Dash-- Posted August 28, 2012 #401 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Some sources for you to investigate: Textual Criticism: Argument from context: Mason, Wells et al. See 8, from Early Christian Writings (ECW). Poietes - sources summarised here, plus some examples of Eusebius using the phrase. Also, see 10 and 11 from ECW. Josephus as a priest - The life of Flavious Josephus (written by Josephus). For example: 15 I was now about the thirtieth year of my age; .......and as to what presents were offered me, I despised them, as not standing in need of them. Nor indeed would I take those tithes, which were due to me as a priest, from those that brought them. Conspiracy: I'm having difficulty finding an internet source for the differing position of the Testimonium over time. A crude example, however, would be that Eusibius claims that it is after the passage with John - see ECW 5. Various Christian Insertions into Jewish War (including the Testimonium) - here. Tiggs.This may help.Not sure.ECW has got alot of info on Josephus,maybe this will add a lil more.Maybe not.http://www.textexcavation.com/josephustestimonium.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Masada Posted September 1, 2012 Author #402 Share Posted September 1, 2012 "Jésus ? murmura-t-il, Jésus, de Nazareth ? Je ne me rappelle pas." Ben, that's the trick-ending climax of a famous fictional short story, "The Procurator of Judea" by Anatole France: http://members.multi...rancejudea.html It is perfectly fine that a historian would discuss fiction in order to contrast it with actual events and what is reasonable to infer about them. It is inconceivable, however, that a professional historian like McManners would confuse a famous short story with a historical source document. Oh well. I guess McManners takes his place alongside Sagan and Dostoevsky as famous dead writers whose works you have rewritten here. I am sure he's flattered. McManners was/is a Catholic Scholar. Would he endanger Jesus' existence with a fiction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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