. Im tellin you im filled with utter rage now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC09 Posted September 3, 2004 #77 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This is horrible... How can anyone do this? And to children... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DespondentDave Posted September 3, 2004 #78 Share Posted September 3, 2004 All forms or terrorism can be described as evil, but as far as terrorism acts go, this just has to go down as one of the most evil of all. Just what on earth is blowing all those young innocent lives away going to achieve for the Chechen cause? Is this really what some Chechen people want carried out in their name, for the sake of independence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Posted September 3, 2004 #79 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Just what on earth is blowing all those young innocent lives away going to achieve for the Chechen cause? Is this really what some Chechen people want carried out in their name, for the sake of independence? The sad thing is that the Chechens had a lot of sypathy for their plight at the hands of the Russians. However, what support they may of had will have totally evaporated now becuase of the actions of these scumbags. I forsee a lot of innocent Chechens paying the price for this appalling crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsr Posted September 3, 2004 #80 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2357109.stm http://www.russiajournal.com/rus...40570.html http://www.russiajournal.com/new...l?nd=45282 http://www.islamicawakening.com/...ticleID=98 http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/...9FCA9B.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2355419.stm timeline http://www.mapreport.com/countri...chnya.html an update and recap Edited September 3, 2004 by gsr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted September 3, 2004 Author #81 Share Posted September 3, 2004 It ain't over yet - apparently some of the terrorists have taken children as hostages in other places of the city and in school basement. This story appears to be one huge children massacre - non-officialy there are at least 200 deads, most of them children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukie&jim Posted September 3, 2004 #82 Share Posted September 3, 2004 yea--this is just low-life all the way. stinking terrorist deserve a 180grain headake--!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velikovsky Posted September 3, 2004 #83 Share Posted September 3, 2004 I really didn't want to be right on this one However I can understand why the Russian did what they had to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted September 3, 2004 Author #84 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) Official numbers are comming from Moscow: There were 1,200 hostages in the school (and not 200-400 as previously reported). As much as 70% of the hostages were children. The hostages' casualties number is much higher than 150. 8 hours after this battle started, there are still hostages being held and fire continues between Chechen (and possibly more Arabic) terrorists and Russian forces. Edited September 3, 2004 by Erikl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoPar Posted September 3, 2004 #85 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The loss of so many innocent children's lives will make this one of the worst terrorist acts the world has every born witness to. Any and all terrorist should be aware that this has strengthened the resolve of the whole world against terrorists and their sick actions. Many people who were concerned about the plight that terrorist are fighting for will change their minds after this atrocity. I feel for the children lives that were wasted and for the families that must carry on in a world gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollum Posted September 3, 2004 #86 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This has got to be one of the sickest atrocities ever to happen to any country. I am so angry right now after watching this situation unfold. I used to sympathize with the Chechen cause.....NO MORE I tell you, NO MORE!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #87 Share Posted September 3, 2004 You know...it's sad that scum like this, in one fell swoop, can kill any hope their people might have actually had of getting sympathy.... The Russians can now do pretty much anything they want to get these b*******, and the people who organised them, and they're going to recieve all the support in the world. Fighting for a cause is one thing...but threatening a child's life, let alone taking it, makes you the lowest form of filth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted September 3, 2004 #88 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) I just heard the terrorists opened fire on children escaping the school. There are no words! (This is what we are dealing with). Edited September 3, 2004 by Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #89 Share Posted September 3, 2004 From what I've seen, that does indeed appear to be the case, yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollum Posted September 3, 2004 #90 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The Russians can now do pretty much anything they want to get these b*******, and the people who organised them, and they're going to recieve all the support in the world. Fighting for a cause is one thing...but threatening a child's life, let alone taking it, makes you the lowest form of filth... Could'nt have put it better myself Sera. I really did have sympathy for them and at one point in time considered going out to "assist" there cause. But my eyes have been opened to the truth so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #91 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The saddest part is....what these scum did would probably sicken the people they claim to be fighting for...hell, it would probably sicken most of the other radical groups that are fighting for those people... What they did, in the name of the Chechen cause, is kill it. Nobody is ever going to look at that movement again without thinking the word "evil". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted September 3, 2004 #92 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This has gone beyond all boundaries, they are inhuman in my book. The terrorists go for 'shock value'...and I guess that means anything goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted September 3, 2004 Author #93 Share Posted September 3, 2004 The saddest part is....what these scum did would probably sicken the people they claim to be fighting for...hell, it would probably sicken most of the other radical groups that are fighting for those people... 253735[/snapback] Saying this from experience - the other radical groups will probably glorify them as martyrs, and look up to them as great heroes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #94 Share Posted September 3, 2004 the other radical groups will probably glorify them as martyrs, and look up to them as great heroes... I'm not sure about that.... So far, other groups seem to have tried to distance themselves from these scum, and made it clear that they weren't responsible...I think claiming to have organised this, or being seen to support it, would be signing your own death warrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted September 3, 2004 #95 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) I want to kill as many terrorists as possible_ and our country will! Something just came to me_ the terrorists will 'like' this, they 'like' war. As soon as this election is over the US will be back out on the trail. The b******* can't get it done here so they are hitting soft spots all over the globe. (my opinion) KILL KILL KILL....kill the terrorists! Edited September 3, 2004 by Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted September 3, 2004 Author #96 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) As a side comment - what these terrorists have done to those children - not only the massacre itself but their treatment to these children (starving them, not letting them drink anything but their own urinate, and piling them up one above another in hot temperatures of the summer), is as bad as how the Nazis treated their victims. This just reminds me of the pure evil shown by the SS Edited September 3, 2004 by Erikl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #97 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Bab, this attack had absolutely nothing to do with the US, 9/11, or much at all with anything happening in the west....it was an action by a Chechen seperatist group. I would try and take the time to explain to you exactly what their goals were, and why this happened...but quite frankly, I don't think there IS a reason that could possibly explain this. It certainly has ended the movement though....the Russians will (and will have to, politically) need to come after them now, and not stop until they've ensured they'll never suffer anything like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikl Posted September 3, 2004 Author #98 Share Posted September 3, 2004 (edited) Bab, this attack had absolutely nothing to do with the US, 9/11, or much at all with anything happening in the west....it was an action by a Chechen seperatist group. I would try and take the time to explain to you exactly what their goals were, and why this happened...but quite frankly, I don't think there IS a reason that could possibly explain this. Not correct - as you probably heard, half of the terrorists that have been killed were Arabs, Saudis as it is now appeared, from the same region that the Saudi terrorists of 9/11 came. This is far from being solely about Chechnya independence anymore - it's now part of international terrorism. Edited September 3, 2004 by Erikl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted September 3, 2004 #99 Share Posted September 3, 2004 Geez, irony after irony to this...they weren't even Chechens... Must be asked, what on earth do these nut cases think they've achieved by doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted September 3, 2004 #100 Share Posted September 3, 2004 This could get into a political thing , but Sera are you putting different degrees on terrorism? .... and slotting terrorists into their appropriate category? "A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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