Astral Projection FAQs & Techniques Thread

[White Crane Feather]

@whitecranefeather I don't know why I stopped getting notifications for this post, oh well. My Sensei is extremely traditional and focuses on the martial "art" rather than the martial "sport" that we see so much of today. He focuses on "level two" or the deeper meaning behind techniques, not just force and strength. I feel it helps with mindfulness and meditation, since our whole workout is a physical meditation. Back to topic--

After having taken a long break from meditation and AP, my body and mind feel like it's the right time to start getting back into it. Can anyone give a recommendation / regimen that is particularly helpful or successful to them? I'm in a really good place physically and emotionally now (I was very ill for a long time and lost 30 pounds. I just gained it back) and would like to start progressing spiritually again

Spiritual progress for me has nothing to do with with this. This is personal awareness work. Spiritually I feel your focus should be on others. Never self. But awareness can help with this. You have to look back at the original tutorials. The biggest stumbling block is ways a lak of discepline with the early morning method. This phenomenon is closely related to the inbetween places of rem and hypnogogia. It's best to be close to these sub levels of conciousness to ride the margins.

Edited November 11, 2015 by White Crane Feather

[Admiral Naismith]

I usually agree with you, but I feel I must disagree a tad here. I think that the physical and spiritual are closely related. The body in where the spirit lives, after all. If someone is too tired with work or too sick or whatever, it can hinder spiritual things, I think. I suppose some get sick and find they are more spiritual...but that wasn't the case for me.

That's a small point though. I appreciate your reminder to focus on others, not the self. I'll give the morning regimen a go again cheers! (Also, as an aside, I'm up or promotion to fourth kyu in two weeks. I'm excited!)

[Horta]

They are not technically placebos Horta. They are simply tools to get the mind into the right places. That's why there are so many techniques because people are very different. No one actually thinks they are climbing a rope. It's just a tool. Writing them off because you are skeptical of people's motives is not helpful. Yes lots of fakers out there that are simply parrots, but they do not represent the tools themselves. If something works then it's good reguardless of why. The why is terribly more complicated and a hall of mirrors to exsplore.

Still, if anyone tries to sell this phenomena or specific techniques as part of some new age "spiritual advancement/religion" or as part of some claimed "quasi eastern mysticism/ martial art", it's worth being very sceptical. The phenomena can be experienced by anyone, something that many new age charlatans take advantage of. A harmless phenomena in itself, yet can be misrepresented and has also featured prominently as a practical element in support of the dogma of many groups, including brainwashing cults. With that caveat, whatever works for you, is what works for you.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Horta

[Admiral Naismith]

Well, so you have to be careful about charlatans marketing these things, but it's pretty verifiable that something is going on in people's brains when they meditate, or whatever. Something is happening that people don't really understand. Sure, people capitalize and monetize it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's there. The only reason it's associated with eastern mysticism is because they noticed it first, and wrote about it, going back hundreds and thousands of years. Just read the Vedas.

So yes, be careful, but these are phenomenons that are real, whatever that means.

[blurry]

If someone takes lessons from said charlatan, should I tell them their belief is misplaced? It's their money and responsibility, and nothing that I say or do can change them.

Just my two cents

[Admiral Naismith]

Just because it's coming from someone who has monetized it (aka charlatan) does not mean that what is happening to them is un-real or in any way inferior.

Lets say I study ancient eastern culture and I meditate and it changes my life for the better.

Lets say someone finds a book called "how to meditate" by A.Charlatan, and they learn how to meditate and it changes their life for the better.

Our two experiences are no different, though one involved money and the other didn't. It doesn't make their belief "misplaced."

[ImmortalLegend527]

I have been Astra ling for the last 15 years; I took 3 years off because I had a very bad experience with astralers that were way more advanced then me.

I learned to realm jump to the past and the future as well, it takes over 200 times in the course of 12 days to get in some times, some times longer.

I use a mirror sometimes which is faster but the trip is rugged to say a little jumpy and some times to fast.

Other times I would use water well with water in it, which is faster, but some times I feel like im drowning and I would quickly lose concentration.

I had 5 locations that I use to astral in to get information, they started using cats and grasshoppers to break down the astral field… one hot spot I use to go to started using chimes and bells…and some use the astral assassin squad.. I wish I could be like them, or the bag lady or the green eyed Russian, they legends in the realms of Astra ling.

I just graduated 3 months ago from a school that took me 13 years to complete that sole enhanced the abilities of doors that can be opened ’ of more then just Astra ling.

I learned to dream jump from an amazing encounter.

I had a dream that a giant clown was blowing bubbles at me and every time the bubble would catch me, I would feel like I’m litterly suffocating. Repeatedly and over again I lost count after about the hundredth bubble, it was one of the most terrifying dreams in my whole life.

Later on that night, im down stairs n a lounge and a woman just keeps looking at me and just starring at me. Therefore, after the event was over she came to me and said.

I know you have noticed that ive been starring at you and im so sorry but you look like a person in a dream I had last night.

It was so funny, I was this big giant clown and I just kept capturing who ever it was with these giant bubbles…it was so funny!

After realizing, that dreams can interact with each other it opened up another door in which I do not understand and it is very hard to explain.

I started far seeing 3 months ago I am trying to really understand how that works because it is with the eyes open.

I break out of all my gifts and it takes me longer then most because of speed, I hate going fast, even in cars on the free way, I hate going over 45-mph.

Can you teach me how not to fear speed so I might get in like every body else.

I will say this ,I realm jumped into space one time…and the energy is so smooth and pure like ,a billion times faster then the rest but it’s a billion times smother. That was the best 13 to 18 seconds of my life I never felt energy like that ever I swear!

[Horta]

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Edited December 2, 2015 by Horta

[Horta]

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Edited December 2, 2015 by Horta

[White Crane Feather]

Still, if anyone tries to sell this phenomena or specific techniques as part of some new age "spiritual advancement/religion" or as part of some claimed "quasi eastern mysticism/ martial art", it's worth being very sceptical. The phenomena can be experienced by anyone, something that many new age charlatans take advantage of. A harmless phenomena in itself, yet can be misrepresented and has also featured prominently as a practical element in support of the dogma of many groups, including brainwashing cults. With that caveat, whatever works for you, is what works for you.

Agreed. No dogmas needed. Technique on the other hand is helpful. Also keep in mind that an aversion and animosity to what you perceive as fake or not real wether it be methos or method, is in itself a form of dogma. Indeed you may consider a particular religion or new age beleif not real, fake, dofmatic, or even orchestrated by a charlaton, and you may be right, but you don't really know either. No one does. That's the beauty of the great mystery. But yes, it's prudent to come to your own conclusions and not be a follwer of simple charisma.

Edited December 2, 2015 by White Crane Feather

[White Crane Feather]

I have been Astra ling for the last 15 years; I took 3 years off because I had a very bad experience with astralers that were way more advanced then me.

I learned to realm jump to the past and the future as well, it takes over 200 times in the course of 12 days to get in some times, some times longer.

I use a mirror sometimes which is faster but the trip is rugged to say a little jumpy and some times to fast.

Other times I would use water well with water in it, which is faster, but some times I feel like im drowning and I would quickly lose concentration.

I had 5 locations that I use to astral in to get information, they started using cats and grasshoppers to break down the astral field… one hot spot I use to go to started using chimes and bells…and some use the astral assassin squad.. I wish I could be like them, or the bag lady or the green eyed Russian, they legends in the realms of Astra ling.

I just graduated 3 months ago from a school that took me 13 years to complete that sole enhanced the abilities of doors that can be opened ’ of more then just Astra ling.

I learned to dream jump from an amazing encounter.

I had a dream that a giant clown was blowing bubbles at me and every time the bubble would catch me, I would feel like I’m litterly suffocating. Repeatedly and over again I lost count after about the hundredth bubble, it was one of the most terrifying dreams in my whole life.

Later on that night, im down stairs n a lounge and a woman just keeps looking at me and just starring at me. Therefore, after the event was over she came to me and said.

I know you have noticed that ive been starring at you and im so sorry but you look like a person in a dream I had last night.

It was so funny, I was this big giant clown and I just kept capturing who ever it was with these giant bubbles…it was so funny!

After realizing, that dreams can interact with each other it opened up another door in which I do not understand and it is very hard to explain.

I started far seeing 3 months ago I am trying to really understand how that works because it is with the eyes open.

I break out of all my gifts and it takes me longer then most because of speed, I hate going fast, even in cars on the free way, I hate going over 45-mph.

Can you teach me how not to fear speed so I might get in like every body else.

I will say this ,I realm jumped into space one time…and the energy is so smooth and pure like ,a billion times faster then the rest but it’s a billion times smother. That was the best 13 to 18 seconds of my life I never felt energy like that ever I swear!

All of that sounds interesting, but I think you should focus more on simple control. Basic meditation and awareness. I went through your stage aswell, my shadow was represented as a clown aswell. If you flit all over the place like that without calming down and gaining a measure of control all sorts of issues will start to manifest. Learn to walk before you run. Trust me. The depths of your mind and the other side of reality is not something to be taken lightly. There is discovery and revelation there, but there is also maddness. Be carefull and let me know how I can help.

[ImmortalLegend527]

All of that sounds interesting, but I think you should focus more on simple control. Basic meditation and awareness. I went through your stage aswell, my shadow was represented as a clown aswell. If you flit all over the place like that without calming down and gaining a measure of control all sorts of issues will start to manifest. Learn to walk before you run. Trust me. The depths of your mind and the other side of reality is not something to be taken lightly. There is discovery and revelation there, but there is also maddness. Be carefull and let me know how I can help.

Can you explain what control means to you?

What do you mean by awareness?

Revelation Huh...interesting!

So many world powers are using super doped up astralers to do what they do, so I am always careful, I might do it 3 to 5 times a year, I’m not like every one else, the speed is to much sometimes.

Teach me to control the speed, how do you do it what is your method?

[White Crane Feather]

Can you explain what control means to you?

What do you mean by awareness?

Revelation Huh...interesting!

So many world powers are using super doped up astralers to do what they do, so I am always careful, I might do it 3 to 5 times a year, I’m not like every one else, the speed is to much sometimes.

Teach me to control the speed, how do you do it what is your method?

How old are you?

[CelticBanshee]

Gonna leave this same comment I left on another similar thread.

I believe in the genius of dreams, I'm a guitarist and I believe that if I can become lucid I might see the fretboard in a different way, or create music in a different way, basically becoming more creative. The problem is I can't become lucid. If I try to meditate long enough I feel the vibration of my pineal gland but I can never silence my mind completely, I do realise my dreams are more vivid when my pineal gland vibrates before sleep but I can never achieve out of body.

Tell me of your experiences of Astral Projection, are the Akashic records real? What are they, and give me some juicy info on all of this that might entice me to keep trying Genuinely curious and really want to be able to do it.

Thanks

[White Crane Feather]

Gonna leave this same comment I left on another similar thread.

I believe in the genius of dreams, I'm a guitarist and I believe that if I can become lucid I might see the fretboard in a different way, or create music in a different way, basically becoming more creative. The problem is I can't become lucid. If I try to meditate long enough I feel the vibration of my pineal gland but I can never silence my mind completely, I do realise my dreams are more vivid when my pineal gland vibrates before sleep but I can never achieve out of body.

Tell me of your experiences of Astral Projection, are the Akashic records real? What are they, and give me some juicy info on all of this that might entice me to keep trying Genuinely curious and really want to be able to do it.

Thanks

Some bleieve they are. What they call it is different. Universal conciousnes, akashic records, melding with everything, God, the Tao. Pick your label. You can avheive the state through surrender. But what I think you are looking for is an open state of conciousness. Yes on a number of ocasions I have been in a place where I wrote entire songs, screen plays, books, and invented wonderful business plans all in a matter of moments. A place a pure and instant creativity. The source of creativity perhaps. I would say it's just below vibrations. As if you entered vibration maintained awareness but did not exit but turned your thoughts inward.

There are some problems. It's extremely difficult to come back with all the information you have created/gleamed. It's not locked into memory very well. When you come to normal conciousness it's fading with every seccond. You have to lunge at your note pad and start writting everything you can. Don't worry about grammar or form or anything. Get it out as soon as possible because it's going to be gone. It's a flow and it's going to pass.

The other problem is intent. In these depths it's hard to maintain your intention to do all this. The necessary ego dissolution eliminates those those kinds of desires. The best thing to do is to keep it on your mind and your note pad ready at all times. It may be possible to get there consistently and remember, but I have not acomplished that. Things I have taken back are incredible and succesful but if I could do it all the time, I would change the world.

Edited December 5, 2015 by White Crane Feather

[Nic727]

Hi,

After two months of trying, I stopped... I don't know why, but nothing work to get AP.

Also, I never remember my dreams (if I dream lol).

I want to see my guide if he exist. He never give me a sign... Or maybe everything is fake on this forum?

[preacherman76]

Hi,

After two months of trying, I stopped... I don't know why, but nothing work to get AP.

Also, I never remember my dreams (if I dream lol).

I want to see my guide if he exist. He never give me a sign... Or maybe everything is fake on this forum?

Been there Nic. Didn't happen for me till I stopped trying at all. Even then it was several months later. Now it doesn't happen at all any more. You are almost better off. Once it happens, you become obsessed. Now I have an obsession that I cant fulfill. Like having an ich you cant scratch.

[preacherman76]

Oh man great news, for me anyway. Got a small vib today waking up from a nap. Not enough to get out, but at least it was something. Its been months. Crossing fingers hoping its progress.

[CelticBanshee]

But can anyone actually bring back information? If this place is real can you not answer some of the top questions scientists have, wow the world with how you figured it out, then tell them it's AP? Things like that which haven't happened make me doubt it entirely and just like some guy above me said, we've tried with no luck so it's all probably B.S. If it's real then why doesn't the entire planet know and why doesn't science genuinely look into it. Does seem like a bit of baloney even though of course I'd like to believe otherwise.

[preacherman76]

But can anyone actually bring back information? If this place is real can you not answer some of the top questions scientists have, wow the world with how you figured it out, then tell them it's AP? Things like that which haven't happened make me doubt it entirely and just like some guy above me said, we've tried with no luck so it's all probably B.S. If it's real then why doesn't the entire planet know and why doesn't science genuinely look into it. Does seem like a bit of baloney even though of course I'd like to believe otherwise.

Well to me, whether or not it's real isn't relevant. It feels real. Heck at times, in comparison it feels like this reality is the dream.

Edited December 9, 2015 by preacherman76

[Davros of Skaro]

But can anyone actually bring back information? If this place is real can you not answer some of the top questions scientists have, wow the world with how you figured it out, then tell them it's AP? Things like that which haven't happened make me doubt it entirely and just like some guy above me said, we've tried with no luck so it's all probably B.S. If it's real then why doesn't the entire planet know and why doesn't science genuinely look into it. Does seem like a bit of baloney even though of course I'd like to believe otherwise.

If you want to believe it's real, then it's real.

[ImmortalLegend527]

How old are you?

Very very not to old why?

[White Crane Feather]

But can anyone actually bring back information? If this place is real can you not answer some of the top questions scientists have, wow the world with how you figured it out, then tell them it's AP? Things like that which haven't happened make me doubt it entirely and just like some guy above me said, we've tried with no luck so it's all probably B.S. If it's real then why doesn't the entire planet know and why doesn't science genuinely look into it. Does seem like a bit of baloney even though of course I'd like to believe otherwise.

It happens all the time, but it's not AP. It's an altered state of conciousness. Many many scientists and celebrated thinkers report their epiphanies happened during a "dream". It also happens to me, but what's interesting is that I have a character that I talk to. A guide if you will. It's in a small pub. He is an old man and we have deep conversations. He tells me things about the universe and physics. What gravity is, what dark energy is and other things. I'm not a scientist and I havn't done calculus in 14 years, and I don't care to I have more intersting things to do with my life, so all it is to anyone else is meaninginless speculation. I can't even be sure if it's correct or not, and I'm not one to take things on faith not even from some brilliant spirit, nor does he expect me to. It's just conversation to satisfy my curiosity. The entities at the pub said I found my way to them to protect myself from my massive and endless dreams. I was begging for releif and received help a few times, but finally this was a more permenant solution. Now I can go there if I start dreaming all night again to pass the time. I used to spend weeks at a time in sagas of dreams in a single night. It was disrupting my life because during the day all I could think about was what happned the night before. I would even worry about people I had met in the dreams because they were very real to me. Lovers, friends, children you name it. In many ways I have lived through a number of lives but in some very exotic scenerios and plots. It still happens if I let it, but I have got to many kids and a business to run to become lost in the infinite universe of the dream world. I'm sure I sound bat **** crazy to most people reading this, but I'm not the only one. Jung used to consult with archetypes, and one of the greatest mathematicians of all time got his information from the Hindu goddess nimagria (or something like that) in dreams as well. I think it was that one or Shiva maybe.

BS.... No not a chance. Weather one thinks there is a deep spiritual element to it, just the power of the brain, or both is really and individual choice. Sceince is not equipped to undertand it because inside the mind is pure subjective exsperience which is very hard to quantify and measure. Someday maybe. Check out the link.

http://www.famousscientists.org/7-great-examples-of-scientific-discoveries-made-in-dreams/

Edited December 10, 2015 by White Crane Feather

[White Crane Feather]

If you want to believe it's real, then it's real.

Human reality is purely subjective. Ultimate reality is not. But this is not a debate thread.

Edited December 10, 2015 by White Crane Feather

[White Crane Feather]

Very very not to old why?

I like to help where I can, but I like to know if I'm talking to a teenager or not.