stevemagegod Posted January 9, 2014 #1026 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) I would have stood up during vibrations. It's best to start slow. See if you can lift an arm and act as if someone is helping you up. Don't make it sound so easy. Trust me i was only able to move both of my astral arms. Its truly a sensation that you have to get used to before you fully project. I haven't been able to get that same "feel" since then. And believe me i have been working on it for a while now. I just need to remember how i got that stage where i was able to lift my astral arms out of my body in a conscious manner and not in a dream like state. Edited January 9, 2014 by stevemagegod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritWriter Posted January 9, 2014 #1027 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) the only true time I ever truly KNOW that I astral travelled was the time I have mentioned here on several occasions, I was in a parking lot at a mall when I was in my early twenties and left my body and was escorted by a being into space. I was told the mysteries of the worlds and universes and just I was told them they were taken away, I was very very high in the sky and the leaving impression of the incidence was that I was as small as an ant. It was a tell-tell astral traveling experience, I knew where my body was the whole time but at the same time I was out of my body, I travelled out of my body, with a guide and also returned to my body, but I think it could have been more like consciousness rather than physically entering back into my body, although that probably happened as well. Anyway. Sometimes my dreams, or my meditations before I sleep seem like astral traveling, or I am just more lucid I don't know but sometimes it seems like I may be doing what some people call astral traveling, but I know it is not the TRUE TRUE TRUE astral traveling that I have experienced before, it is way to fuzzy like a dream. edit: and it rarely involves me EXITING my body. Only once did that happen (in recent years) and a few times with my arms and even that was long ago. Oh no, twice, one time I crawled out of my body, but it really was like a pushing it meditation, more like a dream. Edited January 9, 2014 by SpiritWriter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted January 9, 2014 #1028 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Don't make it sound so easy. Trust me i was only able to move both of my astral arms. Its truly a sensation that you have to get used to before you fully project. I haven't been able to get that same "feel" since then. And believe me i have been working on it for a while now. I just need to remember how i got that stage where i was able to lift my astral arms out of my body in a conscious manner and not in a dream like state. Hahaha. Well yes, I suppose it is easy for me now. I do remember those days though. Falling through the bed, rolling out then laughing at myself for falling off the bed only the next moment to find myself back in bed, one time I was spinning wildly through the room and could not stop myself, yet another I was stuck at the head whike exiting but my feet were floating up. You should have seen the WTF look on my wife's face when I lept to me feet one morning on top of the bed like mounting a surfboard... Low stance with outstretched arms and eyes wildly peeled open and everything. That one still makes me laugh. I tried to exit while waiting in a hospital once just to have a look around and collapsed miserably on the floor. I had just blown out my knee and was completely incapable of walking and the exit was obviously a failure. I used to consider my experiences closer to bill cosbys ghost dad than any kind of serene mysticism. I don't miss those days, but I have learned that they key is to know when your mind us right or when you are being called, have a solid purpose, and don't stress about it. In altered states everything is a fantastic mirror peaceful surrender is the best way. http://youtu.be/mEcpZebI8OA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janvf Posted January 9, 2014 #1029 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Hello everyone, i've been following this thread since the first post when i was looking up some information about OBE. I'm completely new with all this spiritual work to be honest. But White Crane, Blu3, ProfessorT,… all the other people you have inspired me so much. You are such helpful and smart peoples. I have much respect for you all. So monday i was going to bed (now i know i need to try in the early morning) and said to myself now you're going to try and OBE. So i laid on my back and started to inhale deep and exhale en tried to focus on that, you know it's really hard for me because i have ADD. Maybe someone knows something to help me focus ? And what happened was just some tingling feeling. Then next day i tried it again with the same outcome. Then Wednesday i tried it during the day with some Binaural beats and while i was laying there my eyelids started to move really fast, my heart began to beat the … out of me. But i said to myself keep on focusing on your breath. so i did and i felt like my arms were getting numb. especially my right hand. But further nothing. So i read further upon this thread and i saw many people posting about third eye and crown chraka and meditation. I have no idea on how to begin with this, while i'm writing this now… it's so hard to explain all this and excuse me for my bad english. But i really want to meet my guide, i want to get to know myself better and i want to find inner peace. I also really want to have on OBE so i'm trying everyday but i guess i have to start with normal meditation but i just don't know how to do this and i can search it on google but i feel better if people like you answer my question. Also last time i tried OBE i didn't really feel vibrations i guess but i felt like something happening with my back and sometimes i feel like floating but it lasts only 1 or 2 seconds. Sorry for this wall of text and i don't know if you understand me but it's really hard to type what i feel or think. Thank you in advance. Oh one more thing since i been busy doing this relaxing stuff i have a lot of this tingling feeling in my arms just during the day, is this normal ? Edited January 9, 2014 by Janvf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janvf Posted January 9, 2014 #1030 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Is it okay for me to write my experiences here ? it's just that i don't know you guys but by reading trough this post i feel safe by explaining myself to you guys. and one more thing, if using those binearel beats or what was it called, can you hear the crackling sound or jet sound from the vibrations then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted January 9, 2014 #1031 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Is it okay for me to write my experiences here ? it's just that i don't know you guys but by reading trough this post i feel safe by explaining myself to you guys. and one more thing, if using those binearel beats or what was it called, can you hear the crackling sound or jet sound from the vibrations then ? You certainly can. don't worry about sharing your experiences. It will actually help you. The best thing to do us keep a journal. If you keep n electronic journey simply start your own blog and paste it there. It has helped me tremendously to have a blog sharing these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janvf Posted January 9, 2014 #1032 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Ok thank you White Crane, if you have time could you also look at other thing i posted here please i'm now reading your blog! it's amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 9, 2014 #1033 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Hahaha. Well yes, I suppose it is easy for me now. I do remember those days though. a) How did you get the knack of astral projection ? After how long trying and failing ? b ) What made not be anymore on a plateau ? Edited January 9, 2014 by Astral Seeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted January 9, 2014 #1034 Share Posted January 9, 2014 a) How did you get the knack of astral projection ? After how long trying and failing ? b ) What made not be anymore on a plateau ? It was different for me. I was called out. Once I was exposed to it through guides then I took up intellectually and methodically. I was pushed and pushed until I broke free. Then the learning process of true conscious control which is a tenuous thing anyway took over and still is ongoing I might add. Honestly I attribute my success at to it the the preconditioning I mentioned in the second post if this thread. And I have had some success at getting others to get there, but honestly. I think it's more important to work on the other things, and when you are in the right place things will fall into place. The altered states of consciousness are a funny place. I think people have a tendency to follow "normal" causality and they want to explore, but it really is a journey. Not everyone wants to look deep inside of themselves first, travel alone in a nature for a few days much mess a couple if weeks. If you look back at all Holy men, shaman, true mystics.... They all have this in common. It's not a video game or a course in meditation. I'm not saying everyone needs these things... I don't know that for sure, but I certainly did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 9, 2014 #1035 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Very interesting, thanks a lot. Another one if you dont mind. I told you that when I felt the vibrations I tried to roll on my right side without success. Actually, I imagined I was rolling out. But I read someone saying : "dont imagine you're rolling, just do it : roll over really and this is your astral body which will roll". Is that quote right and then did I do a mistake by just imagining/visualising my astral body roll over insted of just doing it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 9, 2014 #1036 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Would it be possible that astral projection/OBE are related to telekinesis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevemagegod Posted January 9, 2014 #1037 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Would it be possible that astral projection/OBE are related to telekinesis? I've all ready thought of that dude. You should browse through some of my previous entries on this thread try going back about 20 pages. If it is related then my initial theory is that its only when you are in a deep meditative trance state and can freely move around your astral arms and have opened your third eye. Of course this is only a theory so i have no proof what so ever as i only came up with this theory when my astral arms felt exactly like my real ones so it made me wonder. Edited January 9, 2014 by stevemagegod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klhayes62 Posted January 10, 2014 #1038 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I am new to this site, just found it today. I have had this strange experience during near sleep or near waking nearly all my life. I have always thought this electrical type sensation in my head was something that if I could give into it, maybe astral projection. Yesterday for the first time I felt that sensation and I focused and concentrated through my terror. The sensations were scary--electrical sensation, rushing sound, loud voices, windy or blowing, and my body seemed to be shaking. I was aware of my dog making noises in his sleep so I know I wasn't dreaming. I went several places and remember distinctly. I crossed the ocean and some men were talking about Eton or Eaton and a war memorial. I thought they were talking to me but perhaps I just heard them. Afterwards I looked this up and there is a town Eaton, with Eton school and it has a war memorial. I had no way of knowing that. I also asked to go to Villisca--it's a town in Iowa where in the 1800's a family and two girls were murdered. I asked to go back in time to that house and it felt like I was flying, my hands were in front of me. I found myself moving through the wall of the house and right inside the door. I demanded to see the killer and in the corner to my left was a floating black swirling mass that didn't have human shape. Could I really have gone there? Would the killer be seen like that since he is long dead? An evil spirit? I was exhausted when I got up--like I hadn't slept at all and I'd been laying down for 4 hours which I was surprised about. The rushing noise like I was near a tornado and hearing voices and my voice saying "show me who you are" I could hear clearly. Anyone else try to travel back in time? Is it possible? I've been to that house in the last 3 years once--they have tours of it and yesterday during my visit there was grass on the lawn and the house looked great--not nearly falling down like it does now. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted January 10, 2014 #1039 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I've all ready thought of that dude. You should browse through some of my previous entries on this thread try going back about 20 pages. If it is related then my initial theory is that its only when you are in a deep meditative trance state and can freely move around your astral arms and have opened your third eye. Of course this is only a theory so i have no proof what so ever as i only came up with this theory when my astral arms felt exactly like my real ones so it made me wonder. I may have to dabble in this one I can fully project. Since astral projection is getting your conscious out of your body, it would make sense that PK/TK would work the same way. Projecting your conscious onto an object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 12, 2014 #1040 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm getting p***ed. Same scenario occuring : I'm laying in my bed for 1 hour, 1,5 hour, 2h sometimes. I'm relaxed, not wandering with my mind but nothing happens ! No vibration, not even an ounce of feeling that my astral body is about to exit, no nothing. Even if I hear my body snoring (which happens sometimes) NOTHING HAPPENS. Am I doomed or what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted January 12, 2014 #1041 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Would it be possible that astral projection/OBE are related to telekinesis? I can't say that I have ever moved an object physically. I'm not sure how this woukd be done. Now I can say with some solid certainty that story's of personal levitation, even mystical flight are probably related but the story's have probably been embellished or misunderstood by people repeating them, so I woukd not be surprised if it were something like that. The density of energy required to move objects physically is simply tremendous. In my opinion Spirits and guides don't make things happen in the same way that you or in do. To understand this you have to think from a higher perspective dimension. Imagine looking down on a model town. The people in the town can only see around the corner, but you can see the bigger picture and quite further down the street. Imagine the synchronous things you could accomplish if you had some little power over the little people in this town and understood how to line up particular sets of dominos. A good example if this happens in the move "Minority Report." I'm getting p***ed. Same scenario occuring : I'm laying in my bed for 1 hour, 1,5 hour, 2h sometimes. I'm relaxed, not wandering with my mind but nothing happens ! No vibration, not even an ounce of feeling that my astral body is about to exit, no nothing. Even if I hear my body snoring (which happens sometimes) NOTHING HAPPENS. Am I doomed or what ? Morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 12, 2014 #1042 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) during nap times usually (either when I go to sleep or when I wake up from nap time already relaxed) or in the end of the afternoon when I have some time to try a new attempt. It's 6:15pm now. I took a nap at 2pm, tried and fail then fell alseep. Then I woke up at 5pm and since I felt VERY relaxed just waking up from the nap I put myself on my back (my comfortable sleep position is on my belly) and focused on my breath counting from 0 to 100. Then I focused on the blackness of my eyelids. I arrived to a point where I didnt feel my body at all. Attempt lasted more than 1 hour and nothing. I dont understand since that waking up from a nap my body is already relaxed and I dont have any wandering thoughts, so it should be a shortcut and I should get to the treshold ! Seriously this is getting ******* boring because I put a TON of hard work every ******* day ! It's been 2 months now. I'm uber p***ed. This is not fair. I've a good soul. I'm a good person. I have important spiritual projects hence my hard work and reason why I dont give up. I asked help to spirits in these endeavors while showing good will and hard working behaviour (so I'm not asking something to spirits without putting effort in the task). My efforts should get granted and I dont progress ! Edited January 12, 2014 by Astral Seeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Crane Feather Posted January 12, 2014 #1043 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) during nap times usually (either when I go to sleep or when I wake up from nap time already relaxed) or in the end of the afternoon when I have some time to try a new attempt. It's 6:15pm now. I took a nap at 2pm, tried and fail then fell alseep. Then I woke up at 5pm and since I felt VERY relaxed just waking up from the nap I put myself on my back (my comfortable sleep position is on my belly) and focused on my breath counting from 0 to 100. Then I focused on the blackness of my eyelids. I arrived to a point where I didnt feel my body at all. Attempt lasted more than 1 hour and nothing. I dont understand since that waking up from a nap my body is already relaxed and I dont have any wandering thoughts, so it should be a shortcut and I should get to the treshold ! Seriously this is getting ******* boring because I put a TON of hard work every ******* day ! It's been 2 months now. I'm uber p***ed. This is not fair. I've a good soul. I'm a good person. I have important spiritual projects hence my hard work and reason why I dont give up. I asked help to spirits in these endeavors while showing good will and hard working behaviour (so I'm not asking something to spirits without putting effort in the task). My efforts should get granted and I dont progress ! You probably need a break. do some reading. Look up Robert Monroe and Robert Bruce. Get their books and take a step back back. Edited January 12, 2014 by White Crane Feather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bLu3 de 3n3rgy Posted January 12, 2014 Author #1045 Share Posted January 12, 2014 This is not fair. I've a good soul. I'm a good person. I have important spiritual projects hence my hard work and reason why I dont give up. I asked help to spirits in these endeavors while showing good will and hard working behaviour (so I'm not asking something to spirits without putting effort in the task). My efforts should get granted and I dont progress ! Uh what spirits have you asked to help or have help from ? Why should your efforts be granted ? I don't know if it's what you have been doing but you don't make deals with spirits to grant you things. You are opening yourself up for a can of worms otherwise, it doesn't matter if you think you are doing it for goodwill reasons, benevolent spirits will not break the universal law of freewill or interference. Making deals and expecting to be granted things in your efforts is not how benevolent spirits or guides work. You make the intention to invite your guides in and then your guides will work with you when you ready. How is that deemed ? guides make that decision based on you. In quoting avatar "you are a baby" and you need to go back to taking baby steps and learn to master your ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 12, 2014 #1046 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) In my world good guys deserve good things, and hard work deserves result. Period. Besides, my HGA showed up to me 2 months ago. HGA appears when you're ready. Reason why I work hard since then. Ego has nothing to do, you missunderstood my point. Last point : spirits are interested in service for them - whatever form this service is - more than anything else. Edited January 12, 2014 by Astral Seeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLu3 de 3n3rgy Posted January 12, 2014 Author #1047 Share Posted January 12, 2014 What does HGA stand for ? Ego has everything to do with it, getting angry, getting frustrated because it hasn't happened for you or been granted to you yet is a ego response. Not a higher self one. I will agree with you that hard work deserves results - but good guys deserving good things - unfortunately this world does not work like that Who told you that spirits are interested in service and what service are you using them for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 12, 2014 #1048 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) HGA stands for Holy Guardian Angel. If you'd been into magick you'd know what I'm talking about. I was just saying. This thread is about AP so better stay on topic. And yeah, I've learn to know that good guys dont always get good things, but I'm still hoping ! Edited January 12, 2014 by Astral Seeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLu3 de 3n3rgy Posted January 12, 2014 Author #1049 Share Posted January 12, 2014 HGA stands for Holy Guardian Angel. If you'd been into magick you'd know what I'm talking about. I was just saying. This thread is about AP so better stay on topic. Now that is ego talking someone else had to ask you a few pages back what terms you were using and it is only acceptable that people can do this to understand one another. We all come from differing backgrounds and some things have different names for things. I can also tell you what this thread is about since i started it for the community. It's the astral projection FAQS thread and it is a sharing hub for everyone, novice to advanced who wish to share, discuss and help with anything pertaining to astral projection and alt consciousness. We are on topic because you brought up your frustration and difficulties as to why you were struggling. You brought up the thing about using spirits and i am wanting to hear what the spirits are being used for. Btw i started out as a medium, and was mediumistic as a child. This was my route into astral projecting and i have been astral projecting and working through my higherself, for quite a number of years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astral Seeker Posted January 12, 2014 #1050 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Being introduced to my HGA has been a blessing and HGA only appears when you're ready. I already told previously that since then I felt compelled to pursue the work, reason why I'm working hard for 2 months on astral projection and lucid dreaming (since the latter can be a gateway to the astral realm). Spirits appreciate "good human qualities" but not the the extent some people would like to make people believe. Spirits are interested by service. Even the most benevolent spirits do wish things in return of their action/blessings. There is no free parking places or open bar in the spirits world. And "good"/"bad", and "angels are all good" and "demons are all evils" is christian or new age BS. Truth is far more complex than that. Seems that you've been naturally bestowed and astral projection was a natural step in your development. Congratz on that. I might try too hard and as said the other skilled and famous member of that forum maybe I have to take a short break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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